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Mr. Nerfect 09-06-2021 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5477092)
Matt Hardy is one of the biggest stars in the buisness.

He’s Jeff‘s brother and hasn’t been anywhere near good since 2008. The potential he was perceived to have was all projected from fans based on how over The Hardy Boyz were. Matt himself has flopped in every singles role he’s ever had on any level.

James Steele 09-07-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5477097)
He’s Jeff‘s brother and hasn’t been anywhere near good since 2008. The potential he was perceived to have was all projected from fans based on how over The Hardy Boyz were. Matt himself has flopped in every singles role he’s ever had on any level.

V1 had a good run I thought. Matt Hardy solo is a solid upper midcarder at best. I was never a fan of the "Broken" character.

Blonde Moment 09-07-2021 11:09 AM

His Broken character was fine until he went back to the Wwe.

rez 09-07-2021 07:25 PM

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WELCOME TO WWE DYNAMITE. We're LIVE in Bridgeport, Connecticut at The Webster Bank Arena!!!

Mr. Nerfect 09-08-2021 02:55 AM

Mattitude was funny for a moment...in 2003. He got that windfall in 2005 when Lita cheated on him, and he blew that. Apart from that he has been pretty awful.

Emperor Smeat 09-08-2021 05:39 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I am grateful to the impact I made in May of this year, and to AEW, both talents and staff. <br><br>Everyone welcomed me. <br><br>I was really happy. <br><br>I was so happy that I ate more bread than usual.<a href="https://twitter.com/IMPACTWRESTLING?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IMPACTWRESTLING</a><a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a><br><br>��❤️</p>&mdash; 小島 聡【SATOSHI KOJIMA】 (@cozy_lariat) <a href="https://twitter.com/cozy_lariat/status/1435345888709210114?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 09-09-2021 01:47 AM

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slik 09-09-2021 01:52 AM

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Damian Rey 2.0 09-09-2021 02:07 AM

Damn Braudy Lee calling Noid out for a match at Full Gear!? Sign me the fuck up!!!!

Simple Fan 09-09-2021 03:03 AM

Damn

Corporate CockSnogger 09-09-2021 08:28 AM

Really looking forward to seeing what this Adam Cole guy can bring to AEW’s junior division against Marko Stunt and Brodie Lee Jr

Lock Jaw 09-09-2021 09:09 AM

There was a moment in the brawl where Luchasaurus chucked Marko Stunt at everyone.... and JR confused Marko with Adam Cole, and I was just like "understandable".

xrodmuc316 09-09-2021 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5477969)
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That was funny as hell

slik 09-09-2021 02:24 PM

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Damian Rey 2.0 09-09-2021 03:47 PM

Looked to see what tickets were going for and it looks like they’re already sold out

Bad News Gertner 09-09-2021 04:18 PM

1.32 million for AEW this week

slik 09-09-2021 04:22 PM

2nd best in Dyna history I believe, behind the premiere.

Mr. Nerfect 09-09-2021 04:29 PM

Predictable rating. I thought they would get a 1.3 this week. Next week it will be 1.2. Then it will settle back into the 1.1 range. Whenever that Grand Slam show is will do 1.3 too. But it all trickles back down.

drave 09-09-2021 04:39 PM

They'll never hit a million


I knew they'd hit over a million, but it'll go back down


See it went back down, this is where it will stay, they'll never hit a million again


I knew they'd be over a million again, but it'll go back down again!!!




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Mr. Nerfect 09-09-2021 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5478103)
They'll never hit a million


I knew they'd hit over a million, but it'll go back down


See it went back down, this is where it will stay, they'll never hit a million again


I knew they'd be over a million again, but it'll go back down again!!!




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That’s your story, bud. What you’re confusing here is when Gerty said they would never consistently hit over 1 million viewers while they were opposed by NXT. Now that they’re unopposed, obviously that changes. But ignore that for the “critic bad” argument.

And yes, they will go back down. That is what always happens. They hot-shot something big for attention, they get it, a lot of people say “not for me,” then they go back to that 900k-1.1 million range. The big things on the horizon are Arthur Ashe and Ric Flair. They’ll probably scrounge something together after that, but it will likely continue in this pattern for a long-ass time.

Triple A 09-09-2021 05:03 PM

With TV ratings dropping across the board every year due to fewer people watching live TV, I feel like it's more likely that the way AEW could beat Raw in viewers would be when Raw eventually drops down to like 1.1 million or something in a couple of years, rather than AEW getting over 2 million

Mr. Nerfect 09-09-2021 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5478115)
With TV ratings dropping across the board every year, I feel like it's more likely that the way AEW could beat Raw in viewers would be when Raw eventually drops down to like 1.1 million or something in a couple of years, rather than AEW getting over 2 million

This seems to be a common theory, but the thing is, if the bottom falls out of Raw, AEW is probably going to be effected too. It’s more likely they end up in proportionate circumstances. If Raw loses 40% of its audience, then AEW is likely to lose a large chunk of theirs too. You’d probably have Raw doing 1.1 million and AEW doing 750k.

Damian Rey 2.0 09-09-2021 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5478093)
1.32 million for AEW this week

Gertner, I noticed there was no RIP line. Are you sick? Are you in trouble? Should we send help?

Emperor Smeat 09-09-2021 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5478115)
With TV ratings dropping across the board every year due to fewer people watching live TV, I feel like it's more likely that the way AEW could beat Raw in viewers would be when Raw eventually drops down to like 1.1 million or something in a couple of years, rather than AEW getting over 2 million

They already got the first part of the equation unlocked since this week's AEW show beat this week's RAW show in terms of the key demo viewers. Did it without having to include DVR viewers which is how CM Punk's debut Rampage show managed to top both RAW and SmackDown shows that week.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the first time Dynamite beat Raw in 18 to 49 in the same week.<br><br>Dynamite was also ahead of Raw in M18-49 and P35-49.<br><br>Dynamite ranked #1 among cable originals in the 18-49 demo for the day, according to Showbuzz.</p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1436059141718646786?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The general consensus online is AEW could probably over take RAW in terms of overall viewers this Fall but Meltzer thinks next Fall is more likely based on current trends and AEW's female viewership not being stable or strong enough where that could be possible yet.

