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Finally figuring out part of what bugs me about the GL movie. Please compare Ryan Reynolds as Hal Jordan:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...MytEaD4zH70zWE With Ben Stiller as Furious in Mystery Men: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...kmTY5d4KQFhCug :'( |
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Just saying... Ben Stiller to me is like fingernails on a chalkboard.
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He's cool.
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I liked Mystery Men.
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And I hate his hair, too, but that's neither here nor there. |
With the mask on he looks a lot like a skinny Will Ferrell.
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Gotta agree with Fox on this one, the toes just kill it for me. I don't even know why..it just looks so fucking stupid. This is going to be awful.
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Never noticed the toes before. WTF that is just terrible. Conjure yourself up some real boots, man.
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I also hate his toes. If he is wearing clothes, his toes should be covered.
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You can see the outline of his belly-button in the first picture, too. That is just not superhero-ish or manly at all. Why can't we see the outline of his cock and balls while they're at it? I mean, at least keep continuity here. If you can see the exact outline of his toes, his belly-button, you should be able to see his dick and nuts.
This outfit just has faillure written all over it. How no one pointed out that this costume makes a good superhero look like a green homo erotic fairy and let it get all the way through production is beyond me. |
I mean, is there something WRONG with this costume?
http://images.wikia.com/mk/images/8/...en_Lantern.jpg Why not stick with what works and has worked for years and years? |
"Artist interpretation."
Sometimes it means something as cool as Batman's Dark Knight suit. And sometimes it Hal Jordan's skin suit. |
Making the suit all CGI was a gimmick from the get-go. Saying it's for any other reason is quite stupid.
They could have him doing the same mocap and actions in a basic suit with enhancements. So I think they made a suit of all CGI just to make a suit of all CGI as some kind of accomplishment. The only problem is it came out horrible, as many feared it would. Somewhere along the lines they should have realized it wasn't going to be any good. They can try to sell it with still frames all day, but anything in motion I've seen has been flat out bad. I hate to let bad effects ruin a good movie. The problem is, the movie looks as shit and shallow as the suit. I hope I'm wrong, but it's not looking good for GL. Oh well. |
Bad casting (at least for Hal), bad suit, story doesn't seem to serve the character...
Well I think we don't have to worry about Ryan being tied up for a sequel, he'll be totally free for Deadpool. WB will fail at GL and reboot it a few months after. Good luck to them. |
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I don't care about toes or hair; I just think the CGI suit concept is a bad idea that will not pan out for them. It will get shat on come review time.
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Also no one watches SNL anymore. |
If you just think it looks stupid, fine. But if something that will actually not be visible for probably 4/5 of the movie bothers you so that it "ruins" the whole film, you've got problems.
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I was just thinking about Spawn. Looking back on it, the CGI is obviously dated and looks shit, but the movie still does exactly what I think GL should have done.
Now you would be doing it with equal or greater practical effects, and far superior CGI and digital tools. And a bigger budget. It uses a practical suit, and effects to enhance it. The tangible suit looks amazing, and on top of that all kinds of special effects can be used to make the suit "living." It can transform, grow, show energy and all signs of being exactly what the GL suit is. I get that the suit is the power of the ring/pure energy, but it's still a suit. It was always depicted as such, and that's how it manifests itself on him. So to act like it's above being a suit is stupid. Especially when it comes to the mask. It's a Zorro mask. There is no reason to do that digitally other than to prove a point in going 100% CGI. As I said, that may be some goal, or maybe it's just a financial/laziness thing. Mixing practical and digital effects allows them to get exactly what they're still going for, but just looks boatloads better and lends a great deal to the movie. The same can be said for some other stuff I've seen. When GL uses his imagination to create some rocket-ship, or a giant fist and rock his opponents, that is where you use CGI. It's 100% called for an allows that aspect of the story to be possible. But when he imagines a gatling gun and laying down fire with that, why is that CGI? Wouldn't CGI be used for him materializing it, into a "real" gun (prop)? It's that type of stuff that kills the worth of CGI as a filmmaking tool. Anyways, that's just one example I thought of, and I'm sure there are better, or others. What I'm saying is, the very concept of SFX use here has bothered me from the start and everything I've seen has furthered that. I'm not hung up on the toes or the color scheme or anything like that. Just the big picture. As I said, I still welcome a great movie but I have the doubts on that end even more so, and this is the type of film where painfully bad effects wall to wall may only turn up the volume on the bad story and turn it into a 2 hour headache. |
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Are you telling me you're seriously going to be sitting there, and no matter the quality of the story, or the acting, or the direction, or the FX, or whatever, even if all that ends up being top notch, you'll be sitting there thinking "If only I couldn't see his toes".
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Probably.
That's what people do. "Batman's suit has nipples", "Batman's voice is wierd", etc. It's all stuff that a few people notice and then people jump on it and it grows and becomes a stain on the movie. |
Jokes on them.
