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weather vane 06-15-2021 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5459677)
I don’t have the energy for that anymore. I’d actually make Bryan Danielson the booker — as long as he doesn’t book himself into oblivion because he’s too selfless.

Lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

Evil Vito 06-16-2021 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5459641)
Former TNA announcer Don West has brain cancer

https://www.ringsidenews.com/2021/06...-brain-cancer/

Aw man, that fucking sucks. Hope he pulls through.

Evil Vito 06-17-2021 06:51 AM

Jonathan Barber, former CHIKARA ref, co-creator of Botchamania, copyright protection guy for a bunch of indies, and perhaps most notoriously the guy who edited Chris Benoit's Wikipedia entry prior to the official announcement of his death, has passed away.

slik 06-17-2021 11:15 AM

Interesting -- SD might have the most viewers a week but Raw has the most live viewers under 50. I expect AEW's number here to go up when they are back on Wednesday Nights.


Viewers 18-49:

RAW - 637k
SD - 623k
AEW - 244k
NXT - 240k


Credit for this info goes to Wrestlenomics/BrandonThurston

Bad News Gertner 06-17-2021 01:35 PM

R.I.P AEW

XL 06-17-2021 02:42 PM

“Must see TV” all round.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2021 05:19 PM

This is what I’ve been trying to say to AEW fanboys since the start. Just because they’re in an echo chamber where they talk to other people who validate what they say, it doesn’t make the narrative that AEW is “cool” true. It isn’t the hottest product, either in terms of overall viewership (which factors in children in the schoolyard), nor that allegedly “covered” 18-49 demo. There is no metric that AEW is besting WWE in. Not one. People are talking more, getting more excited for MONDAY NIGHT FUCKING RAW than they are Dynamite.

This whole 18-49 demo being coveted this is a largely mythologized metric by folks like Dave Meltzer to have something to talk about week-to-week so their business can stay alive. Dave doesn’t report the false numbers there (too much accountability), but he does focus on a simplistic overview that he preaches as some sort of golden ticket.

A chimpanzee could read a Showbuzz chart and buy advertising blocks according to that data. More complicated breakdowns, which Dave either ignores, doesn’t receive or doesn’t care to pay any mind to, reveal a lot more varied and less archaic details that can help advertisers make more informed opinions about different shows’ audiences:

-Their age is one factor.
-Their gender is another.
-Their sexuality is another.
-Their ethnic and cultural background is another.
-Their other viewing habits is another.
-Their disposable income is another.
-Their willingness to spend their income is another.
-WHAT they spend their income on is another.
-How consistent an audience is for that show is another.
-Is this the totality of the audience or is there a variation week-to-week?

This is common sense. All these factors run together to help determine how “valuable” audiences are. It’s why AEW is getting the boot for hockey, despite the NHL having a much smaller week-to-week audience. There are a number of factors:

-Wrestling fans might generally find themselves to be 45, living without disposable income, being interested in only video games and may not find themselves having much social influence. 80% of the audience might be week-to-week viewers.

-Hockey fans might be in their 30’s, have more disposable income, be interested in clothing and “lifestyle” products, and be more influential in their ability to propagate trends. 80% of that audience might be unique viewers catching specific games, as opposed to the total audience.

When wrestling fans, wrestling journalists and FUCKING WRESTLING COMPANIES THEMSELVES! Take these abstract demos and treat them like the holy grail, they ignore so much of the greater picture. Do advertisers even want to target 600k thousand people via cable television in the age of internet?

But for some reason wrestling — possibly because of faux competitive, macho nature — sees a show getting a higher number in one context and treats it like it’s dropping the elbow on the other companies. Woooo!

