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KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron
the cause of death was caused by "instruments found at the scene"

which are, "very bizarre" and are "going to bring the whole wrestling world under scrutiny"

Whenever I read that, I can't help but see a mental image of Benoit bashing Nancy over the head with one of his title belts.

Death by belt shot would be a bizarre twist to all of this. :-\

Jeritron 06-26-2007 10:17 AM

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In response to that TMZ report....It's strange to think that such an awful thing could actually be a best case scenario...I don't even know what to say to all this. No matter how you slice it, the whole thing is just so terrible.
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CSL 06-26-2007 10:18 AM

From UKFF:

Keller's Audio Update

-He said it is being reported he suffocated his wife and son, perhaps a day apart. And then hung himself. Late Sunday night, he sent a strange text message to a person within the WWE. The police broke into the house at 2:30 pm today and found them in separate rooms.

-Vince called all the wrestlers backstage this afternoon for an emergency meeting. Wrestler were already bawling and crying. A longtime WWE wrestler said it was the most emotional state he's ever seen the wrestlers.

-There was a really uneasy feeling Sunday. Everybody felt something was wrong.

-One wrestler said "It was bound to happen". There was a strong suspicion backstage that Benoit did this right away. There was also a suspicion that Nancy had done it. They had a volatile relationship and everyone knew it.

-Hardly anybody backstage really knew Benoit. He had a very small inner circle that one time included Eddy Guerrero and recently included Chavo Guerrero. But even they had a certain psychological distance from Benoit. Everyone could tell that something wasn't right lately with Benoit.

-He said that he was a very nice and pleasant person to be around, but a person close to Benoit said that Chris had "snap potential".

-A lot of steroids were found in the Benoit household, and Benoit has had bouts with "roid rages". WWE may suffer publicly because of their unenforced "Wellness Policy".

<font color=white>Now I gotta admit, first thing I thought when I heard Benoit might have killed them was 'Can constant steroid abuse drive you this far?'

If so, and it turns out steroids could be related, my guess is pro wrestling could be in for a giant shitstorm.</font>

James Steele 06-26-2007 10:18 AM

God have mercy on Chris Benoit's soul.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 10:21 AM

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

St. Jimmy 06-26-2007 10:21 AM

I... your son? How could anyone do that...

CSL 06-26-2007 10:21 AM

<font color=white>Toxicology reports will be at 1pm EST apparently.</font>

Jeritron 06-26-2007 10:22 AM

I just want to know who killed who and how it all went down...

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 10:22 AM

:nono:

James Steele 06-26-2007 10:22 AM

I don't know if I'd believe that report by UKFF. It is just some british wrestling forum.

lort 06-26-2007 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron
"going to bring the whole wrestling world under scrutiny"

I can't really think of any possilibites that come to mind, that also would pend an autopsy....
I have suspicions, but I don't really want to venture guesses

Makes me think of Roid Rage personally.

311 06-26-2007 10:24 AM

I hate to say this at this point, in this thread, but anyone who took one look at Chris Benoit could tell he was on the juice.

James Steele 06-26-2007 10:24 AM

WWE goes to Congress!

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CSL
<font color=white>Toxicology reports will be at 1pm EST apparently.</font>

:wtf:

Toxicology usually takes a couple of weeks to be conducted.

I'm sure you've got it confused with the autopsy.

Jeritron 06-26-2007 10:25 AM

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There's only two things that are for sure at this point...

..this whole thing is a tragedy
and the real victim is an innocent 7yr old boy, regardless of how it happened and who killed who and what went down.
There's no good answer to all of this...
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Xero 06-26-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CSL
<font color=white>Now I gotta admit, first thing I thought when I heard Benoit might have killed them was 'Can constant steroid abuse drive you this far?'

If so, and it turns out steroids could be related, my guess is pro wrestling could be in for a giant shitstorm.</font>

Roid Rage was my first "Benoit Did It" thought...

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 311
I hate to say this at this point, in this thread, but anyone who took one look at Chris Benoit could tell he was on the juice.

Last night I thought to myself "I don't know how much of a juicer he was."

Then I looked at the cover of his DVD and thought, "Fuck." :(

Xero 06-26-2007 10:26 AM

Really, really terrible. :nono:

CSL 06-26-2007 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
:wtf:

Toxicology usually takes a couple of weeks to be conducted.

I'm sure you've got it confused with the autopsy.

<font color=white>Yeah, I was thinking that. Wrong wording me thinks.</font>

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 311
I hate to say this at this point, in this thread, but anyone who took one look at Chris Benoit could tell he was on the juice.

I don't think anyone has really denied that he was on the juice.

But hell roid rage caused him to murder his family? :-\

If anything I would've taken Scott Steiner to do some shit like that before anyone else.

FourFifty 06-26-2007 10:27 AM

I'm not sure if I just woke up or if I just went to sleep. I've cried until my eyes burned, then felt nothing at all. I had dreams that seemed like reality, and this reality seems like a bad dream.

311 06-26-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
I don't think anyone has really denied that he was on the juice.

But hell roid rage caused him to murder his family? :-\

If anything I would've taken Scott Steiner to do some shit like that before anyone else.

