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Mr. Nerfect 02-24-2015 10:36 AM

Bray Wyatt's relationship to The Authority has always intrigued me. After he defeated Kane in the Ring of Fire Match, he took Kane and then suddenly we had the Director of Operations. Daniel Bryan was a constant thorn in The Authority's side, but then he found himself a target of Wyatt. As did CM Punk (before The Shield were specifically sent in him to neutralize him). Then he intervened on behalf of Seth Rollins this year.

If The Authority has a problem with you, Bray Wyatt ends up cleaning it up if their usual methods don't get it done. I'm surprised more of a kayfabe link between Triple H and Bray Wyatt -- if not one that is loose and only called upon occasionally due to the nature of both men -- hasn't been established.

These undertones would have fed brilliantly into my ideal Rock vs. Bray Wyatt match at WrestleMania this year.

Mr. Nerfect 02-24-2015 10:37 AM

I can't see Taker appearing in Wyatt's corner, but I would not be opposed to seeing The Wyatt Family reunite and carry The Undertaker to the back after Wyatt vanquishes him at WrestleMania.

Mr. Nerfect 02-24-2015 10:39 AM

I also wanted to see Roddy Piper host a Piper's Pit around WrestleMania time and ask Kane where the monster is, and why he has become such a corporate lackey. But he asks it in such a way that Kane actually snaps out of it and Tombstones Piper, before leaving The Authority. In the wake of The Undertaker's defeat, a face Kane taking up the fight against Bray Wyatt -- whilst obviously not their first clash -- would be a perfectly fine story to tell. Especially if it leads to Wyatt destroying both Brothers of Destruction and solidifying himself as The New Face of Fear.

Simple Fan 02-24-2015 10:50 AM

Be nice to see Sting put him over to maybe at Summerslam.

Heisenberg 02-24-2015 11:20 AM

http://shop.wwe.com/Lana-Standee/W09...art=5&cgid=New

Lana Standee, who's buying it?

GD 02-24-2015 11:48 AM

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JimmyMess 02-24-2015 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4589644)
Bray Wyatt's relationship to The Authority has always intrigued me. After he defeated Kane in the Ring of Fire Match, he took Kane and then suddenly we had the Director of Operations. Daniel Bryan was a constant thorn in The Authority's side, but then he found himself a target of Wyatt. As did CM Punk (before The Shield were specifically sent in him to neutralize him). Then he intervened on behalf of Seth Rollins this year.

If The Authority has a problem with you, Bray Wyatt ends up cleaning it up if their usual methods don't get it done. I'm surprised more of a kayfabe link between Triple H and Bray Wyatt -- if not one that is loose and only called upon occasionally due to the nature of both men -- hasn't been established.

These undertones would have fed brilliantly into my ideal Rock vs. Bray Wyatt match at WrestleMania this year.

they probably haven't put any of that together in reality. Which is comical, because it's a pretty neat idea.

Big Vic 02-24-2015 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4589629)
Was expecting the same thing. Cena to be all "Rusev is the better man," Hulk to be like "No way, brother, you need to get back out there," then Rusev beats down Hogan when Cena's not there, and Cena comes roaring back to fight for America out of respect to Hulk.

Unless Rusev defeats Cena again they will completely kill his momentum.

Big Vic 02-24-2015 12:52 PM

I guess if "CENA HAS TO WIN" he could do so by DQ or Count out.

Emperor Smeat 02-24-2015 02:40 PM

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Droford 02-24-2015 03:58 PM

WWE sent me a $25 coupon (no min order) for wwe shop for being a from the beginning subscriber to the network which is pretty cool. Might get a shirt

Droford 02-24-2015 04:16 PM

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That doesn't look like Mark Henry

Emperor Smeat 02-24-2015 04:21 PM

Quote:

Ring of Honor and Samoa Joe have been in talks for dates coming up and The LAW has been told a deal has been made between the two.

As of this writing Joe is scheduled for the next set of television tapings on March 7th in Baltimore along with March 13th in Milwaukee, March 14th in Chicago Ridge, the Supercard of Honor card on March 27th over WrestleMania weekend as well as the April 4th television tapings in San Antonio and April 25th live event in Minneapolis, Minnesota ...

There were budget issues internally but through other non-exclusive talent not being available it made way for ROH to come to terms with Joe.

Innovator 02-24-2015 04:36 PM

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Lock Jaw 02-24-2015 04:38 PM

Greatest moment in wrestling history

Simple Fan 02-24-2015 04:56 PM

Bummer Joe would have been awsome in NXT.

Emperor Smeat 02-24-2015 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4589779)
Greatest moment in wrestling history

Still don't get why the WWE felt the need to just toss that away a couple of days later.