Lock Jaw 06-17-2021 06:47 PM

It's all part of a bigger picture... that you're too stupid to understand - Wade Barrett

slik 06-17-2021 09:50 PM

Roman vs Rey has been moved to SD instead of the HIAC PPV

Current HIAC card:

Drew vs Lashley (HIAC)
Alexa vs Shayna
Rhea vs Charlotte
Bianca vs Bayley


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING NEWS:<br>Per <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a>, it will be <a href="https://twitter.com/reymysterio?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@reymysterio</a> vs. <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERomanReigns?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWERomanReigns</a> w/ <a href="https://twitter.com/HeymanHustle?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HeymanHustle</a> for the Universal Title inside Hell in A Cell on tomorrow’s SmackDown on FOX! <a href="https://t.co/t9fIjR3jrm">pic.twitter.com/t9fIjR3jrm</a></p>&mdash; WWE on FOX (@WWEonFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEonFOX/status/1405701907599998981?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Supreme Olajuwon 06-17-2021 10:00 PM

That’s huge news for AEW. WWE clearly worried about losing viewers to the young upstart company.

Hope this leads to more exciting wrestling action!

GD 06-17-2021 10:21 PM

Probably Noid's best yet.

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Mr. Nerfect 06-18-2021 05:14 AM

SmackDown hot-shotting and probably going to drown AEW.

Mr. Nerfect 06-18-2021 07:13 AM

Lol, isn’t this going to be the same week AEW does Kenny Omega vs. Jungle Boy? So there’s going to be a lot of “top this” for the wannabe heel champion with the wannabe top manager and a way, way, greener underneath babyface.

slik 06-18-2021 09:35 PM

Sounds like Bray Wyatt might be in Drew's orbit soon

Savio 06-19-2021 10:36 AM

https://i.imgur.com/0rGpHyK.jpg


Happy Juneteenth yall!

Bad News Gertner 06-19-2021 11:02 AM

Let's celebrate Juneteenth with the greatest African American wrestler in history


https://ringthedamnbell.files.wordpr...8/09/akeem.gif

slik 06-20-2021 10:58 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well that was anti-climactic. Is it fair to say that nothing interesting is going to happen on WWE TV until the weekend of July 16?</p>&mdash; Raj Giri (@RajGiri_303) <a href="https://twitter.com/RajGiri_303/status/1406807856205111298?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes Raj

slik 06-21-2021 12:53 AM

Guessing Drew wins MITB to invalidate the no more title shots clause thing

Mr. Nerfect 06-21-2021 12:41 PM

Watching some of the old Nitro-era WCW stuff I’d forgotten about. It’s crazy how fresh eyes change things. I’ve always been a fan of William Regal, but his ring work as Lord Steven was just so many notches above his WWF/E work for quite a long time there. Regal would eventually get his feet warm, but for a while it didn’t feel like he meshed well in the E.

Lock Jaw 06-21-2021 01:21 PM

For some reason just fell in a YouTube hole watching clips of Rusev/Lana Russian gimmick... was so golden. (And the Russian national anthem is a sweet anthem)

They really missed out on giving Swagger the push over him... would have been better than his first loss going to John Cena.

slik 06-21-2021 01:22 PM

Reddit points out WWE Credit Card is not a good deal

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...e_credit_card/

Fignuts 06-21-2021 10:45 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bull Nakano was out here, biting people’s kneecaps. <a href="https://t.co/Y7eZcK2SXJ">pic.twitter.com/Y7eZcK2SXJ</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1407061957467856902?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner 06-21-2021 11:39 PM

That's outstanding

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wrestling peaked when Braun the Leprechaun bit Teddy Long and then Craig Pittman barked at him like a dog. <a href="https://t.co/QUVL5QBzLP">pic.twitter.com/QUVL5QBzLP</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1407152910094512129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fignuts 06-22-2021 12:20 AM

You know what I noticed about that Nakano clip? No one struggles to apply a hold anymore, unless it's a finisher. I miss that.

Mr. Nerfect 06-22-2021 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5460811)
You know what I noticed about that Nakano clip? No one struggles to apply a hold anymore, unless it's a finisher. I miss that.

There used to be an art to this.