I agree with you. If this is true, however, it again shows how much we don't know, in a place where we all think we know everything.

CSL 06-26-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesSteele
I don't know if I'd believe that report by UKFF. It is just some british wrestling forum.

<font color=white>Whoever posted it lifted it from somewhere else, just doesn't mention where so I put UKFF.</font>

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FourFifty
I'm not sure if I just woke up or if I just went to sleep. I've cried until my eyes burned, then felt nothing at all. I had dreams that seemed like reality, and this reality seems like a bad dream.

I drank most of a bottle of whiskey last night, and cried so hard at times that I couldn't breathe. I have the hangover of my life right now.

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 311
I agree with you. If this is true, however, it again shows how much we don't know, in a place where we all think we know everything.

Just when we think we have all the answers, life changes the question.

FourFifty 06-26-2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious
I drank most of a bottle of whiskey last night, and cried so hard at times that I couldn't breathe. I have the hangover of my life right now.


.....Are you sure we're not the same person?

Jeritron 06-26-2007 10:36 AM

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It's strange to think that I was attending a TNA house show, joking about how much of a loose cannon Kurt Angle was and all that jazz, in a small room full of fans and well known wrestlers who knew Benoit and the family. And we were all sitting there enjoying wrestling, including my friend and I wondering who won the Punk/Benoit match.
And at the very time Benoit was in his house contemplating suicide with his dead family, unbenownst to all of us.

just a thought
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KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 10:37 AM

Life changes at a blink of an eye.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FourFifty
.....Are you sure we're not the same person?

I'm really not sure of anything right now.

Londoner 06-26-2007 10:39 AM

Its weird i havent shown much emotion for this..i understand in my head how sad it is but i guess im used to it after Eddies death now, though i am dissapointed, ive learnt how you get over this i think, or maybe it just hasn't sunk in for me yet. I dunno, just in a detached from emotions state atm.

Jeritron 06-26-2007 10:40 AM

true that DT.

At this point I just want to know what happened. I'll go from there. I haven't known what to think. When I saw the graphic and saw that Benoit had died, and saw Vince out of kayfabe in tears, I became momentarily grief stricken. I began to well up, but when I found out it was foul play of some kind I couldn't help but put aside the grief and be overcome with confusion and the demand for answers...
Either way it'll take a while to come to terms with this as a fan

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron
true that DT.

At this point I just want to know what happened. I'll go from there. I haven't known what to think. When I saw the graphic and saw that Benoit had died, and saw Vince out of kayfabe in tears, I became momentarily grief stricken. I began to well up, but when I found out it was foul play of some kind I couldn't help but put aside the grief and be overcome with confusion and the demand for answers...
Either way it'll take a while to come to terms with this as a fan

I was in a state of disbelief and confusion the second I saw "Chris Benoit and his family found dead."

I teared up for a second last night during Punk's speech, but that was it.

Jeritron 06-26-2007 10:45 AM

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Londoner 06-26-2007 10:47 AM

Same here, i found out the minute i woke up, literally.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 10:47 AM

I feel so sorry for Punk, as much as I don't care about him otherwise... he was probably backstage Sunday bitching about not getting to wrestle him and having to wrestle Nitro instead. Can we assume that Benoit was going to be given the ECW title Sunday?

James Steele 06-26-2007 10:48 AM

JBL and Tazz got me sniffling.

Jeritron 06-26-2007 10:49 AM

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CSL 06-26-2007 10:50 AM

Meltzer:

Dave@wrestlingobserver.com

The lack of an understandable explanation to the circumstances of the death of Chris, Nancy and Daniel Benoit has left virtually the entire wrestling community reeling.

Within WWE, the obvious questions and lack of answers are no different from fans and most of his long-time friends.

Vince McMahon was the inspiring general both to the wrestlers as well as the office staff all day yesterday. He held it together and was a rock of strength for much of the talent, which because of their admiration and in many cases love for Benoit, were saddened, perplexed and having an incredibly difficult time dealing with it.

Vince made the decision to run Smackdown and ECW tapings tonight without any angles or backstage storylines. The show will consist of straight wrestling matches and like last night, the original shows were scrapped. The attempt to put together a show was difficult because the crew and creative staff were said to be both emotionally and physically wrecked after yesterday.

The belief is they will brief viewers on what happened early in the show, and then product two low key shows of nothing but matches.

<font color=white>Makes sense.

Also, with all the bad things of the last 24 hours, we might at least see some stellar wrestling out of it :-\ </font>

Jeritron 06-26-2007 10:51 AM

I loved Joey Styles and Tazz's story about the car ride after the draft. They were talking about how they were marking out about getting to see Benoit compete on their show and getting to call it, and as a former wrestler and a longtime announcer they are both known to have a deep love for the business. It was just a true moment, especially when they said they had the talk during a car ride, which lovers of the business know of.

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious
I feel so sorry for Punk, as much as I don't care about him otherwise... he was probably backstage Sunday bitching about not getting to wrestle him and having to wrestle Nitro instead. Can we assume that Benoit was going to be given the ECW title Sunday?

I highly doubt he was bitching, in fact he was probably more worried about Benoit and his family than some wrestling match.

Punk has too much respect and admiration for Benoit not to.


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