Damian Rey 2.0 09-09-2021 06:17 PM

I think it’ll be around a year or so before Dynamite gets close to or matches Raw but as of late I’d imagine they and TNT are very happy with the results so far.

Damian Rey 2.0 09-09-2021 06:21 PM

The elite v Danielson drew 1.5m viewers. Color me impressed.

Emperor Smeat 09-09-2021 06:38 PM

Wrestlenomics Brandon Thurston gave some more details about AEW's ratings this week compared to WWE's shows.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patreon post has been updated with additional info, charts and context: <a href="https://t.co/Eb1yQbsqwF">https://t.co/Eb1yQbsqwF</a><br><br>I'll be doing a live YouTube ratings talk at 5:30pm ET at this link: <a href="https://t.co/HctgvTMwst">https://t.co/HctgvTMwst</a> <a href="https://t.co/ek6liQ24zq">pic.twitter.com/ek6liQ24zq</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1436065015224754181?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Basically shows how big the gaps are in certain areas that AEW would need to close first before they could even think about toppling RAW in overall viewers in the future. Plus where AEW is cracking the armor of SD which would be an even bigger deal if they toppled them one of these days considering FOX's network status compared to TNT's cable status.

Even if AEW numbers were to drop big next week, they'd still have the valuable experience and foundation in place to act as a launch pad for the next time.

Jordan 09-09-2021 06:50 PM

It only makes sense that AEW is finally beating both NXT and Raw because WWE is essentially a product for retards and burn victims.

Damian Rey 2.0 09-09-2021 08:23 PM

Melissa Santos went on Twitter to proclaim her husband Brian Cage is being misused in AEW and should be a top star. Don’t get me wrong, I like Cage enough. Good look. Great finisher. Kinda clunky in the ring and I’m not big on him trying to wrestle a style that’s not complimentary of his physical appearance, but he’s a good talent and they’ve featured him and mostly protected him since his debut, and he’s in finishing up a year long storyline with team taz. He also can’t cut a decent promo that I’ve seen and seems vanilla as fuck, personality wise. I get it’s get husband and she wants him to be the top guy but let’s be realistic here. He’s far from misused. He’s been beaten clean 3x in the last year as far as I know, one of which was Taz throwing in the towel and the other with Darby pinning him on a crucifix bomb off the top rope and was made to look like an upset.

Misused is certainly not the word I’d use. Underutilized, maybe. But even then.

Triple A 09-09-2021 09:30 PM

Feel like Brian Cage would fit in better in WWE tbh

Supreme Olajuwon 09-09-2021 09:41 PM

Thicc boi power rankings

1) Miro
2) Archer
3) Luchasaurus
4) Wardlow
5) Hobbs
6) Cage

I mean I get it. He’s been pretty much an afterthought. But he hasn’t been very exciting in his time on tv. Hope he can turn it around.

Emperor Smeat 09-09-2021 09:44 PM

Does John Silver count as a thicc boy?

If so, I'd put him and maybe Bear Country over Cage in AEW's thicc boy power rankings.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-09-2021 09:49 PM

Silver is more of a low key thiccums

This is more about meaty men slapping meat.

Emperor Smeat 09-09-2021 09:54 PM

Oh. Those rankings look about right in that case.

Luchasaurs feels a bit too high but can't go wrong with a nice hoss fight between any of those guys together.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-09-2021 10:01 PM

I think Cage is probably a better talent than 3, 4, and 5 on the list. But where they are on card now, he’s definitely at the bottom.

Still better than Hager though.

Emperor Smeat 09-09-2021 10:13 PM

Yeah I'd put Cage over Hager and maybe even Bear Country over Hager.

That recent MMA style match Hager had against Wardlow would have been way better had it been much shorter. Both guys being gassed half-way deflated a lot of the excitement their hoss fight had up until that point.

Even in Lucha Underground, Hager felt more in the lower end for meaty guys which made giving him LU's top belt a big head scratchier, especially since the company shut down right before the whole evil higher power supernatural group with him storyline would have taken off.

Damian Rey 2.0 09-09-2021 10:18 PM

Luchasaurus is ridiculously over, which Cage isn’t. I didn’t realize Hobbs has beef wrestling since 2009. He’s still 7 years younger than Cage. Wardlow isn’t doing much more of anything at all than Cage.

I don’t think Cage has much to complain about. He’s still getting tv time and segments and he’s getting another match with Starks before they hopefully move on to the Punk v Team Taz feud they planted seeds for.

I think breaking Cage from Taz was a bad idea for him. He needs a mouthpiece and he works well as a heater/hired gun type where he can just wreck guys and not talk much.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-09-2021 10:27 PM

The timing didn’t work out but if Cage would’ve ended up being Dan Lambert’s muscle it would’ve been perfect.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-09-2021 10:28 PM

AEW definitely has a thicc boi dilemma. Basically only Miro and Archer can get themselves over. Everybody else needs help.

Triple A 09-09-2021 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5478230)
I think breaking Cage from Taz was a bad idea for him. He needs a mouthpiece and he works well as a heater/hired gun type where he can just wreck guys and not talk much.

Yeah def... But even when Taz was cutting promos for him and Cage would just stand there doing his throat cutting gesture, he would do it in such an uninspired way...


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