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The toes were a stupid decision and no, it won't effect me in trying to enjoy the story or the acting or the movie as a whole, but I am aware of it and I do think it sucks. |
The problem with nitpicking is that I have been saying that about Green Lantern pretty much the whole movie. First it was the bad casting, then the CGI suit, the toes, etc. At this point, it is just a culmination of a bunch of shit. Every time some new detail gets revealed I am just like "meh.."..I will still go see the movie because I am a loser but I am just not getting my hopes up.
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And I was thinking...spider-man in the black/venom costume would have made some what of sense if I could see his toes. Not that I want to see his toes, just thinking it wouldn't have bothered me. And I do thinking about it, how does he climb walls with his feet if there is a pad of rubber or leather or whatever between him and the wall? So with Spider-Man it would make sense if he was wearing something that you could see his toes through, not aesthetically pleasing, but logical. |
Yeah, I always wondered that about Spider-Man as well. How are those tiny, microscopic little hooks that we saw come out of his fingertips in the first movie supposed to penetrate his shoes? Maybe he's wearing very lightly padded socks or something. Suspension of disbelief I guess.
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Just in time for her new show, Diana returns to her classic look after the year long story arc in street gear.
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Well, that didn't last long. I figured mean-streets Wonder Woman would only last about as long as electric-blue Superman did. Still, I did like some of the costume changes they did, particularly with the gauntlets and belt.
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Yeah I hoped it wold last longer.
I wouldn't mind Superman and Wonder Woman having some sort of permanent update. Batman got an update (in two flavors with Bruce's suit and Dick's suit). Green Arrow got a cool suit now (inspired by Smallville version? Which came first?). Clark and Diana look dated next to Bruce now. :( |
I didn't notice Green Arrow getting a new suit, and I just caught up in reading it
Also, Supes and Wonder Woman classic costumes are just fine. Had no problem with Wonder Woman's new costume though, but it was clearly just for "the story" until they change back. |
Green Arrow's had some adjustments and he looks a lot like Oliver in Smallville now.
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I didn't mind most of the changes in Wonder Woman's costume, with the exception of the stupid leather jacket. It made her less like an A-list superhero and more like a reject from the Birds of Prey.
Personally, I'd much rather keep Superman's costume the way it is. Sure it's old-fashioned compared to everyone else's, but Superman's always considered to be the quintessential old-fashioned superhero anyway. Plus, I have yet to see a revised Supes costume that doesn't just look gimmicky. |
I'm not talking something radical, just little streamline changes to perhaps translate the Kryptonian tech concept.
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Well, Superman doesn't exactly need tech in his costume. It makes sense for folks like Batman or Green Arrow to update their equipment from time to time, since their abilities are tech-based. Superman's powers are innate, so having a high-tech-looking suit doesn't really do anything for him.
If you have to change the look of the costume at all, I'd go with Superboy's outfit from Titans tomorrow, where they got rid of the trunks and put the red in his belt instead: http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/im...s_Tomorrow.jpg |
Not tech in a gear sense... More of an aesthetic thing, I guess. It's an alien suit, it should be more than a primary colored nazi.
Maybe just change the 'S', remove the trunks (would also make him uniformed with Bruce), increase the shield size to extend to his shoulders, and absolutely no black. If anything add yellow. Also, a katana. |
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http://www.kryptonsite.com/comicsga.jpg Though looking in the actual book, the costume doesn't look anything like that and he still uses his "normal"/"old" one. Woulda been cool if they used that one inside as well. EDIT: Looks like even that cover eventually got changed, now that I look closer: SPOILER: show |
That's a cool bow.
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Bryan Cranston, Ben McKenzie, Eliza Dushku and Katee Sackhoff have been tapped to star as the voices in Batman: Year One, the adaptation of the Frank Miller comic book classic from Warner Premiere, DC Entertainment and Warner Bros. Animation.
Lauren Montgomery and Sam Liu are directing the movie, the 12th entry in the successful series of DC universe animated originals. Tab Murphy wrote the script. The feature adapts the landmark four-issue story written by Miller and drawn by David Mazzucchelli that first appeared in 1987 on the heels of Miller's seminal work, Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. Those tomes, along with The Watchmen, helped elevate the comics medium, changing the public's perception of the art form and influencing Hollywood writers and artists to this day. In Year One, a young Bruce Wayne is first starting out as a costumed vigilante. He creates an early bond with Lieutenant James Gordon, whose importance in the tale makes it as much as Gordon's story as Wayne's. Cranston is playing Gordon, while McKenzie is Wayne/Batman. Dushku voices Catwoman, while Sackhoff is Detective Sarah Essen, a Gordon love interest. Additionally, Alex Rocco lends his pipes as crime lord Carmine Falcone. As one of the holy grails in comic books, Year One will be closely scrutinized for faithfulness, but superhero animation veteran Bruce Timm, who is exec producing, says there is very little in the movie that isn't in the comic. "The source material is surprisingly cinematic; it's a pretty straight forward literal retelling," he says. "Mazzucchelli's artwork is beautifully composed and we were able to refer to the comic for about 80 percent of the camera setups." Cranston, an Emmy winner for AMC's Breaking Bad, says he initially turned down the chance to work on Year One, not even wanting to read the script. He blames it on his ignorance of the animation medium as well as the classic comics. "I wasn't aware of this level of storytelling in animation. I confess that freely," he says. "They didn't give the characters the short shrift. I was stunned." Batman: Year One, which will be rated PG-13, is scheduled to be released on home video in the fall but will world premiere in July at Comic-Con. |
Very sexy.
