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Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 06:46 PM

There's soooo many alternatives to WWE and AEW.

I went the extreme route and just watch old stuff. Much happier than hate watching current stuff.

Emperor Smeat 09-02-2020 06:51 PM

Any specific promotion for classic wrestling or just whatever you feel in the mood for watching that day?

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 07:23 PM

I have my massive WWF house show collection which I watch quite a bit. I've got stuff that I added two years ago that I still haven't found the time to watch.

80's Memphis Wrestling is so much fun and a regular go to. Continental Wrestling is also a ton of fun.

82-85 Mid South Wrestling is also great.

AWA is boring as shit. Their weekly t.v even prior to the ESPN deal was just so bleh.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 07:26 PM

There's so much footage on YouTube that people have no idea about. It just requires some exploring.

If you're looking for stuff outside the WWF I would start with Memphis

I LOVE Memphis.

Emperor Smeat 09-02-2020 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Von Gertner (Post 5370783)
I have my massive WWF house show collection which I watch quite a bit. I've got stuff that I added two years ago that I still haven't found the time to watch.

80's Memphis Wrestling is so much fun and a regular go to. Continental Wrestling is also a ton of fun.

82-85 Mid South Wrestling is also great.

AWA is boring as shit. Their weekly t.v even prior to the ESPN deal was just so bleh.

Nice.

While not as far back in wrestling time, I've been thinking for a long while to start watching WCW Nitro from its start to end. Since I was mainly a WWF guy at the time, never had any real interest until very recently in watching the pre-nWo era of Nitro and most of Nitro's late era stuff I missed out on back then.

Just haven't figured out yet where in my weekly watching schedule to pencil in the time for Nitro or if I want to actually drop RAW or Smackdown for it.

Fignuts 09-02-2020 07:50 PM

I’ve been watching Mid Atlantic episodes on the WWE network lately.

Fignuts 09-02-2020 07:51 PM

Also some of the mid south stuff. I love Ernie Ladd on commentary.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5370789)
I’ve been watching Mid Atlantic episodes on the WWE network lately.

I've been wanting to go through the 83 Mid Atlantic stuff. I need to go torrent hunting. Haven't in a while.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5370790)
Also some of the mid south stuff. I love Ernie Ladd on commentary.

I love doing Ernie Ladd impressions. Ernie is great.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5370786)
Nice.

While not as far back in wrestling time, I've been thinking for a long while to start watching WCW Nitro from its start to end. Since I was mainly a WWF guy at the time, never had any real interest until very recently in watching the pre-nWo era of Nitro and most of Nitro's late era stuff I missed out on back then.

Just haven't figured out yet where in my weekly watching schedule to pencil in the time for Nitro or if I want to actually drop RAW or Smackdown for it.

A word of warning- 95 Nitro is fucking AWFUL. 96 Nitro pre NWO is entertaining just for the Flair vs Savage feud and anything Lex Luger (I'm not kidding, he's the highlight of most shows). The Hogan v Dungeon of Doom/Arn/Flair shit really drags the shows down.


I also do long stretch projects like watch all the 97 Raws in order or the 98 WCW Worldwide episodes in order. Depends on the mood.

Evil Vito 09-02-2020 08:46 PM

The Rock and his family have tested positive for COVID-19

screech 09-02-2020 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Von Gertner (Post 5370784)
There's so much footage on YouTube that people have no idea about. It just requires some exploring.

If you're looking for stuff outside the WWF I would start with Memphis

I LOVE Memphis.

I came across some Memphis stuff on YouTube recently. No idea who the people were but I enjoyed it.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 09:33 PM

It's so much fun. It's the one promotion where I can just watch a random show and enjoy it immensely without knowing what's going on. Wild and crazy show. Stuff like this for example. So much fun. Lance Russell was so great.




One of my favourite characters in wrestling : Ronnie P Gossett


Fignuts 09-03-2020 12:52 AM

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Loved this. I watched that show many years ago over the course of a week. Couple hours a sitting. It was a great show, but holy fuck you could not pay me to watch it in one sitting.

Emperor Smeat 09-03-2020 01:40 AM

Apparently AJ Styles was among those in WWE who tested positive for the coronavirus during last month's outbreak at the Performance Center.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrestlingNews.co
During his Twitch stream this evening, AJ Styles announced that he was one of the WWE Superstars who tested positive for COVID-19 last month.

