Excited to see where it goes.

DADDY!!!!! I NEED NEW TOYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
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That would be a start.

FTR vs. Adam & Christian has potential, but I don’t trust AEW.

You know we'll just end up with E&C vs The Hardyz vs probably Team 3D from Impact in an exploding death ladder match.

I’d love that.

By the time it gets to ring it’s Edge & Christian vs. Matt Hardy & Isiah Kassidy vs. Bully Ray & Scorpio Sky because it’s just a series of disasters.

Lol, Wikipedia already says AEW has signed Edge and he’s competing under his real name. They’ve got it wrong. He’ll be wrestling under his pre-WWE name…Damon Striker!

It will be hilarious if Edge doesn’t sign.

Assuming Noid's post has to do with Adam Copeland and how he should work in NXT or TNA instead of ghey AEW

Hey we shortened that term at the board meeting last night. It's just GheyEW now. Maybe you'd know these things if you bothered to grace us with your presence from time to time.

Lol, weren’t they going to block me for the good of themselves and everyone? Please hurry the process along.

AEW’s top individual merchandise mover in the month of September was…

CM Punk.

So Collision only got like 350k against No Mercy, what are they going to get against Fastlane? :rofl:

lol FTR got straight squashed tonight by Starks and Big Bill

Collision is dead.

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Looks like he's in great shape.

Not to mention 7 foot tall.... AND YOU CAN'T TEACH THAT

What if WWE came up with a, "What if..." series like Marvel? lol....I'd pay good money.

Dave Meltzer admitted that AEW is cold. Edge didn’t help ticket sales for Collision at all.

Remember when I said people were not going to care about going to Collision or watch it because of there being college football on and no one giving a crap about watching wrestling on a prime time slot for college football or where people would rather go out to a bar or the movies??

I mean, they basically rewrite their own history ever few years anyways, that is kind of like "What If" :rofl:

Wow, lucky we’ve got you saying these things. I think you might be the only one. Is college football a factor on Wednesdays? Because it’s happening on Wednesdays too. Plus, numbers actually suggest it’s WWE that cuts into them more.

AEW just isn’t very good. The button-mashing worked for a while, but now it’s starting to get punished for it.

Hahahaha Tonyyyyyy. Love it.

(dammit, I have a template for this on my phone, but not here... so I need to improvise poorly)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Sir Vince McMahon said this, it would be the least of his alleged misdeeds. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWTitleTuesday?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWTitleTuesday</a> on TBS<br>Tuesday <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> Tonight!</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1711599850905911787?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Alvarez has given TK the hint to stop spurting off on social media. Nick Hausman reported that CM Punk’s camp has reached out to them and are like “This is why the guy is happy to be out of that shithole.”

Thunder Rosa wants out of AEW, to the surprise of no one.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Maybe we’ll just say the names of talent that wish they could be getting paid as much to be anywhere else?

Edge

lol Edge and Ricky Starks drama now. Womp.

It’s a good thing Tony Khan is there to lead.

Wait, drama is a good thing according to him, right?

You knew it was going to go poorly, but maybe just not so fast. Usually the talent tries to wait a month before they start sabotaging the show around the veterans.

So if I read correctly, Ricky Starks said Edge has bug eyes, and Edge got pissed and called him a vanilla midget ripoff of The Rock.

He is totally there to give back to the business it seems! LOL

I’m on Edge’s side on this. He’s coming in to work with a bunch of green guys and help and (hopefully) their shows out so they don’t go extinct (I know, ironic for a fossil to do). You go over a plan, likely for your mate’s creative. Danielson’s pushing this guy even though everyone is pretty sure he’s leaving. That guy goes off the plan to actively throw the segment out and get themselves over at the expense of the guys who are going to be, ideally for him, putting him over. Fuck him.

It’s Adam Page all over again. But hey, at least this is another news story.

I dunno, Edge is kind of ass.

I feel like calling it drama is overblowing it. Tons of people on Twitter talking like it’s a fact that there’s legit heat between them now yet literally nobody credible has indicated there is. It’s very easy to just tweet a rumor and add “-Dave Meltzer” or whatever to the end of it because the guy is never gonna bother to respond to every single fake rumor attributed to him.

I think it’s clear Edge wasn’t expecting the insult, and that’s not a surprise given he’s gotta adjust to an environment where promos are a lot more unscripted and free flowing. So he shot back since he felt it’s what his character should do. It came across as a bit awkward and hopefully he and Starks can sort shit out for their next promo if there is one but I think that’s about it.

If Edge actually got mad at an insult as tame as big-eyed then he’s being a bit of a bitch tbh. But I don’t think that’s the case here.

