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Mr. Nerfect 08-03-2020 03:07 AM

AEW is as big as it’s going to get. The WWE have succeeded in capping them/they’ve succeeded in capping themselves.

Mr. Nerfect 08-03-2020 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RastafarianMon (Post 5363467)
i disagree with your assessment wholeheartedly.

Cool. :y:

Mr. Nerfect 08-03-2020 07:07 AM

I like MJF's promos, Gedo's booking and the idea of Becky Lynch eventually doing porn.

fundiddle 08-03-2020 10:01 AM

is there a thread for Talk ‘N Shop A Mania because if i missed it, there should be. simply amazing, it's like Trailer Park Boys meets... well
https://i.redd.it/tehlattlo1az.jpg

Volare 08-03-2020 12:37 PM

I hope it's MJF doing these himself, cause his FB page (and twitter) is littered in GOLD.

https://scontent.ffcm1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...89&oe=5F4F950D

drave 08-03-2020 12:47 PM

MJF's promo last week was fucking FIRE.


Dude is great.

drave 08-03-2020 12:48 PM

Would have LOVED to hear the loud ass BOOS if that would have been a show in front of a crowd.

BigCrippyZ 08-03-2020 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5363349)
Why doesn't anybody seem to remember AEW getting a trademark for Tuesday Night Dynamite before they even had a TV deal?

I don't know where you're getting this from because it didn't happen.

Under the law, a trademark does not exist under common law or statute, and no registration will be approved by the USPTO or a state, unless and until the mark is actually used in commerce. If an application to register is filed prior to use of the mark in commerce, the registration will be denied. The only permissible application that may be granted prior to use of the mark in commerce is an intent to use application which lasts for a period of 6 months.

Lock Jaw 08-03-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 5363562)
MJF's promo last week was fucking FIRE.


Dude is great.

Just because you said it, I went and found it on YouTube.... was PrettyGood.... MJF always reminded me of a "less good" The Miz at his peak...

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-03-2020 03:32 PM

MJF is better than the Miz.

Lock Jaw 08-03-2020 03:39 PM

Not yet, but seeing as how is near the beginning of his career and almost as good as peak Miz, I think he'll get there.

But I probably won't know because I don't watch anyways.... he may actually have already done it for all I know. *shrug*

Mr. Nerfect 08-03-2020 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 5363563)
Would have LOVED to hear the loud ass BOOS if that would have been a show in front of a crowd.

The crowd will end up cheering MJF. Their booing isn't authentic. Wrestling is dead.

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Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 5363583)
I don't know where you're getting this from because it didn't happen.

Under the law, a trademark does not exist under common law or statute, and no registration will be approved by the USPTO or a state, unless and until the mark is actually used in commerce. If an application to register is filed prior to use of the mark in commerce, the registration will be denied. The only permissible application that may be granted prior to use of the mark in commerce is an intent to use application which lasts for a period of 6 months.

:roll: Well, actually...

Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up, dude. You know what he meant. Anyone can do a Google search on this. Stop sucking Shad Khan's dick.

Mr. Nerfect 08-03-2020 06:07 PM

MJF is great, but he's in a shit promotion. I look forward to him jumping ship to somewhere in a few years time. The Miz is pretty awful. His "comfort" on the mic doesn't matter to me, because he sucks in the ring and nothing he says makes me excited to see anything he's going to do. The team with Morrison at least puts him with someone I do want to see in the ring.

Fignuts 08-03-2020 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5363592)
Not yet, but seeing as how is near the beginning of his career and almost as good as peak Miz, I think he'll get there.

But I probably won't know because I don't watch anyways.... he may actually have already done it for all I know. *shrug*

Nah, MJF is better. And I'm a big Miz fan.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-03-2020 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5363592)
Not yet, but seeing as how is near the beginning of his career and almost as good as peak Miz, I think he'll get there.

But I probably won't know because I don't watch anyways.... he may actually have already done it for all I know. *shrug*

Miz is half-decent. That's it. MJF is pretty exceptional.