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Lock Jaw 02-24-2015 05:13 PM

Because they are dumb.

Metaphorical neg rep for posting that gif.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-24-2015 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by im just a fan (Post 4589785)
Bummer Joe would have been awsome in NXT.

He just agreed to do four shows. It's not like he signed a long term deal.

drave 02-24-2015 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4589778)
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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4589779)
Greatest moment in wrestling history

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4589795)
Still don't get why the WWE felt the need to just toss that away a couple of days later.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view8/466...hristian-o.gif

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4589796)
Because they are dumb.

Metaphorical neg rep for posting that gif.

You know....... something something living in the past :mad: something.

Lock Jaw 02-24-2015 06:02 PM

Still hate Orton forever for that. :foc:

Emperor Smeat 02-24-2015 06:16 PM

Found the thread about that show: http://www.tpwwforums.com//showthread.php?t=112874

Looking back, that would have been a perfect opportunity to make Orton the top heel of Smackdown and Christian as its top face. Instead ended up as a failed attempt at making Orton the "Cena" of Smackdown and Christan as the WWE's biggest whiner.

VSG 02-24-2015 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4589815)
Still hate Orton forever for that. :foc:

Get the smiley right :fu:

VSG 02-24-2015 06:27 PM

Nah jk. I miss :foc: too :'(

rad dggy dg 02-24-2015 06:29 PM

kane should wear some zubaz

remember zubaz everyone

rad dggy dg 02-24-2015 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4589758)

holy death metal

Mr. Nerfect 02-24-2015 06:53 PM

Christian got to win the World Title as a babyface. That's something Chris Jericho never got to do.

Mr. Nerfect 02-24-2015 06:58 PM

Still, that Orton/Christian stuff was fucking terrible. I mean, the matches were great, but a real chance to make Christian a guy worth caring about was flushed away. Why not have Christian win their first match with a roll-up. It would have fit the styles both guys wrestle, and it would have allowed Christian to look like a crafty and able champion, whilst there would still be some question as to which Superstar is more dominant.

Sheamus and Mark Henry were getting involved in the title scene around this time, so you could have had some matches between Christian and those guys. A Fatal 4-Way could have allowed Christian to again defeat Orton, without actually pinning or submitting him. By this point, you begin to know whether or not Christian is working as a face champion. If things aren't cooking too well, you do the title switch, then have Christian turn heel for the rematch to steal the title back. Diesel is brought in as Christian's bodyguard for the next big match against Orton and helps Christian again defeat The Viper. Cue a blow-off inside Hell in a Cell, with Orton winning back the title.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-24-2015 07:02 PM

Wasn't Christian the only person to ever win the title based on the "Disqualification can cause a title change" rule? That's something.

Mercenary 02-24-2015 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4589856)
Wasn't Christian the only person to ever win the title based on the "Disqualification can cause a title change" rule? That's something.

The Giant at Halloween Havoc. Won in a match where the title could be changed by disqualification. The Giant defeated Hogan by disqualification when Jimmy Hart interfered.

Seth82 02-25-2015 10:36 AM

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erickman 02-25-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth82 (Post 4590129)

good ole easy e I wish sting would bring him back post wrestlemania to take over raw.

Simple Fan 02-25-2015 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erickman (Post 4590136)
good ole easy e I wish sting would bring him back post wrestlemania to take over raw.

Vince could bring him back after Sting beats HHH. Eventually feel like Sting wouldn't approve of Eric.

CSL 02-25-2015 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4589779)
Greatest moment in wrestling history

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4589795)
Still don't get why the WWE felt the need to just toss that away a couple of days later.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4589796)
Because they are dumb.

Metaphorical neg rep for posting that gif.

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Rammsteinmad 02-25-2015 03:07 PM

Regardless of how the reigns were, Christian will still go down in history as a two-time world champion, so I'm happy we at least get that.

(Three-time if you count the ECW title, which nobody does. Four-time if you count the TNA title, which nobody does).

Innovator 02-25-2015 03:22 PM

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Emperor Smeat 02-25-2015 05:06 PM

Might be looking at one of the worst Mania seasons for RAW ratings if things hold up. The good news was the 3rd hour managed to beat Better Call Saul and didn't have the usual 3rd hour decline.

The bad news is ratings are still down compared to last year and RAW keeps struggling to reach a 3 in ratings. Usually RAW holds steady in the 3s to 4s range this time of year or gets better as the weeks go by but the opposite is happening this year.

Rammsteinmad 02-25-2015 05:19 PM

That's coz WWE sucks so bad at the moment.