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reminds me of a really misguided attempt at adapting the kingdom come costume.
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Tell me that's not Alan Scott...
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Yup Alan Scott.
He's used the Kingdom Come getup multiple times, this is nothing even close to it. Storyline spoilers: SPOILER: show |
well it's a little close to it, all armoured and hugely-necked. i did say "really misguided".
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i'ld motorboat that.
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Certainly.
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I read somewhere that has been the entire point of Wonder Woman since day one. Tying her up, then motorboating.
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Or just surprise her with it at random. It would be the last thing you'd ever do but what a way to go.
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I bet Diana makes the best sandwiches.
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Sometimes I wonder how comics got to this point.
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He looks like a rip off of Mojo.
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Nah, dude. I wouldn't call that better. Where's his majestic mustache? You can't beat a good mustache'd giant egg.
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You can if you have a giant egg beater.
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Still really hating the look of the CG in this film. Also, why does a green energy flamethrower construct shoot real flames? Shouldn't it shoot green flames? |
I don't know.
It is a much better cut trailer than the last one. Got to see Amanda Waller, too. |
Was messing around on imdb last night an noticed that Robert Englund is voicing Hector Hammond in the new GL Animated series.
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Dream casting or... a nightmare?
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I am adding "Sir, you are speaking to a recently discovered solar system!", to my daily lexicon.
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Action looks like it might actually be decent. Just the CG is offputting to me. Verdict is out on the story until I see it.
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Not too surprised about that one.
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Kathy Bates over Adrianne Palicki???
NBC = FAIL. |
Damn, not even gonna release the pilot episode (> Aguaman's "Mercy Reef"?)?
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Damn, DC.
They've got this Flashpoint event coming up, and with it they have some absurd number like 16 miniseries to go along with it. They canceled a few good series to make way for it too, including R.E.B.E.L.S. which was pretty fantastic. Really hoping R.E.B.E.L.S. comes back after the event is over or something. Call it L.E.G.I.O.N. again. |
DC Comics has announced that the last issue in its 5-part Flashpoint miniseries will be the only DC title that will arrive in comic book stores on August 31st, 2011. The 40-page, $3.99 final issue of the key series in the mega-crossover will be DC’s only release that week “because of its impact on the DC Universe.”
As DC put it on its The Source blog, “The war between the Amazons and the Atlantians has arrived. The battles between Diana of Themsycira and Emperor Aquaman will tear the world apart--unless The Flash can fix it.” |
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Really should have opened with this trailer, it shows off the galactic nature of GL much better. |
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The show may be canceled but here's a shot of Wonder Woman in her star-spangled bottom:
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets.../05/shorts.jpg Still miffed we may never see the pilot. |
And a creepy looking bald dude
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Yeah, almost a photo bomb.
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That looks like an athletic, non-fucked up version of Droford.
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And once more, for the record:
NBC passed up this: http://www.icv2.com/images/20130WonderWoman_MD.jpg in favor of this: http://media.pegasusnews.com/img/pho...25/schmidt.jpg |
NBC's been aimless post Fresh Prince and Friends.
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Wait, not Parks and Rec... |
I was half kidding.
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Don't think it had to do with movies... Perhaps some new media venture.
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Loving Secret Six. Gail Simone is quickly becoming one of my favorite writers.
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Oh, and I didn't like brightest day. Just felt like the story had no flow. Just a bunch of stuff jumbled together. Also, there were no resolutions to almost anything. It was almost like "Okay now start buying all these other books to find out how these stories end."
I don't mind a new story beginning in the epilogue, like the white lantern showing up at the end of blackest night, but when it leaves several loose ends, that will be tied up in multiple books, that is just a marketing ploy. |
There sure are a lot of white haired bitches in the DCU. Not talking about old people mind you, but young women who inexplicably have white hair.
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I haven't noticed.
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I can think of two.
And yeah, Secret Six is fantastic. Brightest Day may have been meh, but Justice League: Generation Lost was enjoyable. Though again, there is some stuff in that series that seemed to go nowhere. |
Oh shit, forgot I downloaded that. Gotta start reading it.
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This is why I prefer Marvel.
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