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slik 07-14-2021 03:59 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE has been fighting the fans and insisting they are dumb &amp; wrong for so many years that not only do they have talent that buy into it, but now there are fans who are like &quot;yes fans are dumb and wrong for not liking the shows, we must do better and accept bad shows, sorry Vince&quot;</p>&mdash; Voices of Wrestling (@voiceswrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1415192111947845636?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drew &amp; Jinder are feuding over a stolen sword. AJ &amp; The Viking Raiders are feuding because AJ says &quot;vikings are stinky&quot;. Doudrop gave Alexa a Samoan Drop and Alexa magically disappeared into thin air. Miz &amp; Morrison start fights by squirting water in peoples faces.</p>&mdash; Voices of Wrestling (@voiceswrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1415211151726727169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What the hell is Matt Riddle supposed to be? A child? A really stupid adult? Has anyone on the 137 person writing team ever met an actual stoner?</p>&mdash; Voices of Wrestling (@voiceswrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1415209085335744512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After spending much of the day re-watching the Paul Orndorff/Hulk Hogan feud, it's hard to believe that modern Monday Night RAW is a descendant of that promotion. It feels much more like the natural progression of TNA at it's worst or GLOW.</p>&mdash; Voices of Wrestling (@voiceswrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1415217318372708353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 07-14-2021 07:16 AM

:lol::lol::lol:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The narrative of blaming WWE for everything is getting old, it’s time y’all hold the fans accountable for the shit they do</p>&mdash; (11-5)⚔️⚔️ AFC SOUTH CHAMPIONS (@TitansForever) <a href="https://twitter.com/TitansForever/status/1415152798648446980?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This comment is the ultimate wrestling dystopia</p>&mdash; ɔɯpɐ (@NotMcAllister_) <a href="https://twitter.com/NotMcAllister_/status/1415245500706607108?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You want them shot or something?</p>&mdash; SoDuTw (@SoDuTw) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1415220783715131393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yer it was annoying when the fans formed the hurt business and broke them up while they were mega over.<br><br>And when that fan pinned The Undertaker to break the streak.<br><br>Damn fans.</p>&mdash; Only Connect Wrestling (@OCWQuizzes) <a href="https://twitter.com/OCWQuizzes/status/1415198275272122370?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE has spent the past however many years being combative with its own audience and trying to tell them they are wrong. They have cultivated the atmosphere that we have now, so yes, I blame WWE.</p>&mdash; Agent37 (@Agent_of_Spyral) <a href="https://twitter.com/Agent_of_Spyral/status/1415192727852044288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 07-14-2021 03:50 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">you as a grown adult paying $800 to get a 30 year old woman to act like shes 12 and invite you to her playground needs to put you on a fucking government list immediately <a href="https://t.co/cua7L8srIJ">pic.twitter.com/cua7L8srIJ</a></p>&mdash; kj, the boss baby (@notKHRIS) <a href="https://twitter.com/notKHRIS/status/1415342374360961030?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damian Rey 2.0 07-14-2021 03:54 PM

Lmaooo yes let’s blame the fans. Sound logic.

#1-norm-fan 07-14-2021 04:59 PM

Lol Im pretty sure Destor is part of the “blame the fans” crowd based on past conversations. He’d be a good person to grill about that logic.

Noid 07-14-2021 05:31 PM

If WWE listened to fans, indie darlings like Kyle O'Reilly and Cesaro would be multi time champions. There's a reason they do not heed the masses.

Bad News Gertner 07-14-2021 07:19 PM

AEW "listens to the fans" and that's why their numbers are stagnant. They cater to their fans.

Fucking Zack Ryder would be 5x world champ if the WWE did that.

#1-norm-fan 07-14-2021 07:53 PM

WWE does listen to fans. They just half-ass it. And that’s why their numbers are falling. Kofi Kingston is a former world champion.

I’d respect them more if they just committed to saying “Fuck the hardcores. We’re focusing on mainstream appeal.”

Instead they try to appeal to everyone at any given time and it ends up appealing to no one.

Noid 07-14-2021 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5464272)
AEW "listens to the fans" and that's why their numbers are stagnant. They cater to their fans.

Fucking Zack Ryder would be 5x world champ if the WWE did that.

I'd rather sit through 10 Triple H reigns of terror.

Noid 07-14-2021 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5464276)
WWE does listen to fans. They just half-ass it. And that’s why their numbers are falling. Kofi Kingston is a former world champion.

I’d respect them more if they just committed to saying “Fuck the hardcores. We’re focusing on mainstream appeal.”

Instead they try to appeal to everyone at any given time and it ends up appealing to no one.