My biggest issue with it was just that it came across awkward and didn’t really achieve anything other than two guys insulting each other and basically telling each other they suck. Ok, so then if they fight, the winner just beat a guy who he told everyone sucks?

MJF’s best quality in his promos is no matter how vile and personal he gets with his insults, he always throws in some sort of acknowledgment that he knows how good his opponent really is. Never write the guy you’re gonna fight totally off as a bitch.

Yeah he is. But he’s not wrong if he’s frustrated about young talent ambushing him and going into business for themselves.

It’s the perception they’ve fostered. You expect talent to get at each other’s throats. And it’s literally how the Punk stuff started.

I can’t remember/don’t care where you stand on Meltzer, but just to make a hasty generalization: It is funny how people will report anything negative he says about WWE as gospel (Smeat style), but when it comes to potential bullshit in AEW, the company is still somehow getting the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe if he was so concerned about that he shouldn't have went to AEW to begin with. It is not some unknown industry secret that AEW is not exactly a professional workplace.

Agreed. It isn’t a surprise at this point. It is hilarious though. But that is where ego kicks in. I think everyone likes to think they are “above it.” Their experience, salary and stature in the business is supposed to carry some weight. But it’s so jarring how unprofessional the environment is.

William Regal couldn’t even make it a year.

Tony Khan also probably pleads and makes a lot of promises to these guys too.

I could understand the young talent being pissed at being called a vanilla midget by a hack who's never really cut a good promo in his career.

I'm being a bit hard on Edge here. I like him as a "wrassler." Has good matches and great charisma. But he's never been a great promo and isn't a draw. He shouldn't be "big dogging" the younger talent because he plainly isn't a good enough talker to do so.

:rofl::lol::rofl::lol::rofl::lol::rofl::lol:

I think you are being a little unfair on Edge here. I’m not his biggest fan, but I don’t think it’s fair to say he shouldn’t be big-dogging while Ricky Starks is there doing that (whether it’s out of ignorance or what).

Think I’m most amazed at is that Edge is surprised. It’s kind of what he signed up for.

People who work in a business fed by ego get mad with one of them calls the other one names.


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It’s how it creeps on air, spirals out of control and overshadows the product.

People say that it’s more interesting than the content, and while this is often intended as a “joke,” it is true and really is a problem for them lol.

My absence of social media hampers me from the nonsense.

The only place I see TK Tweets is here.

For all we know, they got to the back, had a talk about it, and quashed everything. But since Starks is almost certainly going North, and COPEland is a threat to the Elite, this is getting made into a bigger story than it is.

Well, a bigger story than it might be. This is AEW, so it’s possible the executives are gathering firewood and pitchforks.

I certainly doubt Edge has the temperament to hold a grudge ala CM Phil, nor do I think Ricky Starks was intentionally trying to goad Edge ala Hangman or the Bucks, but I still think Edge needs to maintain his composure better than he did. No reason to go right to the killshot of burying the guy because of a bug eyed comment.

:rofl::rofl::lol::lol::rofl::rofl::lol::lol:

Stop it with the annoying posts with those emoticons

Its honestly the worst trend on the board, ironic or otherwise

Starks may have not intended what was interpreted, but I can understand why it is frustrating for a veteran. And Starks is supposed to be one of the good ones!

It may not have been the comment itself. For all we know, Starks was explicitly told not to do it, or that idea in particular was knocked back for being juvenile. If it was impromptu, I totally understand why a babyface feels annoyed being put in the position of being a punk by a guy that you were intending to give the rub to later.

It's also true tho....


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It's kinda like The Rock and his "pain face" whenever he was in a submission hold, or even the one applying the submission hold. I get exaggerated expressions, but he'd yell out like HE was the one in the hold and it cracked me up.


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Or....

There was a small disagreement that was over after 5 seconds, a handshake, and an agreement to watch what they say.


Then Meltzer completely blows it out of proportion.

Sting is probably announcing the beginning of his retirement tour tonight. Hopefully they can find a way to get him in the ring with anyone left he might want to face, even if he's mostly just gonna do tag stuff until his final match.

My best guess is that he'll have his final tag match with Darby at Revolution 2024 (no date announced yet but March 3rd would track with recent years) and then his actual retirement match, presumably a singles match with Darby, on the March 20th Dynamite.

March 20th is Sting's 65th birthday, would allow him to headline a show on a Turner network which makes for a logical conclusion for him. And TK will hopefully do what he has to to let it be a commercial-free main event.

Insane how much he’s accomplished already.

:lol: fuck

65 though, god damn. glad he's had this last run

plot twist: Sting doesn't announce his retirement, instead just says he was thinking about diving off of a roof

It could be small or large. It’s AEW, so you know it’s going t be handled well by adults.