I've been a fan since 1993, and up until about a year ago I watched religiously. Every show. Now; I watch Raw every week, but skim through it all in about an hour. I watch Main Event if there's a noteworthy match, and even that I skim through, and I haven't actually watched Smackdown for a few months now.

WWE is just so unbearable at the moment. I can't not follow the product as it's been such a huge part of my entire life, but God it is just so bad right now. The stories are all mostly shite and it's impossible to really "care" for anyone since pushes come and go and everything is so inconsistent right now.

It's Wrestlemania season right now and I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about anything. Not interested in Lesnar/Reigns. Not interested in Wyatt/Undertaker. Not interested in Sting/Triple H.

I don't wanna "lose" pro wrestling and the WWE, but damn it's so hard to follow and enjoy the product lately. :(

Poit 02-25-2015 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4589856)
Wasn't Christian the only person to ever win the title based on the "Disqualification can cause a title change" rule? That's something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercenary (Post 4589947)
The Giant at Halloween Havoc. Won in a match where the title could be changed by disqualification. The Giant defeated Hogan by disqualification when Jimmy Hart interfered.

I think Ziggler's first WHC was via DQ. I think it was something like he could win the title via DQ, and Edge would be DQed if he used the spear?

Rammsteinmad 02-25-2015 05:51 PM

Wasn't he just awarded the title by Vickie Guerrero?

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-25-2015 05:59 PM

Awarded because Edge used the spear behind the refs back when it was banned. It was a pinfall victory by Edge though.

Maluco 02-25-2015 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4590244)
That's coz WWE sucks so bad at the moment.

I've been a fan since 1993, and up until about a year ago I watched religiously. Every show. Now; I watch Raw every week, but skim through it all in about an hour. I watch Main Event if there's a noteworthy match, and even that I skim through, and I haven't actually watched Smackdown for a few months now.

WWE is just so unbearable at the moment. I can't not follow the product as it's been such a huge part of my entire life, but God it is just so bad right now. The stories are all mostly shite and it's impossible to really "care" for anyone since pushes come and go and everything is so inconsistent right now.

It's Wrestlemania season right now and I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about anything. Not interested in Lesnar/Reigns. Not interested in Wyatt/Undertaker. Not interested in Sting/Triple H.

I don't wanna "lose" pro wrestling and the WWE, but damn it's so hard to follow and enjoy the product lately. :(

Couldn't have stated how I feel any better than this. :y:

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-25-2015 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4590244)
That's coz WWE sucks so bad at the moment.

I've been a fan since 1993, and up until about a year ago I watched religiously. Every show. Now; I watch Raw every week, but skim through it all in about an hour. I watch Main Event if there's a noteworthy match, and even that I skim through, and I haven't actually watched Smackdown for a few months now.

WWE is just so unbearable at the moment. I can't not follow the product as it's been such a huge part of my entire life, but God it is just so bad right now. The stories are all mostly shite and it's impossible to really "care" for anyone since pushes come and go and everything is so inconsistent right now.

It's Wrestlemania season right now and I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about anything. Not interested in Lesnar/Reigns. Not interested in Wyatt/Undertaker. Not interested in Sting/Triple H.

I don't wanna "lose" pro wrestling and the WWE, but damn it's so hard to follow and enjoy the product lately. :(

NXT is tonight. :y:

Rammsteinmad 02-25-2015 06:06 PM

NXT falls under the same category as Raw. I watch it every week, but skim through most of it. That's mainly just due to lack of time, and since it's not "canon" WWE. If that makes sense. But yeah NXT is the best stuff coming out of WWE at the moment.

Mr. Nerfect 02-25-2015 07:48 PM

I feel the same way. I was so excited for the WWE post-WrestleMania XXX too. I really feel that you should be able to look at what comes out of one WrestleMania, look at the next, and see the story of the year. Here is the WrestleMania card I was looking forward to seeing:

WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Daniel Bryan

Triple Threat Match
Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns

The Game vs. The Icon
Triple H vs. Sting

The Rock vs. Bray Wyatt

Intercontinental Championship
Cesaro (c) vs. John Cena

Divas Championship
Special Guest Referee: Stephanie McMahon
AJ Lee (c) vs. Paige

Ladder Match for the WWE Tag Team Championship
The Usos (c) vs. The Wyatt Family vs. Dolph Ziggler & Kofi Kingston vs. Jack Swagger & Stardust

United States Championship
The Miz (c) vs. Sami Zayn

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Everybody else fighting in a Battle Royal that actually means something after Cesaro has done something with his career

But I guess I prefer story over stars, as that other thread questioned. Nothing on this WrestleMania card is really shaping up to be that epic. Well, Triple H vs. Sting exists on both, Cena is fighting for a mid-card title against a foreign heel beast and Bray Wyatt is taking on a legendary part-timer; but I'd prefer Cesaro to Rusev, Zayn to Mizdow and The Rock to Taker.