Kofi's ascension wasn't entirely organic. Fans weren't clamoring for a Kofi Kingston title run until he was chosen to replace Ali in the elimination chamber match. The push began in February and culminated in April when he won the belt. It's not even in the same league as that of Daniel Bryan's rise. There was no sustained uproar after Kingston lost the title to Brock. The fans like to pretend that they care. It was merely a business decision for an obvious reason. Just like the smackdown women's championship match at this year's Wrestlemania event.

slik 07-15-2021 04:39 AM

I think this is pretty true, no wrestling fan wants WWE to put on a bad show and it's generally frustrating they've been so all over the place for the last decade.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nobody hates WWE. If it was actually good, fans would give them their praise. <br><br>They’re just at their lowest point so it gets sh!tted on</p>&mdash; The Real One ☄️ (@WWEREALONE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEREALONE/status/1415011057635151880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 07-15-2021 06:35 AM

Welcome to about 5 years ago. Fans say that and they want to see themselves as honest, but the truth is they have really fucked up ideas about what works and doesn’t work. They still have markish responses to the product that they think they are smarter than, and they react as contrarians to a lot of shit.

It doesn’t absolve WWE if their more egregious shit. They’re largely responsible for this climate, where voices that just want to enjoy wrestling are drowned out by people who think that their opinions are good or developed enough to warrant being heard. They ran off normal fans. But fans are not these unbiased arbiters of quality either. They will choose Zack Ryder over John Cena like it’s a good idea. They will lie about how over something is or isn’t. They want a product for their obsessive ego. You kind of have to move past that fan and the people in that circle who empower these really zonkers dispositions.

drave 07-15-2021 12:04 PM

Virgil created the NWO guys....
 
Quote:

Former WWE Million Dollar Champion Virgil was on today’s episode of The Wrestling Inc. Daily. WWE recently celebrated the 25th anniversary of the nWo, and Virgil explained to Wrestling Inc. Managing Editor Nick Hausman his role in the iconic faction.


“I think I made Hulk Hogan’s whole career,” Virgil expressed. “Ted Turner and I put together the nWo. I got paid all day. I was like a moving reindeer. It was Too Sweet Meatsauce week. Olive Garden gave me a special order with Eric Bischoff because they love me that much. They put out a restraining order on Eric Bischoff because he followed me to Olive Garden. I guess he wanted a bunch more meatsauce or something. He’s obsessed with me because I’m the Meatsauce King.”


Virgil continued, “I was the original member coming in. It was Hulk, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Ted DiBiase, myself and X-Pac.”


Before joining WCW, Virgil spent nearly a decade in the WWF. He revealed a move that a future WWE Hall of Famer would be known for throughout their career.


“I kicked Alex Wright’s ass in a dance off in a parking garage, and I put my foot up in his ass,” Virgil recalled. “He was talking s**t like he could out dance me. I had the dance off, and I shoved my foot up his ass. I invented the dance called the Spinaroonee. Disco Inferno had a spin off. He spun on the ground like a donkey, and then I spanked his ass.”


Virgil then went on to talk about his new mobile game “Meatsauce Madness”. Discussing what fans can expect from the game.


“I’m the prototype. I played it for hours,” Virgil said. “I went into a food coma playing. I went to Olive Garden playing it.


Fans can expect all of it when you guzzle the beef. I think you might have been guzzling some beef. Look at you. [Virgil does a horse impression]. I guzzled so much I got garlic nipples. I’m a unicorn. All the game is my favorite part, from the platform to the end. I love it all.”

it's a real game Meatsauce Madness

Fignuts 07-15-2021 01:47 PM

lol amazing

drave 07-15-2021 02:12 PM

What's amazing is the fookin meatsauce! MOAR SAUCE!

Evil Vito 07-15-2021 02:52 PM

There's still loads of tickets for the MSG SmackDown, which is actually being billed as a "SuperShow" with Raw.

I would normally laugh at the Garden not being an instant sellout but just looking at the obscene prices it's not particularly surprising.

slik 07-15-2021 05:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW beating Raw in the 18-49 is a big deal for them. I hope it lights a fire under WWE, because now is the time.</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1415773169797959682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

#1-norm-fan 07-15-2021 05:24 PM

People can make all the excuses they want but any wrestling show outdrawing WWE in any demo on any night of the week is a testament to how badly WWE has sat on the ball and butchered their monopoly on the business. They should be so far ahead that this shouldn’t even be a discussion.

People who say AEW viewers are a niche audience whose only fans are the nerdiest of wrestling nerds are exactly right... And that’s why WWE should be embarrassed. They won a war and then took 20 years off and it’s showing.

slik 07-15-2021 05:37 PM

O
M
G

Plans have apparently changed big time for SummerSlam

SPOILER: show


Lashley vs Goldberg


Noid 07-15-2021 06:05 PM

98 years

Damian Rey 2.0 07-15-2021 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5464522)
O
M
G

Plans have apparently changed big time for SummerSlam

SPOILER: show


Lashley vs Goldberg


And to think I was mildly interested in a Lashley match at summer slam. Yawn.