Lol, Jericho has gone out there and made an ass out of himself and AEW again re: ratings.

Jericho literally said what the Cultist said lol

It’s not doing them any good.

Another thing for Jericho to spin...

One of the weirdest things as a wrestler has to be performing in front of small crowds and pretending they are big. And it’s got to be hard as a wrestling fan to go to shows hardly anyone is at and pretend it’s hot shit.

Brock Anderson is reportedly gone from AEW. Add him to the list of guys with tons of potential that AEW has no clue how to develop. I think it’s pretty likely he goes to NXT and Arn ends up back in WWE, possibly being used to forward Cody’s “story.”

Brock Anderson does not have "tons of potential". He looks like a high school shop teacher.

Yeah, what a shame an Anderson looks like that.

You have to remember that Noid has fantasy booked both Val Venis and Doug Basham to win the world title so he's not the best judge of talent lol

As someone who is currently watching RAW's from 1998, Venis had the potential to be pushed to the moon...

So while I don't normally agree with him, A Val Venis world title run I would not have hated. He needed to be pushed in the 2004-2007 range, not when he was pushed.

Doug Basham though??? HARD PASS

Lol, didn’t your Paul Heyman faction have Test and Big Show in it?

Doug Basham was great. 2/3 Falls with Nick Dinsmore. Would get over 4.5 stars if it happened today. That whole OVW period was really good. Critically lauded but overlooked by many because a lot of the key players got lost to history.

Basham knew how to work and carry himself as a heel. Would add lots of great detail to what he was doing. If he was up against a jobber, for example, he would walk up to them and slap them with his left hand, which is cheeky as fuck because they’re not expecting it from that side.

That whole period is full of guys with really great bases. You don’t get that much these days. Most wrestlers can’t even throw a punch.

A lot of people also confuse what someone gets to show off with what they could potentially do. A 10-minute TV match was not “get your shit in” like today. And wrestlers back then were still calling it in the ring.

If Doug Basham had come up with the whole Revolution gimmick — Victoria or Nikita by his side as a valet, long hair, cool entrance, etc. — he could have at least been an IC or US Champion in the 2002-2004 period. Could have had a nice little feud with Ric Flair while he was doing the running Raw thing.

So it seems like no one cares, but AEW is doing a December 30 PPV called “Worlds End.” I don’t know which worlds are ending, but they’re putting it in the Nassau Colosseum. Isn’t that an infamously cold place for wrestling events? And they’re taking it to New York in winter around Christmas and New Year? Does this seem like a bad idea to anyone else?

Or is the hope that there will just be so many people local for Christmas that they can toss a net and half-fill the place?

They have been consistently running 10,000 seat arenas and only making about half the seats available, and most time they are only selling 3000-4000 of those tickets.

Tony needs to start paying people to go to AEW shows and pretend the product is cool.

He already does that

Sorry — he needs to pay *more* people to go to AEW shows.

The roster is big enough already

Good point. Plus it’s not like a lot of them wouldn’t blend right in.

Daniel Bryan orbital bone injury - legit?

Seems he’s going to require surgery.

I am going to say work based on the diagnosis.

Danielson got a broken orbital bone from an Orange Punch from a 150 pound guy, out the rest of the year.

Undertaker got a broken orbital bone from a 500+ pound guy landing on his face, just wore a opera mask and missed no time.

Maybe the orbital bone is a cover for his concussion.

It’s probably a number of things — age, severity, awareness. You just don’t want to see anymore careless injuries. People seem to be blaming Okada. I dunno if it should just be one of those “shit happens” things, but the company does put a lot of people in the line of fire because TK doesn’t really know what he’s doing.

This company can't catch a break. I've completely stopped watching AEW but its sad to read about their continued issues/decline.

On the plus side - WWE is better than it has been in years. Smackdown is must watch TV (although I do fast forward many of the matches).

Yeah I would believe that

Most of AEW’s issues are self-imposed. It’s hard to feel sorry for them.

Don't feel sorry for them as agreed it's their own doing (how do you fire your top star in favour of ones that don't draw?). More sad considering how much potential it had. Oh well :)

AEW as a concept had potential, but the execution has always wasted it.

Dave shared a quote from AEW talent about how the creative process in AEW has changed. They don’t find out as many things ahead of time anymore, and often it’s day of a show or the day before. It’s beginning to feel a lot like WWE.

Jerry Lynn then confirmed it was the case, but it’s done because they don’t want any of these precious plans being leaked. Which would make sense if that was ever the issue with AEW creative.

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Looks like Bryan may have a legit injury, but when it actually happened was before the angle on tv.

He probably got an injury in both. Then got injured drinking his morning coffee.