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XL 11-17-2020 04:33 PM

Would they have been able to leave all the other guys on their Time Warner deals until like November (when they got Flair) or February (when they got nWo) and then pick them up?

Bad News Gertner 11-17-2020 05:54 PM

Those guys were not about the end their lucrative deals from WCW and go wrestle. Why the heck would they.

Gerard 11-17-2020 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5392423)
Would they have been able to leave all the other guys on their Time Warner deals until like November (when they got Flair) or February (when they got nWo) and then pick them up?

They could have waited and built the story up to a point where they had the top guys, but in true wwe fashion Vince blew his load with what he had and it was a forgettable storyline.

Regardless they probably would have still fucked it up even if they had waited.

Emperor Smeat 11-17-2020 06:21 PM

Still think WWE should have done the Invasion storyline as a multi-wave one since that would have given them the time needed to bring in the more notable big name WCW stars for it. ECW joining the invaders should have happened much later since that would have helped bridge the gap in time for the storyline.

It would have avoided most of the big problems that storyline had and also remove Austin's defection since that made litttle sense considering how much he actually hated WCW over how he was treated there.

Mr. Nerfect 11-17-2020 10:21 PM

There were lots of issues with the Invasion. Not being able to get the WCW names was a big one. Even if you could buy out their contracts, top WWF guys would want pay-offs. Plus, Vince had conditioned his audience to believe that WCW sucked and went out of business because they sucked. The WWF audience was interested in the story, no doubt, but they weren’t all WCW fans, so there was an education issue. Then you also had it as a McMahon storyline, which I remember not even remotely buying into as a kid.

I don’t think you do it right away. You want authenticity, and the core of the story is that Vince owns WCW now. We know that. So if WCW comes back it’s got to be under his auspices. He’s either parading it around like a trophy or he ignores it completely, because who cares about WCW, right? You can bring in guys like Lance Storm, but they’re not WCW guys. No one believes that. They’re WWF guys that Vince has acquired the contracts of. Storm can be promoted by Regal as the guy to take the IC Title off Jericho. That’s easy and believable.

You make the WWF audience *care* about the WCW guys first. Mike Awesome can win the Hardcore Title off Kane. Shane Helms and Billy Kidman can pad out the Light Heavyweight Division. DDP and Kanyon can be a tag team. Whatever. Just don’t try and convince me they aren’t approved to be there.


Then, once the big names are free, that’s when you start bringing in WCW guys, as WWF guys, but obviously carrying the spirit. That’s when they start rebelling. Flair is the perfect instigator for it. He can convince Booker T to bring back his big gold belt. But hopefully he’d have been a little over in the WWF with the WWF crowd by now.

Have WCW bubble up. The guys from WCW jumping the rail as a siren blares is just not believable.

Emperor Smeat 11-18-2020 03:27 AM

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Ol Dirty Dastard 11-18-2020 09:44 AM

I'm kind of with Bryan on that.

Unionization has been bandied about for eons. If Yang actually gets involved and makes life miserable for the WWE, it's worth discussing. Even then, WWE likely still wouldn't fold, but it'd be fun drama if there was some histrionic laden situation resulting from it.

A lot of wrestling fans have memories that span around a month. Every time history repeats itself, people act shocked.

erickman 11-18-2020 11:00 AM

like conrad said to bischoff no matter what happens vince will not lose any money. if the rip out office stuff and fire most of the staff. if there is a union the mane eventers will be the ones to lose the most money.

Bad News Gertner 11-18-2020 11:07 AM

Gucci Mane Eventers

Gerard 11-18-2020 03:43 PM

WWE already had a Union.

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:shifty:

Fignuts 11-18-2020 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by erickman (Post 5392620)
like conrad said to bischoff no matter what happens vince will not lose any money. if the rip out office stuff and fire most of the staff. if there is a union the mane eventers will be the ones to lose the most money.

Yeah that’s why Hogan ratted our Ventura.

#1-norm-fan 11-19-2020 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5392685)
WWE already had a Union.

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:shifty:

Damn. It never dawned on me until just now how bad of an idea it was for them to literally have an anti-Vince stable named “The Union”. Crazy to think that THAT is one of WWE’s more regrettable gimmicks.

Gerard 11-19-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5392890)
Damn. It never dawned on me until just now how bad of an idea it was for them to literally have an anti-Vince stable named “The Union”. Crazy to think that THAT is one of WWE’s more regrettable gimmicks.