Styles announced this shortly after The Rock announced he and his family tested positive for the virus.

Styles said, “I also tested positive a couple of weeks ago, probably almost a month ago. I feel for people who have to deal with this but I gotta say, I didn’t have that many problems with it. Hopefully The Rock and his family, hopefully everybody is safe and everybody is taken care of and nobody has too bad of symptoms and stuff like that. It sucks, it’s not good for anybody.”


Emperor Smeat 09-03-2020 08:42 PM

Seems WWE might be planning for NXT to have live fans return by mid-December based on recent ticket sales listings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Post Wrestling
An NXT show at Center Stage in Atlanta, Georgia that was originally set for April has been moved to Thursday, December 17th. Tickets for the event at Center Stage are currently on-sale. POST Wrestling reached out to Center Stage for a comment about tickets being on-sale for the show.


Droford 09-03-2020 11:32 PM

Vince should just give up planning WM for outdoors in Los Angeles

I can see them having fans by WM but no way they'll have it at SoFi Stadium.

Big Vic 09-04-2020 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370764)
So if NXT moves to Tuesdays, USA would have essentially replaced Smackdown Live for roughly $.05 on the dollar.

Worried about AEW though, who are they gonna blame it on if they get a bad rating now???

Wrestling burnout

screech 09-04-2020 09:37 AM

It's better for everyone if they're on separate nights. With DVR (and NXT originally being an exclusive to WWE Network), "ratings wars" are kinda obsolete. Plus if rasslin fans want to watch, they will - it just may not be while the show airs.

Someone on Twitter suggested NXT move to Thursdays because of Impact on Tuesdays. Not gonna lie, I completely forgot which night Impact aired.

slik 09-04-2020 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370764)
So if NXT moves to Tuesdays, USA would have essentially replaced Smackdown Live for roughly $.05 on the dollar.

Worried about AEW though, who are they gonna blame it on if they get a bad rating now???

When they actually have a bad rating I guess we'll find out

Mr. Nerfect 09-04-2020 04:00 PM

WWE are not going to want Dynamite to go unopposed if it’s a night they could run. AEW doing “fine” outside it’s is usual slot is not necessarily a great thing. Networks thinking wrestling fans will follow this (and them possibly being right) is carte blanche for them to do what they want.

I can see TNT moving Dynamite to a Thursday and then WWE counterprogramming that too.

Droford 09-04-2020 04:33 PM

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I feel bad for anyone who buys this towel

Volare 09-04-2020 05:10 PM

Wow wait wtf shit huh??

Evil Vito 09-04-2020 05:26 PM

well, time to go bleach my eyes

Emperor Smeat 09-04-2020 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5371119)
I can see TNT moving Dynamite to a Thursday and then WWE counterprogramming that too.

If AEW ever got moved to Thursdays on TNT then it would either get preempted a lot more often due to basketball or would lose their prime time spot and be on a worse time for wrestling in order to not be affected.

Outside of Saturday, no other date would make sense to move AEW since they'd either be looking at seasonal preemption due to NBA (Tues & Thurs), direct competition from WWE's main shows (Mon & Fri plus some Sun), or direct competition from NFL (Mon, Thurs, Sun). Wednesday is still the ideal day between the two since its the stronger night for ratings.

Gerard 09-04-2020 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5371125)
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I feel bad for anyone who buys this towel

:|

Wonder how much Viagra it takes to offset the Boner killing visuals in this Towel.

Lock Jaw 09-04-2020 07:04 PM

Vickie Guerrero is in AEW now?

Who is the other braud?

Bad News Gertner 09-04-2020 07:10 PM

Nyla Rose?

Emperor Smeat 09-04-2020 07:19 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Top 5 WCW Superstars of all time are:<br>1.<br>2.<br>3.<br>4.<br>5.</p>&mdash; WWE on FOX (@WWEonFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEonFOX/status/1301641119692849152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sting, Hogan, and Flair would be in my list but would need more time to really decide on the other two. Currently leaning towards DDP and Goldberg as my choices for the other spots.

Emperor Smeat 09-04-2020 08:05 PM

Seems WWE went nuclear on their talent being allowed to have Twitch channels and other third party accounts on the side. A bunch of WWE talent owned Twitch channels got taken down today.

