Is that Gambit?

grumpy old hawkeye, cap and wolverine post reboot

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All the new covers

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lol Some of this is comical. A caricature of comic book's 'NEW STATUS' reboot culture.

I've always been a Marvel fan, but this is ridiculous. All my favourites are gone, some of those ideas are just retarded. I realize they want to touch many subjects and stuff but to turn Iceman gay after 5 decades (it's not like there are no gay superheroes) or to have a pregnant superhero, who last I remember was like 15 in the comic books? Fucking Marvel Teen Mom.

Spider-Woman is not 15.

Oh. I was thinking of Ms. Marvel. Nevermind.

Still, I hate this reboot with a passion.

I just took issue with FemThor and the new Avengers line-up. Everything else is whatever.

What happened to the Male Thor...is he dead?

Nah, he's now unworthy after Nick Fury whispered something to his ear at the end of Original Sin. He lost his arm and goes by Odinson now.

Then again he died when the universes collided so who the fuck knows really. Most people died, yet they'll be here after Secret Wars.

Dunno, you go and give Secret Wars a try, maybe you'll understand more than I did, my brain hurts from reading it.

The second Captain Confedarcy was a black woman pregnant with the first Captain Confedarcys baby. Only ran upon that looking for female characters that might be converted to males.

Confedarcy? :cool:

Lol Confederacy my bad.

Steve Rogers old af now

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Who is Venom these days.... still Flash Thompson? Seems he is going to be a space ranger now....

Are the X-Men from the past still there... seeing Beast as more of a human dude on one of these covers...

He's looked like this for almost a year now.

Don't know who 3/6 of the people on the New Avengers cover are...

There's like a million different X-Men now during the Secret Wars, all universes. Who the fuck knows who's gonna be left when it's done.

I see there is also a female Star-Lord in Guardians of the Galaxy.... female versions for everyone!

Is "Spider-Gwen"'s superhero name really "Spider-Gwen"? Seems like the worst codename ever.... especially if you want to keep your identity a secret....

My brain hurts just from thinking about this.

Secret Wars: Reality destroyed ... at the end Doom was able to take power save what he could. So Doom is "GoD" with Dr Strange who turned down the chance is Dooms second in command. One life raft just was recovered after being buried for 8 years containing the Cabal while Strange had a raft with a few heros in status

Yes. Now read the tie-ins too. This crossover sucks balls, period.

Everything sucks balls now with Dc an Marvel. They have spent so much time giving in to everything that the line is a shambles and their readers have so whort of an attention span that they couldn't manage long subplots if they tried. Star Wars is the best Marvel has right now and I ma sure they will screw that up once it is time to shuffle creators again.
Currently spending my money looking for trades on 60 and 70's collections instead.

WTH...? If Marvel wanted to fuck everything up and go back to the beginning why didn't they just do a full on reboot like the New 52? This shit is getting way too complicated for someone who just started reading comics a little over a year ago. Almost makes me want to quit reading and go back to just the movies and animation.

Although more Old Man Logan does sound kinda cool I guess...

They tried a full reboot with the Ultimate universe and it didn't quite work imo. Neither compny needs a reboot they just need to losen up on continuity a little, stop killing everyone or turning them into villans and go back to what made them money in the 80's. The problem is that the readers now are pretty similar to the gaming crowd and have no patience to see anything develope.

Spider-Gwen is Spider-Woman in-universe but the fans love to say Spider-Gwen.

Ultimate Marvel was good and it was a success for them. But it went downhill, they killed off too many important heroes and it started to suck ass.

I think it was the 90's mentality that got to it but the end result is that it spread to the 616 line and its been nothing but shock and blah since. They need to srop the constant crossovers and readers have to stop beign so picky about continuity and let the editors handle it or not and just deal with it. I could care less about about a female Thor, although the story being told is good or a female Wolverine as long as we get one in a Avengers type movie, as long as the story being told over X+ chapters is just in those titles. Like it used to be waaay back when. Make a crossover special rather then boring and predictable.
Bring back an Anthology type title like Marvel Fanfare or Bizarre Adventures for the stories to be told out of continuity rather than change the continuity itself.

This is why I don't read comics.

It's seems impossible to follow anything for any length of time without having to get involved with tie-ins and spin-offs. Probably makes enjoying the movies easier too as I'm not concerned about them being too faithful to the source material.

That is why my current reading list is:
Star Wars
Star Trek
Star trek Visions (Photonovel style comics of 60's show w/ new adventures)
Six Million Dollar man

Why are they just turning people female now?

FemThor is one thing. There is a story behind that, and a good one at that. Even then it was a woman gaining the power of thor, not Thor being a woman now.

This shit is just ridiculous. Marvel Now was a perfctly fine jumping on point for new readers. Stuff like this just makes everything even more confusing.

I dunno. I was skeptical about FemThor and that's been good so far. Guess I'll read Secret Wars and give this a shot.

To be fair the female Wolverine is probably X-23 who is an established character so it's not like they just made Wolverine a chick. However, I kinda feel like making X-23 Wolverine takes away from her rather than builds her up. I mean it makes it seem like she couldn't be important on her own and needed his name to be considered a "real" hero. Would have preferred they just did an X-23 book instead. If they wanted her to fill the boots of Wolverine fine I'm all for that, but she didn't need his name and costume to do that.

Agree. She was better as her own character and being the first X-23 rather than the next wolverine.

She was written so good in X-force.

What is the deal with the female Star-Lord on the cover of Guardians of the Galaxy? Is that supposed to be "someone we know"?

Also confusing because there is a separate Star-Lord comic book that seems to have the male one.

This is so fucking stupid, Marvel.

Got no clue. Seems that Rocket is the leader of the Guardians now though so Fem Star-Lord seems like a waste of space. Honestly I don't see why they felt the need to split Star-Lord from the team anyway.

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