Gerard 07-15-2021 06:14 PM

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:eek:

Damian Rey 2.0 07-15-2021 07:17 PM

I love the promo even though no way it flies under the radar today

Noid 07-15-2021 07:35 PM

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Damian Rey 2.0 07-15-2021 08:03 PM

The Rock selling that clothesline like he was shot out of a cannon

Bad News Gertner 07-15-2021 08:22 PM

Coach was a great character

Damian Rey 2.0 07-15-2021 08:48 PM

He really was. I loved his rivalry with the Rock. Coach was perfect as the constantly failing foil.

Bad News Gertner 07-15-2021 09:40 PM

Loved him with Bischoff

slik 07-15-2021 09:53 PM

Coach was the sports anchor on my local ABC station before WWE and I remember being really shocked when WWE hired him bc he was really bland...but then he had so much more personality in WWE than he ever did doing local sports.

Evil Vito 07-16-2021 07:30 AM

Wrestling Twitter: talk themselves into the final MITB participant being Becky, Sasha, or Sonya

WWE:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The field for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MITB?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MITB</a> Ladder Match is now set! WWE Women’s Tag Team Champion <a href="https://twitter.com/TaminaSnuka?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TaminaSnuka</a> will take part in the action this Sunday!<br><br>�� <a href="https://t.co/2c4ZQANWpm">https://t.co/2c4ZQANWpm</a> <a href="https://t.co/xsaV4BmUri">pic.twitter.com/xsaV4BmUri</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1415785198357254145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

screech 07-16-2021 07:42 AM

Admittedly I've only watched SD since Mania so I have no idea what's happening on RAW or NXT right now. But who besides Asuka could believably win that?

screech 07-16-2021 07:43 AM

I guess it doesn't have to be believable. But a lot of times with these matches I think "there's no way this person is winning."

With that lineup I can say that about almost all of them lol

DAMN iNATOR 07-16-2021 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5464581)
Admittedly I've only watched SD since Mania so I have no idea what's happening on RAW or NXT right now. But who besides Asuka could believably win that?

Carmella, Liv Morgan, Alexa, Nikki A.S.H. ("Almost a Super Hero"...yeah, I don't know why they're doing the gimmick either but she's been on a win streak for a while now, so...).

Evil Vito 07-16-2021 09:05 AM

Given her gimmick, Alexa Bliss should be able to hypnotize everyone and win the match effortlessly but that won’t happen because reasons.

slik 07-16-2021 10:00 AM

First look at new SD set, looks like it will be a big tron, ala WM35, but arena-sized


https://i.postimg.cc/43Sm1XFm/06WNSdwL.jpg

Evil Vito 07-16-2021 10:45 AM

Goldberg is now the age Terry Funk was when he was a crazy old man in 1998. Bobby Lashley is the same age Bob Backlund was when he was a crazy old man in 1995.

slik 07-16-2021 10:47 AM

I wonder what happened here

No reschedule date and Georgia is (obviously) a very good market for wrestling


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SHOW UPDATE: <br><br>WWE Friday Night Smackdown on September 17th will no longer take place in Atlanta. Refunds are available at all points of purchase.<a href="https://t.co/MOXb9O2WeX">https://t.co/MOXb9O2WeX</a> <a href="https://t.co/kXqdKTfrnz">pic.twitter.com/kXqdKTfrnz</a></p>&mdash; State Farm Arena (@StateFarmArena) <a href="https://twitter.com/StateFarmArena/status/1416021257829617664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 07-16-2021 11:11 AM

USA Network...hmmm

Chucky going to do some promo work on RAW perhaps?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Halloween Season is going to be very, very special this year. CHUCKY premieres on October 12! <a href="https://t.co/RSvPC4LLHv">pic.twitter.com/RSvPC4LLHv</a></p>&mdash; John Squires (@FreddyInSpace) <a href="https://twitter.com/FreddyInSpace/status/1416041439298035717?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 07-16-2021 11:39 AM

RAW being down 35% overall and 44% in 18-49 *should* be alarming to WWE...


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Covid isn't completely gone but the lack of wrestling events with live audiences seems to come to an end tonight with WWE Smackdown before ~14,000 tonight in Houston.<br><br>Thanks for supporting <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@wrestlenomics</a> these last 17 months. Here's how viewership trends have been: <a href="https://t.co/gGk6MaUIuw">pic.twitter.com/gGk6MaUIuw</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1416053902051618817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

erickman 07-16-2021 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5464592)
I wonder what happened here

No reschedule date and Georgia is (obviously) a very good market for wrestling


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SHOW UPDATE: <br><br>WWE Friday Night Smackdown on September 17th will no longer take place in Atlanta. Refunds are available at all points of purchase.<a href="https://t.co/MOXb9O2WeX">https://t.co/MOXb9O2WeX</a> <a href="https://t.co/kXqdKTfrnz">pic.twitter.com/kXqdKTfrnz</a></p>&mdash; State Farm Arena (@StateFarmArena) <a href="https://twitter.com/StateFarmArena/status/1416021257829617664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

can't even sell out smackdown in atlanta that is bad


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