Simple Fan 02-25-2015 08:18 PM

Watched the Interview a couple times last weekend and Francos character reminded me a lot of The Miz.

Mr. Nerfect 02-25-2015 08:23 PM

Didn't a football player count the fall for Edge?

Mr. Nerfect 02-25-2015 08:25 PM

I remember thinking that the time was right around here for a Drew McIntyre face turn. Vickie Guerrero was abusing her power as the acting General Manager of SmackDown, and she made a target out of Kelly Kelly. Drew standing up for her would have made perfect sense. Edge was set to face Alberto Del Rio. Dolph Ziggler vs. Drew McIntyre would have been something...interesting. Ziggler vs. Morrison became a lot of fun between two rising stars, but it was sort of slapped together.

Dark One 02-25-2015 09:29 PM

Just watched the Daniel Bryan Wrestlemania 30 follow-along on the Network today during lunch, and now I'm even more pissed off about him not being in the main event.

Like, the crowd fucking loves him. Seemingly everyone in the business loves him. His story was so good last year and would be so good this year.

Instead we're getting a guy half the crowd hates and who has two facial expressions against Our Father of Suplex.

I just don't get why they're so resistant to it. I do understand wanting to try and make a new star, but this may go the way of Orton's first world championship reign that took years for him to recover from.

I'm trying to think of another time they've so obviously went against crowd popularity, but it's not like they ever bumped Steve Austin out of the title picture for Marc Mero in 97 or 98.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-26-2015 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4590294)
Didn't a football player count the fall for Edge?

Yep, Clay Matthews.

GD 02-26-2015 03:48 AM

I vividly remember this storyline

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Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 4590380)
Just watched the Daniel Bryan Wrestlemania 30 follow-along on the Network today during lunch, and now I'm even more pissed off about him not being in the main event.

Like, the crowd fucking loves him. Seemingly everyone in the business loves him. His story was so good last year and would be so good this year.

Instead we're getting a guy half the crowd hates and who has two facial expressions against Our Father of Suplex.

I just don't get why they're so resistant to it. I do understand wanting to try and make a new star, but this may go the way of Orton's first world championship reign that took years for him to recover from.

I'm trying to think of another time they've so obviously went against crowd popularity, but it's not like they ever bumped Steve Austin out of the title picture for Marc Mero in 97 or 98.

Yep. Roman Reigns hasn't really done too much worth remembering as a singles star. He was bad-ass with The Shield, but that whole dynamic has changed now. Reigns' best story for Mania this year would have been going against Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose in a Triple Threat, as I have supported many times. And Reigns should have won that match. And it should have been treated as a HUGE deal. And when Seth Rollins won the WWE World Title from Daniel Bryan using Money in the Bank, you better believe that Reigns would have been in the title conversation. But WrestleMania doesn't feel like the right time.

If the company had taken a chance and put the WWE Title on him at Money in the Bank, and had him be the guy to drop it to Brock Lesnar, then at least this match could have the story of being revenge for Reigns. The story is so...blocked in.

Daniel Bryan's WrestleMania position would have been an organic one. A WrestleMania-to-WrestleMania story, in many a sense, and Bryan didn't even need to get pinned to lose the title to set it up. Fuck, Bryan could have made Reigns himself at SummerSlam or something.

Innovator 02-26-2015 10:04 AM

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Big Vic 02-26-2015 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4590248)
Wasn't he just awarded the title by Vickie Guerrero?

I honestly consider Ziggler a 1 time WHC champ.

Big Vic 02-26-2015 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4590563)
Yep. Roman Reigns hasn't really done too much worth remembering as a singles star. He was bad-ass with The Shield, but that whole dynamic has changed now. Reigns' best story for Mania this year would have been going against Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose in a Triple Threat, as I have supported many times.

Why would Reigns and Ambrose want to fight each other?

Innovator 02-26-2015 10:38 AM

Shout out to this kid:

SPOILER: show
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Droford 02-26-2015 11:43 AM



probably the greatest crowd pop that never happened

Dark One 02-26-2015 12:24 PM

Daniel Bryan should snap and become a badass roundhouse-kick machine, leading to him interrupting every match at Wrestlemania and roundhouse kicking all competitors to death.

Screaming "ROADHOUSE" afterwards is optional but strongly suggested.