DAMN iNATOR 06-22-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 5460364)
https://i.imgur.com/0rGpHyK.jpg


Happy Juneteenth yall!

https://culturewedge.files.wordpress...06/r-truth.jpg

Bad News Gertner 06-22-2021 03:44 PM

lol Holy shit


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If I told you someone attempted to run down the ramp &amp; hit a 2nd rope step-up 630 senton - you probably wouldn't believe me, right?<br><br>So here's the clip of <a href="https://twitter.com/vikingo_aaa?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@vikingo_aaa</a> doing it last night. <a href="https://t.co/K9UCXLKjP0">pic.twitter.com/K9UCXLKjP0</a></p>&mdash; Rob (@LuchaGifs) <a href="https://twitter.com/LuchaGifs/status/1406873258675380224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner 06-22-2021 07:17 PM

Has anyone ever watched this before. Vince losing his shit during the intros is fucking tremendous as are the skits.


slik 06-22-2021 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5460908)
Has anyone ever watched this before. Vince losing his shit during the intros is fucking tremendous as are the skits.



:lol:

slik 06-22-2021 08:32 PM

Give Kevin Dunn a few more years and the HIAC cage will be all CGI

Sepholio 06-22-2021 09:25 PM

Imagining wrestlers having to mime actually hitting the cgi cage walls, etc.

Such. Good. Shit.

Fignuts 06-22-2021 10:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ja" dir="ltr">突然ですが馬場さんです <a href="https://t.co/1Udv6ZZqeT">pic.twitter.com/1Udv6ZZqeT</a></p>&mdash; スコット北村ー��������(幼名やかもひ) (@powpowaoaoda) <a href="https://twitter.com/powpowaoaoda/status/1407316251299368969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DaveWadding 06-23-2021 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5460891)
lol Holy shit


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If I told you someone attempted to run down the ramp &amp; hit a 2nd rope step-up 630 senton - you probably wouldn't believe me, right?<br><br>So here's the clip of <a href="https://twitter.com/vikingo_aaa?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@vikingo_aaa</a> doing it last night. <a href="https://t.co/K9UCXLKjP0">pic.twitter.com/K9UCXLKjP0</a></p>&mdash; Rob (@LuchaGifs) <a href="https://twitter.com/LuchaGifs/status/1406873258675380224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is pretty much an average night in AAA Mexico. :lol:

#1-norm-fan 06-23-2021 01:53 PM

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slik 06-23-2021 07:58 PM

I'm surprised by this, I figured Samoa Joe would get them a bump

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE NXT last night on USA Network was watched by 665,000 viewers, the lowest yet in the Tuesday night slot. <br><br>224,000 viewers were aged 18-49 (about a 0.17 rating), down 9% vs last 4 wks. <br><br>61,000 were 18-34, up 20% from last week.<br><br>All data is kept here: <a href="https://t.co/a0cas6CU3n">https://t.co/a0cas6CU3n</a> <a href="https://t.co/sr9RGk0KkJ">pic.twitter.com/sr9RGk0KkJ</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1407839462369988619?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

erickman 06-23-2021 08:31 PM

was there basket ball last night that was where everyone was at

slik 06-24-2021 02:19 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Theatricality and grandiose entrances can be equally as important as what is going on in the ring when it comes to a characters presentation. This bare bones entrance does not do Kross any favors. <a href="https://t.co/Rx0f0d3G57">pic.twitter.com/Rx0f0d3G57</a></p>&mdash; Dick Van Klondike (@DickVanKlondike) <a href="https://twitter.com/DickVanKlondike/status/1408125727434813442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 06-24-2021 02:39 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">**WWE DRAFT WILL BE AUG 30th and SEPT 3RD**<br><br>I made a total bone head move and looked at the wrong month on my calendar! Sorry guys!</p>&mdash; Andrew Zarian (@AndrewZarian) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewZarian/status/1408130582882574337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

XL 06-24-2021 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5461074)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Theatricality and grandiose entrances can be equally as important as what is going on in the ring when it comes to a characters presentation. This bare bones entrance does not do Kross any favors. <a href="https://t.co/Rx0f0d3G57">pic.twitter.com/Rx0f0d3G57</a></p>&mdash; Dick Van Klondike (@DickVanKlondike) <a href="https://twitter.com/DickVanKlondike/status/1408125727434813442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is this on Main Event? Why wouldn’t they give him his normal OTT entrance?

slik 06-24-2021 03:11 PM

yeah, he and bronson reed both wrestled on main event


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