It lasted about what, 3 weeks to a month? Surprised they even managed to get a theme.

slik 11-19-2020 11:52 AM

WWE officially moving to Tampa for RAW/SD/PPVs thru prob Mania season....Tropicana Field notorious for being one of, if not the shittiest baseball stadium in MLB...

screech 11-19-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5392938)
It lasted about what, 3 weeks to a month? Surprised they even managed to get a theme.

Even better that the theme was included in WrestleMania 2000 lol

Fignuts 11-19-2020 01:55 PM

Io SHirai vs Rhea Ripley was incredible.

Nicky Fives 11-19-2020 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5392951)
WWE officially moving to Tampa for RAW/SD/PPVs thru prob Mania season....Tropicana Field notorious for being one of, if not the shittiest baseball stadium in MLB...

WWE probably has more crew than has been in attendance for the Rays all MLB season..... It will be nice to see more than 1000 people in that building....

GD 11-19-2020 02:10 PM

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ClockShot 11-19-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5392951)
WWE officially moving to Tampa for RAW/SD/PPVs thru prob Mania season....Tropicana Field notorious for being one of, if not the shittiest baseball stadium in MLB...

Can't believe the Rays are that stupid.

That being said, I hope they're charging WWE like double or triple the amount they paid to rent the Amway center.

Emperor Smeat 11-19-2020 05:04 PM

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fundiddle 11-19-2020 06:53 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnOSdR9V...jpg&name=small


https://64.media.tumblr.com/29e2b595...o3_r1_400.gifv

DaveWadding 11-20-2020 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5393005)
Io SHirai vs Rhea Ripley was incredible.

Fuck yeah, what a great match.

Gerard 11-20-2020 04:13 PM

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Black Widow 11-20-2020 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeletor (Post 5393016)
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Can idiots stop asking the same garbage before he gets tried of answering and decides to not do no more interviews?

Bad News Gertner 11-20-2020 05:21 PM

One more time in English please

Black Widow 11-20-2020 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5393178)
One more time in English please

There was a english girl that i hooked up with back in HS and if you have her number somehow give it to me then id be happy to go one more time in english.

Emperor Smeat 11-20-2020 06:49 PM

Apparently the WWE investors lawsuits against the company in regards to allegations of shady stuff going down with WWE's Saudi deals got settled out of court for around $39 million.

That included allegations of WWE misleading their investors over how much they were actually getting for the Saudi shows, not telling them about the Saudi government being late with payments, and keeping secret the big dispute between Vince and the Saudi crown prince that led to the infamous plane incident last year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The WWE just settled the Saudi Arabia lawsuit out of court for $39 million.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1329912655574810625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

fundiddle 11-20-2020 07:26 PM

undertaker is to KISS what jericho wishes he was to KISS

Savio 11-20-2020 09:50 PM

Too be fair "The Union" was against Shane, not Vince.

GD 11-21-2020 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5393175)
Can idiots stop asking the same garbage before he gets tried of answering and decides to not do no more interviews?

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Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5393190)
There was a english girl that i hooked up with back in HS and if you have her number somehow give it to me then id be happy to go one more time in english.

You’re lowkey the dumbest poster I’ve come across this forum.

Black Widow 11-21-2020 02:05 AM

C'mon you have already called me dumb keep the insults fresh if you are gonna do insults at me.

GD 11-21-2020 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5393277)
C'mon you have already called me dumb keep the insults fresh if you are gonna do insults at me.

Not an insult. Merely an observation. Observations don’t need to be witty. They just need to be factual.

Bad News Gertner 11-21-2020 08:24 AM

Really fucking dumb

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-21-2020 08:32 AM

Dumb and CLEARLY inbred

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-21-2020 08:48 AM

Dave, why are you calling yourself a misogynist?

Lock Jaw 11-21-2020 11:07 AM

Guys, just accept that Black Widow is better than all us loser nerds

GD 11-21-2020 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5393340)
Guys, just accept that Black Widow is better than all us loser nerds

Simp much?

Black Widow 11-21-2020 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5393302)
Really fucking dumb

My gf is kinda dumb so guess you are right for once.

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5393305)
Dumb and CLEARLY inbred

Got some hot family members so what.

Evil Vito 11-21-2020 08:42 PM

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Fandango did well for himself. :y: Still should've been utilized far more on the main roster than he was.

slik 11-22-2020 03:00 AM

wtf is this


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