i've always felt like inter-brand matches on free tv were hotshotting and therefore not that appealing. even though there are plenty of arguments against the original brand split, at least those encounters meant something when they happened
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When the original brand split took place, crossover matches only happened at wrestlemania, and they felt really special.

royal rumbles were pretty great in those days, too...


seems weird how they started doing supershows, dissolved the split, resplit the rosters and are doing it all over again


if they want the champ on both shows, unify the belts again. i actually didn't even mind it when they did the first draft and hogan and trish could go wherever

Roman Reigns appearing on both shows is the best thing they can do to help that show. The roster split always leaves someone behind. It has to.

Last time they brought the rosters together they kept the WWE and World Heavyweight Titles separate for about two years after the fact.

I didn't appreciate how the World Heavyweight Championship played second fiddle to the WWE Championship during that era. They've done a much better job with the Universal Championship, even considering some of the terrible booking decisions.

The WWE Championship is now basically what the World Heavyweight Title was. The belt held by Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns is always going to feel more important.

When commentary is a detriment. Jericho needs to go.

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It was in a similar position during Triple H's reign of terror. It has the "prestige" behind it to persist through the years.

Actually a fair point. I wish there was just one though, because you can only truly have one “top guy.”

Hot take: Chris Jericho has been the drizzling shits for the past five years, and his entire career trajectory since hooking himself to Kevin Owens has been to find roles where he can mask his alcoholism by playing to a converted choir.

It’s sad. I’d always love classic Chris Jericho. He did great things for Tazz Dan. But he’s a washed up hack who needs wrestling and knows enough of the words to get fans he earned in yesteryear to ignore his declining talent and obnoxious neediness for any sort of relevancy.

I genuinely hope his story doesn’t end in tragedy. He’s gone through a lot of shit, losing friends, peers, injuries, brushes with true fame that never amounted to anything sustainable. Great artists, and Jericho was one, find clever way of masking their issues so they can indulge while seemingly being in control. I’ve got a spooky feeling from Jericho for a long time. I think it was when his weight gain started and he tried to pass it off as him wanting to be a heel in Japan. He hasn’t worked there since. It was a lie. And he went from being a classically minded pro-wrestler who didn’t even want merchandise as a heel to being a sap that will market anything and everything he can. And I think he tries to pass it off as a gimmick (“Everyone I ever loved, I pushed them all away”), but I think he’s in way worse emotional shape than people realize. Dude was drinking most of a bottle of vodka during some of his drunken podcasts.

To think of how active his lifestyle must actually be — training for wrestling but also performing on stage when he does it. And he’s still gained so much weight and lost so much physical control of who he is, to the point he is actually ashamed of it. Look at photos of him sucking in his gut as he poses with women half his age. And look at how he tweeted that photo of him in response to the NBA lead-in backlash. If he didn’t care, he wouldn’t go out of his way to try and pass himself off as an Adonis still.

It can be so easy to put up the blinders when you respect and admire someone’s work so much. But the evidence that this dude has lost it has been there for a long time, and all his energy goes into convincing people he’s still a genius so you should just trust him instead of actually getting the human being behind the performer help.

I don't think WWE would ever give a non-wrestler the headliner spot in a HOF ceremony but if they ever did, it'd be hard to argue against Paul Heyman being the guy to get it.

While I still enjoy his work, I'm saddened by his progression. He certainly needs an intervention but it seems like people are gladly enabling his tendencies. This is beyond his politics or his ability to handle fair criticism.

I hope this is real because that was hilarious

How come AEW never talks about the 18-34 demo, and only the 18-49 demo? Maybe Raw beats AEW in the 18-34 demo, which seems to go against that theory of AEW drawing a younger audience maybe???

Pretty sure AEW beat Raw 18-34 as well.

So... maybe not.

Lmaoooo

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Was expecting this video to be a few hours long. :rofl: Hogan has talked so much shit over the years pretty much all of which has been debunked, embarrassing.

I thought about posting that clip after hearing it. That was the hardest I’ve laughed listening to a Cornette podcast in a long time. The Harley Race story had me in tears. It was so bizarrely nonsensical.

It really is baffling to me why Hogan is such a pathalogical liar, he just constantly spouts a load of shit then when called out on it claims he was misquoted. He even claims he was present when the Undertaker character was given to Mark Calloway but Calloways version of events are totally different to Hogans nonsensical waffle.

He just seems to want to keep himself relevant even if it's at the expense of constantly rewriting history that these days is easily fact checked and makes him look more of an ass. He inserts himself into situations he wasn't present for ( as seen above) and seemingly ALWAYS has a different "recollection" of events to everyone else. I'm amazed he hasn't claimed he slammed an 800lb Andre in WCW after forming DX.

