He should change his name to Ex Commentator

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/8Tmv4GEYwck" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Like how they ended with dismantling the set.

Supposedly he apologized for those comments in the past, same with Kevin Owens since he's in one of the videos but wouldn't be surprised if he got suspended.

2nd time those comments have resurfaced recently with the first being when the big wave of abuse and sexual harassment accusations was rocking wrestling. That's how Sammy got busted while Excalibur and Owens somehow managed to be left unscathed.

If people are going to dig thru old wrestling events of the last 5-20 years they are going find massive amounts of things to get outraged over.

I'm pretty sure Roderick Strong and Johnny Gargano were using the F word in indy feds a year before signing w/ WWE and in general PWG, ROH and TNA have tons of stuff that would be considered offensive. I say leave it all in the past and focus on the now, personally.

Lawler called Goldust a fag on Raw in 97.

The Rock called Kane part-retarded on RAW in 99. I think Lawler also called him The Big Red Retard at some point.

<iframe width="1004" height="753" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3bJS2KK5efY" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Idk about Gargano, but Strong didn't do that. AJ Styles used it pretty frequently though.

All people need to do is watch any early PWG show with the commentary on and they will hear the entire commentary team say some racist shit anytime a black person is in the ring. Obviously they were doing it for shock value but it was still stupid and ignorant as fuck.

Pretty surprised he's still doing AEW commentary tbh. He hasn't improved at all since he got there even though he's working with legends every week. I find him pretty annoying. Take him out, put Tazz in, and my interest goes up a lot.

Jerry Lawler's output during the Attitude days was just constant smut. I'd say about 75% of what he said on any given night was closer to the bone than Rhiannon.

I watch back and it constantly blows my mind. Just watch literally any women's match from 98-2002

lol yes he did

https://wallsofjerichoholic.blogspot...omophobia.html

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/zacksabrejr?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@zacksabrejr</a> I apologize for calling you the Fword but I don't apologize for anything else I said. Tomorrow this ends. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChampStrong?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChampStrong</a></p>&mdash; Roderick Strong (@roderickstrong) <a href="https://twitter.com/roderickstrong/status/706030676148101120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NXT Champion Johnny Gargano vs. Universal Champion Seth Rollins in AIW in 2008. The first 1:03 seconds show Johnny calling Seth &quot;pretty gay&quot; then grabbing his penis repeatedly while asking Seth if he likes it, and if he's looking at it. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NXT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NXT</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://t.co/UhdqGYbruF">https://t.co/UhdqGYbruF</a> …</p>&mdash; Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1117596798053384194?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm sure this one will bounce back at some point

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/cgNpNDYVU-I" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

My point is, I don't think people should 'cancel wrestlers' for saying stupid shit in promos from the past era.

Focus on the here and now, things have changed.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imagine paying $400 for this. <a href="https://t.co/HOkp3GZrkI">https://t.co/HOkp3GZrkI</a></p>&mdash; Matt Degnan (@degnan_matt) <a href="https://twitter.com/degnan_matt/status/1288585493807063040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not watching that, but I would absolutely do something like "I bet you $1,000 I can get Alexa Bliss to answer my request for a date."

Alexa is a class act.

Match goes a minute. Watch just for Sid's punches and Sid nearly paralyzing Lenny Lane.

Lol I remember that because we used to call this kid we played hockey against that. Oh the 90's.

Would have been much better if she had said what she was really thinking.:rofl:

The Owens and Excalibur stuff is just young people saying offensive things for attention. They're not racist. They just lacked the empathy and understanding of why using that word, even within that context is an extremely hurtful and insensitive thing to do. They should be made to apologize for any offense or pain they caused.

That's what should happen, but we live in 2020. Best case scenario is they are kept off TV for months. During this time they will be made to undergo sensitivity training despite the fact that they have already grown and matured as people at this point and would probably never even think of acting like that today, promo or not.

Figgy speaks the truth.

Yeah I don't necessarily think they should be suspended. But I feel like after Sammy got a month for comments on a podcast four years ago or whenever, AEW will feel like they have to discipline Excalibur for this.

If this was a few years ago, WWE may ignore this completely lol

People forget all the stupid shit they used to say and do back in their late teens and early twenties.

Remember like 10 years ago when the word "gay" was used as a verb like "that's so gay" and it being somewhat socially acceptable. I would NEVER say that nowadays, but I sure as shit did back in my early 20's.

I think the are Trump supporting wrestling fans who especially want to go after KO for his comments because he's pretty outspoken "woke" guy so him saying something awful 15 years ago is their way of having some sort of "gotcha"

Daniel Bryan said Sal Rinauro looked like a fag in Colt Cabana's Wrestling Road Diaries in 2009. Eventually someone will make a stink about that.

That was about twenty years ago but since they're all calling themselves queer again I say have at it, treat yourself to a "fag" or two.

A rumor around the net regarding why Excalibur's controversial videos suddenly popped up again is due to some vendetta an owner of several low tier sheets websites has against Tony Khan and AEW.