Emperor Smeat 08-03-2020 09:36 PM

When was peak Miz period, Mania 27?

The "shoot" promo against Bryan on Talking Smack in 2016 is the only other notable period I can think of for him in terms of peak worthiness.

Droford 08-03-2020 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5363590)
MJF is better than the Miz.

And the Miz knows it

Droford 08-03-2020 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fundiddle (Post 5363500)
is there a thread for Talk ‘N Shop A Mania because if i missed it, there should be. simply amazing, it's like Trailer Park Boys meets... well
https://i.redd.it/tehlattlo1az.jpg

I was going to watch it but the Orioles game distracted me

BigCrippyZ 08-03-2020 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5363615)
You know what he meant. Anyone can do a Google search on this. Stop sucking Shad Khan's dick.

No, I don't actually, as I stopped reading as soon as I realized his facts were wrong. An argument or point is (or should be) based on facts or factual circumstances. His argument or point was irrelevant and incorrect due to him basing it on or relying on untrue factual information. BTW, if you're argument for "proof" is you can Google the info, you're a pathetic hack and a fucking idiot, and I wouldn't trust you to mow my lawn or even get my order right at a fast food joint, let alone provide me with accurate information. This is the problem with modern society. People believe that they "know" more than they do, or at best rely on untrue or incomplete facts, in making their arguments or conclusions.

Mr. Nerfect 08-03-2020 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5363719)
When was peak Miz period, Mania 27?

The "shoot" promo against Bryan on Talking Smack in 2016 is the only other notable period I can think of for him in terms of peak worthiness.

That's a weird way of wording it. Speaking about his talent, yeah, The Miz is pretty shit (although y'all were on his balls in 2016), but "worthiness?" The guy is a bigger star than anyone in AEW right now.

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Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 5363760)
No, I don't actually, as I stopped reading as soon as I realized his facts were wrong. An argument or point is (or should be) based on facts or factual circumstances. His argument or point was irrelevant and incorrect due to him basing it on or relying on untrue factual information. BTW, if you're argument for "proof" is you can Google the info, you're a pathetic hack and a fucking idiot, and I wouldn't trust you to mow my lawn or even get my order right at a fast food joint, let alone provide me with accurate information. This is the problem with modern society. People believe that they "know" more than they do, or at best rely on untrue or incomplete facts, in making their arguments or conclusions.

That's funny, I stopped reading this post after the first sentence when it became obvious it was semantic bullshit. "Well actually, if a trademark isn't used on the air then..." fucking stupid and irrelevant to any conversation anyone was trying to have. You completely circumnavigated that because you know what you're trying to do is a crock a shit.

AEW were going to call the show Tuesday Night Dynamite, because Tony Khan is a mark that saw that SmackDown was moving nights and he wanted to hop on. Then they called it "Dynamite" because it wasn't on Tuesdays and it was quite possible the show would be bounced around to different nights. That's the fucking point. You're trying to murk that up in jargon, because you're dishonest and can't get enough of that tasty Shad shaft.

Will you still put AEW's balls in your mouth when the rest of the bandwagon has jumped off and are onto something else? Or will your frivolous mind wander to the next fad like everyone else? :lol:

Emperor Smeat 08-03-2020 11:41 PM

What other notable peak periods did Miz have besides Mania 27 in 2011 and Talking Smack in 2016?

Him and Truth wrecking things in WWE and facing off against Rock & Cena in a big tag match happened later in 2011 but I'd consider it as being part of Mania 27 peak period. Wasn't till around after that tag match that he started to lose a lot of steam and direction.

Lock Jaw 08-04-2020 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5363719)
When was peak Miz period, Mania 27?

The "shoot" promo against Bryan on Talking Smack in 2016 is the only other notable period I can think of for him in terms of peak worthiness.

Yeah, I'd say 2016 his run as IC champ with Maryse/Bo/Axel by his side was his peak.