It's got to a point where nomatter what he says you just have to assume it's either a lie or has been "revised" heavily so it somehow comes out in his favour if it's a story. It's pretty sad at this point, a 68 year old man constantly revising history to his favour when anyone can google what he says and the bullshit klaxon sounds loudly with the results.

Sorry, miswrote my take pretty badly! Meant to make the point that AEW only cares about the 18-34 demo when it is convenient since they dont win that one typically. The bragging about the young adult demo (18-49) but not bragging about the even younger demo is cherry picking at it's finest.

That is the demo Raw got hit hardest by MNF, 18-34.

Why WOULD they “brag” about a demo they don’t win?

They (or the wrestling journalist) hype the areas that they succeed in. Like every company in the world.

It’s still spin. People are allowed to point out the logic in bragging about that sort of thing and calling it a “win.”

Always felt it was very illogical in sports when teams celebrate scoring but conveniently DON’T celebrate when the other team scores.

Not an accurate comparison. It’s like kicking in a field goal in the first half and acting like you’ve won the game.

So many things can be said about the ratings. From them being archaic and inaccurate, to the further diversity of the audiences — in terms of both demographics and scope. Bragging about getting a 0.44 in an arbitrary age group that most people don’t even pay attention to in 2021 is honestly more being a mark for the Observer than anything.

The thing is he doesn't even have to lie about things like that. He's one of the biggest stars in the business and has lived a long and interesting life with the adoration of fans who will excuse all of his shortcomings no matter what. You'd think that'd be enough.

You are absolutely right, they wouldnt, but they do use the 18-49 demo to support the narrative that they have a younger audience. Its fine, but its just not entirely true.

Apparently not, just has to trot out more fabricated stories people can roll their eyes at. :-\ I'm eagerly awaiting the tale of him gorilla pressing a 2000lb Yokozuna with one hand. About the only real heavy wrestler he never actually slammed as nobody that did it ever really came close to making it look like a slam, so much girth and weight involved their arms weren't long enough to do it properly.

WHY IM A LEGEND

Someone chatting to Stu. Stu says, “my son Owen is the 2nd best high flyer in the world, the only one who can touch him is (this is the other part I can’t remember, it was a Japanese wrestler)”.

The guys looked a bit puzzled and said “Well, Stu, forgotten wrestler retired 15 years ago”.

Stu looked at them expressionless for a few moments. He then said “my son Owen is the best high flyer in the world, no one can touch him”

raw bounced up from last week's 1.67 million. This week saw 1.79 million viewers.

So today I learned that John Tenta used Jericho's "Evenflow" theme before Jericho did

It’s like Pat Tanaka using Goldberg’s theme first. Not quite as menacing.

Former TPWW poster Fourfifty making an appearance.


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At the same time, though, every bitch and their brother used "Satan's Sister" before AND after them in WCW, since that was apparently near the top of the list to cue up, but everyone remembers it as the theme of The Hollywood Blondes.

Being fair, his whoppers have also benefitted him, such as his GAWKER lawsuit where he claimed Hulk Hogan's dick was bigger than Terry Bollea's.

I wonder, though, if there's something legitimately wrong with him. I mean, some actual mental deterioration. I say that because some of these stories he's told ages ago, or have been rumored or alleged, but they haven't been nearly stretched and fabricated to the point where they are now. Things he's heard about turned into events he's witnessed firsthand. Documented things he has done have progressively gotten grander and grander with the passage of time not merely because he's a habitual liar, but because there is some sort of illness or debilitation that makes him actually believe it happened that way now.

Or maybe he's trying to spin some real-life yarn and hoping to be understood by his family like the movie Big Fish. Though, at this point, it wouldn't surprise me if Hogan said he wrote that script.

Wouldn't surprise me if there was some deteoration there, but i think it's more down to him just being a habitual liar. Back in the 70's 80's and 90's you could say almost anything and get away with it as fact checking was much harder, these days with the internet you can debunk something in seconds. Hogan has just been in the habit of exagerrating and lying for decades so it's literally a kneejerk thing for him to do, it's like the lie passes his lips before he even considers the question.

So naturally these days people can look something up that he claims and come to a conclusion about it pretty quick. It's like he's clueless about how quick people can look things up and he still thinks its 1984.

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It takes Hogan an hour and a half to stand up straight, apparently. I just envisaage him hulking up numerous times in that time period and failing repeatedly, falling down and selling the back whilst shouting "NOO BROTHERRRR".

According to Superstar Billy Graham & his wife, he is currently hospitalized due to him suffering recent heart and lung related health issues.