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Hopefully he will just be contained to his Naomi and Legion of Superheroes books...

Maybe he'll take over the Robin title and rapidly age Damian Wayne up

Naomi has existed in DC for almost 3 years now and they've yet to clarify what her powers actually are...classic Bendis. I remember before the first issue where he gave this interview saying he hoped one day people would look at the scope of what he is doing with Naomi the same way they do Kirby and the New Gods.

Having read Naomi I can't tell you WTF he was talking about.

Maybe the TV Show will explain it all before he does

I oddly like Naomi but I don't know why.

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5507237)

***BREAKING****

***Excellent News***

Brian Michael Bendis is leaving Justice League after the March comic, concluding his horrible run with issue 74.

Whar happenned in issue 74?

We'll find out in March...

Yeah, I totally misunderstood your post. Somehow I thought it meant issue 74 was exceptionally shit.

Cheers.

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5507250)

But where is he going is the question to fear...

Bendis has announced HBO has hired him to write an adult cartoon version of "The Legion of Superheroes"

Haven't read any of his Legion stuff to see how he mangled them.... though I have never been super into them I guess... enjoyed bits of Mark Waid's reboot and also their appearances in Geoff John's Superman run and the New Krypton story...

Always super curious to check out their "heyday"....

Justice Incarnate has been leaning towards being a sequel to Multiversity while also setting up the next Crisis for a while, but today it went full on into Multiversity sequel mode as it ended with

SPOILER: show

is that not some endgame shit? not "in namesake" like the movies, but isn't The Empty Hand really just

SPOILER: show

. That's according to Grant Morrison anyhoo.

Yep @ Drave

I didn't think DC would do another Crisis storyline after Death Metal was basically 'the anti-crisis, everything happened' story...but I DO like the set up a lot for where they *seem* to be going

This is the current DC mythology, as I understand it and also where I think this is all headed...

Years ago The Creator/Presence created life
'The Hands' were tasked by the Presence with creating universes and multiverses

https://i.postimg.cc/TYyBgsvb/The-Hands-0001.jpg

In an old Swamp Thing story, The Great Darkness was first mentioned. It was shown as interacting with the Presence, touching hands and then retreating forever.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/upl...942-gebfd5.png

There was a big Legion of Superheroes miniseries in the 80s called 'The Great Darkness Saga' which centered around Darkseid awaking in the 30th Century after losing to Orion in battle centuries before. Darkseid was referred to as 'The Great Darkness'

https://static3.cbrimages.com/wordpr...ga-display.jpg

Death Metal was all about making the previous crises into one overlapping story. It revealed the real reason behind the multiple crises that kept rebooting the multiverse was Perpetua. Perpetua was a rogue member of 'The Hands'. Perpetua created the Monitor and Anti-Monitor. She was the whisper in the ear of Superboy Prime for Infinite Crisis, the whisper in the ear of Darkseid that led to Final Crisis, the whisper in the ear of Barry Allen that led to Flashpoint. She wanted to keep the DC in a perpetual state of reboot, because the 'crisis energy' made her more and more powerful each time. Her goal was to one day become powerful enough to overthrow 'The Hands'. She was defeated.

https://i.postimg.cc/Xqnd3mKz/Perpetua.png

Now that everything matters and everything happened, it created a bit of a problem, as Darkseid is now all previous versions of himself, combined at once. He's never been so powerful.

https://i.postimg.cc/YC79PY3d/dar.jpg

All powerful Darkseid has become aware of something that exists outside of the Multiverse and has been dormant 'since before the first crisis'...The Great Darkness. Darkseid used The Flash running between universes to cause a crack in the multiverse, revealing the great darkness beyond.

https://i.postimg.cc/cCQW7kV0/GR.png

Justice Incarnate, a team of JL made up of members from throughout the Multiverse, and was formed in the series Multiversity to stop The Empty Hand, has decided to stop Darkseid from finding the multiversal crack and using it to absorb the power of the darkness...However, Darkseid is not the ONLY character in DC whose become aware of 'The Great Darkness' and the power it holds...

The Empty Hand
The Upside Down Man
Eclipso
Nekron

https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/...pters/6/21.jpg

First up, The Upside Down Man:
The Upside Down Man was formed when creation gave birth to Magic. The two first beings born of magic were from the bright light, Hecate, and from the dark side of Magic, the Upside-Down Man.

https://i.postimg.cc/FF2g7Cr1/UP.jpg

Next up, Eclipso:
Literally a fallen angel and holder of 'the heart of darkness' diamond, giving him many powers

https://i.postimg.cc/Tw504z2M/EC.jpg

Nekron:
The opposite of life and light in the DC Universe, the Lord of the Dead and Black Lanterns.

https://i.postimg.cc/d0pmr52W/nekron.jpg

And of course, The Empty Hand:
A being of total Darkness, he represents the hand of the reader when they close a book uninterested, and his goal is the opposite of Perpetua, she wanted DC in a constant state of reboot, The Empty Hand wants DC gone forever, no more stories left to be told. I wonder if he's meant to also be the opposite of 'The Hands' that create multiverses as well. I wonder if he comes from 'The Great Darkness' itself possibly.

https://i.postimg.cc/4NP6BfvH/Empty-Hand.jpg

So that is where things currently are, with Darkseid and The Empty Hand ready to battle one another for the crack in the multiverse. Nekron, Eclipso and The Upside Down Man haven't shown themselves...yet. But whomever wins, we know one thing is certain, 'The Great Darkness' is coming and it will almost certainly be the focus of the next CRISIS in the DCU.