I was also actually quite enjoying his matches too.

Mr. Nerfect 08-04-2020 12:14 AM

The Miz should have never been in that WrestleMania 27 position. I think we should all be able to admit that now.

He's fine as Morrison's partner, but it would also be fine if he announced his retirement and that he was cashing in on an insurance policy that would allow him to act/manage full-time.

Mr. Nerfect 08-04-2020 12:18 AM

I remember watching The Miz vs. Shinsuke Nakamura w/ Sami Zayn and thinking "They've got Shinsuke Nakamura in the ring and they decide to put him with The Miz over Sami Zayn?"

Have The Miz become a manager and go after Cesaro's contract. He finally has the guy with the strength and the skill to get the WWE Championship the company would never let him get close to again. Zayn goes against Cesaro because he feels betrayed. Fucking easy. Get that shit sorted.

Emperor Smeat 08-04-2020 03:48 AM

According to PWI, recent rumors of Lucha Libre AAA considering the idea of purchasing CMLL are true based on some of the recent chatter from Mexico.

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Originally Posted by PWI
There was a reference to AAA possibly buying CMLL on the most recent edition of [MLW] Pulp Fiction during a segment where AAA's Dorian Roldan was trying to buy Salina de la Renta's Promociones Dorado. While that purchase was obviously storyline, we are told there is smoke to the fire when it comes to AAA and CMLL talking about a potential deal. If THAT happens, in Mexico, it would be bigger than WWF buying WCW. Sadly, CMLL has been in the midst of a political war internally since the passing of Paco Alonso with different factions behind the scenes against each other.

If that were to actually happened, would be very interesting in seeing what happens with the partnerships both companies currently have since on AAA's side they have Impact, MLW, and AEW while CMLL has NJPW and ROH. Then you have side partnerships like NJPW with RevPro and ROH with NWA to also take into account.

fundiddle 08-04-2020 05:57 PM

i don’t think those partnerships exist in the event of a sale/liquidation on the seller end but i could be wrong

Mr. Nerfect 08-04-2020 06:36 PM

You're not wrong.

slik 08-04-2020 07:57 PM

Can't even announce their name in a vignette on TV, just have it announced via their website in a article...

So lazy...



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/wNpELtByip">https://t.co/wNpELtByip</a> has learned that the faction behind the attacks last night on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> is calling themselves RETRIBUTION.<a href="https://t.co/s40OfWWPTh">https://t.co/s40OfWWPTh</a> <a href="https://t.co/FUBfI6QFKp">pic.twitter.com/FUBfI6QFKp</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1290786185397317634?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 08-04-2020 08:04 PM

Justus would have been a better name.

Really hope this new faction storyline doesn't end up leading to the Authority returning on tv since Steph and Triple H's poor-man's version of the Corporation got stale pretty quickly.

Mr. Nerfect 08-04-2020 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5363987)
Can't even announce their name in a vignette on TV, just have it announced via their website in a article...

So lazy...



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/wNpELtByip">https://t.co/wNpELtByip</a> has learned that the faction behind the attacks last night on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> is calling themselves RETRIBUTION.<a href="https://t.co/s40OfWWPTh">https://t.co/s40OfWWPTh</a> <a href="https://t.co/FUBfI6QFKp">pic.twitter.com/FUBfI6QFKp</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1290786185397317634?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Most of AEW’s development happens on YouTube and the internet. At least an “outsider” group makes sense in this light.

Supreme Olajuwon 08-04-2020 09:06 PM

Watching Summerslam 92 on FS1. Savage/Warrior on now. Has to be the most tassel filled championship match in the history of wrestling.

https://www-thesun-co-uk.cdn.ampproj...trip=all&w=642

Supreme Olajuwon 08-04-2020 09:22 PM

I know people say Hogan at Wrestlemania is Warrior’s best match but I like his two matches with Savage a lot more. Feel like Warrior and Savage must have had a great working relationship because Warrior sold his ass off in these matches. Or maybe he really was just so gassed and had no stamina. Either way, I enjoyed the ride!