Wouldn't be surprised if this was all AJ Styles fault since he mentions a lot of stuff during his Twitch streams that WWE would probably wished would be kept private instead like outing the beef he had with Heyman and him testing positive for the coronavirus.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrestlingInc
Vince McMahon issued an edict this past week that talent can no longer "engage with outside third parties," which would presumably include platforms like Cameo and Twitch.

WWE held a call with talent last Sunday regarding the reinvention of the product. During the call, it was said that WWE owns the real names of talent, not just their character names.

McMahon followed up by sending a letter on Thursday. McMahon wrote that it was imperative that they promote and protect the brand in every conceivable way, and that talent have 30 days to stop engaging with third parties.

"Some of you are engaged with outside third parties using your name and likeness in ways that are detrimental to our company," McMahon wrote. "It is imperative that these activities be terminated within the next 30 days (by Friday October 2). Continued violations will result in fines, suspension, or termination at WWE's discretion."

McMahon wrote that these actions are necessary as part of WWE's rebuilding process as they "enter the next phase of growth at WWE."

It will be interesting to see if this is legal in any way. WWE wrestlers are classified as independent contractors, which has been heavily criticized in the past by shows like HBO's Last Week Tonight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fightful
In regards to the WrestlingINC story ran about WWE asking their talent to cease third party agreements, Fightful can confirm that's true.

Many main roster members hadn't even heard of the news and had only glanced over a letter, while others were livid about the request. One top name wasn't upset, saying that Cameo definitely cuts into the virtual meet and greet market. Another longtime star said that WWE is setting themselves up for a rough situation, as this is a foggy area with their classification as independent contractors.

Originally, word was that WWE were upset about sensitive information leaking during streams.


Volare 09-04-2020 08:56 PM

Wtf...AJ had an awesome stream!

Gerard 09-04-2020 09:10 PM

Vince needs to eat a dick, theyre supposodly "independent contractors" so what they do in their own time has fuck all to do with him.

Unless he wants to call them employees, if so I hope he has a few hundred million in cash sitting around on standby.

Mad old cunt.

Emperor Smeat 09-04-2020 09:24 PM

Seems the part of WWE going as far as trying to claim ownership of their talent's real names for outside stuff while under contract wasn't correct based on another update from Fightful but everything else in WrestlingInc's original report was true.

Also some talent within WWE were okay with the company's recent power move based on those Fightful talked to.

Evil Vito 09-04-2020 09:25 PM

Vince thinks he’s one step away from legitimately owning them

Emperor Smeat 09-04-2020 09:52 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just a little reference on how lucrative Twitch is for some of them: Paige had about 15K concurrent subscribers. For sake of argument let's presume they're all Tier 1. That means she is pulling minimum $45,000 a month if she had a 3/5 split. Imagine that just disappearing.</p>&mdash; Chris Denker (DenkOps) (@thechrisdenker) <a href="https://twitter.com/thechrisdenker/status/1302023756282499075?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Using $45k as a basis, Vince's new edict would cost Paige around $540k for a year's worth of extra pay on the side just from Twitch.

Gerard 09-04-2020 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5371199)
Vince thinks he’s one step away from legitimately owning them

The post above claims they own the talents real names and not just their performer names...just wtf.

slik 09-04-2020 10:25 PM

The twitch/tiktok/cameo thing is so shitty

I'm sure it is all about $$$, not the content

Vince sees talent getting $ that he doesn't have a cut of, freaks out and fucks a lot of them over. I wonder if this ends Asuka's YT channel too.

slik 09-04-2020 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5371204)
The post above claims they own the talents real names and not just their performer names...just wtf.

Probably so if anyone ever has a non-WWE related breakout moment like Dave Batista, using their real name, Vince will make $$$ off of them forever.

It's so fucking greedy

slik 09-04-2020 10:35 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Like I said weeks ago: Vince McMahon has a decades-long history of controlling/exploiting wrestlers and office staff financially. Most famously, he'd aggressively push them to buy houses, sometimes just to make sure they had massive debt debt, and sometimes using WWE as a lender!</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1302002288588980227?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

screech 09-04-2020 10:41 PM

I'd be furious if my job classified me as an independent contractor while not allowing me to work elsewhere (rasslin or otherwise) to make money, and without giving me health insurance.

What a bunch of shit.


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