Supposedly the owner got into a big argument and/or got called out for running clickbait tabloid style sheets websites by Khan some time ago and ever since then, he's been constantly trying to dig up any dirt on the company as revenge.

The reason it spread as quickly as it did was due to him and several associated others targeting r/SquaredCircle via spamming antics and using his official sheet websites Twitter accounts and burner accounts to create a wildfire-like online incident for it.

Hahaha, no.

Considering the same person has done these antics before in the past and I'm aware of their bad rep as a sheets source, the rumor does have some weigh to it. Also doesn't help that this person was also boasting and trolling AEW on Twitter over it after it started spreading online.

Is it anyone we'd know?

Supposedly its the owner of Ringside News and other associated sites that's been behind it.

Doesn't excuse what Excalibur and Kevin Owens did in the past but the videos getting exposed again wasn't some sort of random cancel culture moment or something related to the recent wave of accusations that rocked wrestling and instead done out of spite.

Rumor of his involvement originated in /wooo or at least that was the first place I noticed it.

Meanwhile, the results of WWE's recent fiscal report came out and once again showed them to be greedy when it came to cutting talent costs (and trying to resign them back at lower deals) several months ago.

Not only were those savings tiny compared to where they really saved money in delaying work on a new HQ, they once again hit another record high in certain fiscal areas and blamed the loss of a Saudi show for decreases in other notable areas.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We'll have a full story later, but WWE profits for the quarter blew past analyst expectations. They figured $11.5 million to $12 million. Actual was $43.8 million. Lots of factors, but they saved tons in producing at PC and multiple shows together.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1288933584426815489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Steen and Excalibur did the thing. It looks equally as bad on Steen, who has no affiliation with AEW at all. It was stupid, they were young, times were different. Lots of attempting to emphasize "intent" behind words as opposed to the power of the words themselves, which is now considered a fool's errand. They should say "Sorry" and move on with their lives and try not to be dicks in the future. It's not a fucking anti-AEW conspiracy though. Fucking hell.

You might as well claim that the whole #SpeakingOut thing recently was a plan to sabotage AEW by trying to cancel Sammy Guevara.

This is why the AEW fandom is not only annoying, but fucking toxic honestly. Blame Excalibur for being a cunt if you need to turn the focus on anyone involved in AEW. He fucking did it.

Maybe i should join these cancel culture fuckers and call up Home Depot and get this guy i know from HS fired cause he called me a dyke at least a couple times a week.

Both have apologized for it in the past which is why that also got brought up around the net when the videos resurfaced again. Owens apologized for it on one of Lillian Garcia's podcast shows and Excalibur on one of Jericho's podcast shows.

The rest of your post is pure gibberish and just another occasion by you to go on a huge rant on AEW. You used to do the same exact thing with Eli Drake when he was your most hated thing on these forums. Only reason you stopped with him was because he suddenly started working for NWA which wasn't on your shit list for wrestling despite nothing about him really changing from his time in Impact.

All these claims you have about AEW fandom being toxic can easily be turned around to you considering how you've been acting around here for months.

It's good they apologized. Both were assholes for doing it.

No, it's not gibberish. What's gibberish is you bringing up Eli Drake (wtf?). You just don't like being criticized for being a sycophant. If Dave Meltzer said that COVID-19 was created in a lab by the OWE guys because AEW didn't want to give them eight trillion dollars, even though they offered them six trillion, because they wanted two trillion to cure puppy homelessness -- you'd gladly give it the time of day.

No, I'd wonder a lot more what conspiracy theories websites or personalities he started to become a fan of if he ever mentioned something like that.

What's with you and always bringing up Meltzer towards me as if that's meant to be some sort of insult or if I'm a Meltzer sheep like you've insulated in the past. There has been a bunch of stuff about Meltzer I haven't liked about him over the years but that doesn't downplay him being a major reporter in wrestling. Same for Mike Johnson with PWInsider and issues I've had with him over the years as well.

I canceled my sub to F4W.

For all the grief I get because of Meltzer bias and other similar loony views, I've never had a sub with F4W.

Get all my sheet news from either the free stuff the Observer posts on their website and Youtube channel and other places that post their paid content. Plus Triple A loaning me his F4W sub for Observer Newsletter stuff after /wooo started to become a bit unreliable with posting some of the stuff I needed for the Frontpage.

Sure its wrong but nobody here ever really complained about it either.

You always take everything Meltzer says at face value. For example, this stuff is absolute horse-shit and you're talking about it like it's got any credence, when anyone can immediately determine it is bullshit. I'm pretty sure you reported the Kenny Omega/Japan stuff too, which was also obviously shit. And just recently Triple H being a piece of shit while leaving off the AEW side.

You're biased, and that's fine. But you're going to get called out on it when it crosses into ridiculousness. It's ridiculous to assume that a clip that buries Excalibur and KEVIN OWENS is out there specifically to fuck over AEW.

I'm subscribed to F4W Online just for Bryan and Vinny's Reto Raw/Nitro/Superstars. So funny.