Based on the old Legion of Superheroes story I mentioned towards the beginning of this post, my best guess as to what 'The Great Darkness' is...well I think that:

https://i.postimg.cc/yW4bjV0b/main-q...47378aea8c.jpg

However, there is still one more variable introduced in the recent DC series Infinite Frontier that has yet to come into play: Pariah

During the first crisis Pariah was a scientist who developed the rather horrible ability of being transported to each world in the multiverse before it was destroyed, forced to witness countless endings. Pariah appeared at the end of Infinite Frontier, eyes blacked out (possessed by The Great Darkness or maybe a servant of it perhaps), revealed he was in the Multiverse The Empty Hand had been feeding on for years, one that pre-dated the First Crisis. Pariah then transported The Flash into his own Earth. Pariah, as you can see below, has a rather different ending in mind for things in the DCU. Hmmm...

https://i.postimg.cc/9QWrgyXc/25.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/hPZHNBch/1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/rFwBhm6v/11.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/s2rKN6Qv/A.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CxDmJTK3/B.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/7ZMW1Gmv/C.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Gm1fsJPJ/D.jpg

But where is Bendis' Leviathan going to show up next?!?!

Just kidding.... sweet post.... haven't read any comics in a long time.... good to get the gist of it....

That was an amazing post Slik, thank you. Kinda feel like I read the DC Bible. I remember Pariah and his bit there at the end. I didn't have the entire backstory of everything else there, but I read every bit of the post.

This should be good!

Another new CWverse show potentially coming: "Justice U"

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The project, which is currently in development at The CW, sees John Diggle recruiting and educating "five young meta humans" to become heroes while they live at a university.

And the CW isn't profitable?

with what they pay in licensing fees i cant see how they could be

also now that tv is on its last leg cws model of selling shows into syndication isnt making what it used too and its never made money off its live airing because the ratings are too low for ad dollars to keep them afloat.

Plus they wrote Brandon Routh out of Legends of Tomorrow, so F them

First look at Batgirl from the upcoming movie:

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Clashes with whatever I think Keaton would be wearing but I like it. It does feel very CWverse though

It looks like my favorite Batgirl costume from the comics

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...kbjaiberdb.jpg

Clearly ripped straight from that

Well, whatever DC is building is certainly going to be interesting...DC just announced they are cancelling and killing off The Justice League with issue 75 (literally, killing off). Joshua Williamson, whose been crafting Infinite Frontier and Justice Incarnate that I've discussed above, will be taking over JL as headwriter for one, final issue:

https://i.postimg.cc/0N7809y2/image.jpg

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https://ew.com/books/inside-dcs-plan...stice-league/?

30 years ago, DC Comics killed Superman. From this far-off vantage point, we know that the Man of Steel got better eventually. But after being beaten to death by the monster Doomsday in the pages of Superman #75, Clark Kent was gone from DC comics for almost a full calendar year. His absence felt real.

This time, more than one hero will die. The current Justice League comic will come to an end with issue #75 (recognize that number?), a story that will see DC's greatest superheroes killed in battle against an unstoppable enemy. Yes, really — the Justice League is going to die.

"It's very serious," writer Joshua Williamson tells EW. "We want people to understand, this is serious and this is gonna have a major impact in the DCU moving forward. Three months later, there's still not gonna be a Justice League comic. It's gonna be a while, and that's gonna be a major part of what the DCU looks like after this story: There is no Justice League."

Williamson, who penned last year's Infinite Frontier event and the follow-up series Justice League Incarnate, is swooping in to bring this iteration of the comic to an explosive end that will take the epic over-story he's been building into its next chapter.

"Ever since Infinite Frontier #0, we've been building to this story," Williamson says. "Last year was a lot of fun and games, but when this story starts, it's the beginning of the third act. We're going to see things get darkest before the dawn. The Justice League gets called in to fight this Dark Army that's been building on the edge of the multiverse. They go up against this Dark Army and they lose."

"We'll get to see what the ramifications are of losing the Justice League," Williamson says. "You'll get to see how the new heroes react, how some of the heroes that have been around for a while react, you'll see how people on the ground react to this idea of the Justice League dying, and then you'll get to see how all the villains react. What happens when they know the Justice League is gone?"

That's all for the future, though. In and of itself, Justice League #75 will focus on the apocalyptic battle between the Justice League and the Dark Army in a dead multiverse. Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern (John Stewart), Martian Manhunter, Hawkgirl, Aquaman, Green Arrow, Black Canary, and Zatanna will embark on this mission — and only one will return to tell the rest of the universe what has happened.

Justice League #75 hits comic stores on April 19.

https://i.postimg.cc/Cx3h8RYQ/image-3.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/vHWcGRnn/FJe-O9-P2ag-AIo-NYc.jpg

Guess it's gonna be All New All Different.

Except this is the multiverse and ofc they will be back, just like the McRib.

Forget about all of this

LOCK JAW, THERE IS A NEW ISSUE OF SAGA OUT TODAY

Holy poop I forgot!!! Will check it out when home from work

This seems kinda shit.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mark Stutzman McDonalds Batman Returns cup art. Upscaled in all its glory. 1992. <a href="https://t.co/4HY6ImmURi">pic.twitter.com/4HY6ImmURi</a></p>— Jackson Boren (@JacksonBoren) <a href="https://twitter.com/JacksonBoren/status/1487615175934889985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I like that Batman is really Hul Kogan.

He kills Darkseid and just says "HH".

Brother.

Latest DC happenings from Justice Incarnate to prep for the Death of the Justice League and the next Crisis they are building to...

Darkseid underestimated The Empty Hand / The Great Darkness...

https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/...pters/4/22.jpg

https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/...pters/4/23.jpg

https://readcomicsonline.ru/uploads/...pters/4/24.jpg

Damb @ Darseid being punk'd

how dare they forcibly put something in MY hand :|