Bad News Gertner 08-04-2020 09:40 PM

Ultimate Warrior is one of the greatest big match wrestlers ever.

Dead serious.

Mr. Nerfect 08-04-2020 09:42 PM

I forgot they had that match in that attire. Such a crazy visual. Wrestling doesn’t get to look like that anymore.


Fox Sports 1 seems to show a lot of WWF PPVs. How do they do numbers-wise? Probably a great sweetener for both sides in that FOX/WWE deal people say FOX must regret because SmackDown only draws two and half times what AEW does.

Mr. Nerfect 08-04-2020 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Gertner (Post 5364006)
Ultimate Warrior is one of the greatest big match wrestlers ever.

Dead serious.

I hate the guy, but his matches against Rick Rude, Randy Savage, Hulk Hogan and Sgt. Slaughter agree with you. The guy also brought something to it. Wish he wasn’t utterly a fuckwit.

Emperor Smeat 08-04-2020 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5364008)
I forgot they had that match in that attire. Such a crazy visual. Wrestling doesn’t get to look like that anymore.


Fox Sports 1 seems to show a lot of WWF PPVs. How do they do numbers-wise? Probably a great sweetener for both sides in that FOX/WWE deal people say FOX must regret because SmackDown only draws two and half times what AEW does.

Around the 100k to 200k range as the average. They had a couple old shows that hit the 300k+ range but that was rare.

In terms of being a lead-in for WWE Backstage and helping boost that viewership, it usually did an abysmal job in that role.

FOX is dropping that classic programming block in a couple of weeks for baseball and haven't mentioned if its returning afterwards.

Bad News Gertner 08-04-2020 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5364009)
I hate the guy, but his matches against Rick Rude, Randy Savage, Hulk Hogan and Sgt. Slaughter agree with you. The guy also brought something to it. Wish he wasn’t utterly a fuckwit.

It's so weird. He's not good, but I can't think of a major PPV match post SummerSlam 88 (IC win) of his that wasn't at least very good to great. People can counter with "well look who he was in the ring with". Rick Rude and Jake Roberts stunk up the joint night after night for a year.

Black Widow 08-04-2020 10:45 PM

My post really got removed lame fuckers.

Mr. Nerfect 08-04-2020 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5364012)
Around the 100k to 200k range as the average. They had a couple old shows that hit the 300k+ range but that was rare.

In terms of being a lead-in for WWE Backstage and helping boost that viewership, it usually did an abysmal job in that role.

FOX is dropping that classic programming block in a couple of weeks for baseball and haven't mentioned if its returning afterwards.

That doesn’t sound bad at all. Almost as much as AEW gets. Not a bad deal to have that stuff in your back catalogue to bust out for a couple of hundred thousand viewers when there is nothing live on.

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Gertner (Post 5364020)
It's so weird. He's not good, but I can't think of a major PPV match post SummerSlam 88 (IC win) of his that wasn't at least very good to great. People can counter with "well look who he was in the ring with". Rick Rude and Jake Roberts stunk up the joint night after night for a year.

Yeah, lots of wrestlers who have individually good reputations have flopped when put in main event positions against each other. Triple H comes to mind as a guy who has lots of them. Orton and Cena never had good chemistry. Bret Hart and even Shawn Michaels have failed to deliver some climatic stuff.

Warrior probably benefits by having a short reign on top. By the time you get to Halloween Havoc, it’s all gone. But there is something to that run.

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Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5364021)

The Street Profits should really be able to afford better gear by now.

Emperor Smeat 08-04-2020 11:20 PM

Not really since a good chunk of FS1's replays were like barely half of what AEW did for their Countdown specials.

That average range is decent for FS1 but once you add in demo stuff, ends up being closer to WWE Backstage tier level in terms of performance.

The content being very cheap for FOX is probably the only reason why they bothered to stick with it for as long as they have.


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