Emperor Smeat 02-26-2015 01:39 PM

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Shadrick 02-26-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 4590682)
Daniel Bryan should snap and become a badass roundhouse-kick machine, leading to him interrupting every match at Wrestlemania and roundhouse kicking all competitors to death.

Screaming "ROADHOUSE" afterwards is optional but strongly suggested.

This is fucking stupid.


It is NOT optional.

slik 02-26-2015 02:24 PM

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Rammsteinmad 02-26-2015 02:30 PM

Forgot this was on Youtube. Johnny Kickpads at the beginning might look familiar to some of you.

SPOILER: show

Dave Brookside = Rammsteinmad

SPOILER: show
Can't sell Stunners to save my life.


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Emperor Smeat 02-26-2015 03:21 PM

Dirtsheets with a side of depressing stuff:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer
[Samoa] Joe has also had an offer, or at least confirmed opening interest and conversation, from Lucha Underground, from AAA, and an apparently solid offer from New Japan, which may be New Japan using him outright, although we’ve been told more likely sending him to bolster NOAH at first and eventually move over. There is also what was described as active talks from WWE, which is why right now his long-term plans are very much open.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer
This is what we do know. Lesnar flew into Nashville and was there when the show started. There was a business disagreement between Lesnar and Vince McMahon, related to negotiations regarding Lesnar signing a new contract. Speculation that the negotiations included Lesnar wanting to do a UFC fight while under his next WWE contract were not part of this at all. It was only related to the offer and terms of the new contact itself.

The situation, which was not settled at press time, could be settled quickly and perhaps even easily but right now the two sides are at a key impasse related to the new deal and neither side wants to be the one to back down.

What that disagreement was over has been kept secret, but we were told it was all business and had nothing at all to do with current or future creative. The business dispute related to why he didn’t appear on the show, and the company was forced to change its scripting. Lesnar left the arena while the show was going on and flew home. There were reports that he flew on his private jet, but that’s incorrect. When Lesnar comes to WWE shows, the WWE provides him a private jet from his home and back to his home as one of the stipulations of his contract.

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Originally Posted by Observer
At the end of the day, my thought is that this is not so much financial, because it will be next to impossible to prove that Brooks’ allegations against Amann cost him any money–since WWE never dropped him. The object is more to get Punk to settle and publicly apologize for what he said, or for WWE to get a public “win” over Punk because Punk bettered them badly in round one in the court of public opinion, and then waltzed over to the company they are most compared to and most paranoid about those comparisons with.

If he apologized for anything about the Amman story, the WWE could take it as a victory and throw into question everything he said about Paul Levesque, which is the real key to all this. Brooks painted Levesque as someone incompetent at his job, who couldn’t even remember basic dates of tours that anyone in wrestling would know without thinking. He also painted McMahon as an out-of-touch old man.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Michael Bennett & Matt Taven are expected to get a major push shortly here. Hiroshi Tanahashi is a big supporter of Bennett. The impression is that they may get a tag team push but that Bennett and Maria would eventually get a big singles push. You’ll be able to tell by the booking, as when Bennett & Taven team and lose, if they split who loses the falls, then that says one thing, but if Taven is the one asked to lose, that will confirm it as Gedo comes from the school where the winner and loser of the fall in tag matches are done for a reason.

Those two (plus Maria) are the ROH stars NJPW wants for the next Japan trip.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer
The company has been in preliminary talks with both AXS and Spike. I don’t know how serious either are, past the point that they, in fact, both have taken place. ROH made a pitch to AXS and I don’t know that anything happened from there, as it’s nothing anyone is talking about. My impression is AXS is happy with New Japan. AXS, when it was HD-Net, aired ROH from 2009 to 2011, when HD-Net opted not to renew the deal. With Spike, the sides are talking right now although it’s premature to say they are serious, since key people in both companies weren’t even aware of the talks, but we have since gotten confirmation that talks are taking place. The idea would be a Friday night show that would air about once per month, with Spike having a regular rotation of Bellator, Glory, Al Haymon’s boxing and pro wrestling. That would be a big coup for exposure, since Spike is in 83 percent of the country and Sinclair Broadcasting syndicated stations make up 37.5% of the country (ROH has a few non-Sinclair stations so they are in close to 40%).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer
One of the reasons the frustration level is even above usual levels here is that the talent was together for the U.K. tour a few weeks ago and were talking to each other and realized that there are no house shows planned, and no PPV shows planned (past the taped ones that just took place that nobody actually buys and are only done to fulfill existing international television contracts) and since almost everyone except the few top guys are paid by appearance, there was a realization that almost everyone was going to earn substantially less in 2015. There’s also the recognition that all TNA is doing at this point is staving off dying as opposed to before, when, whether true or not, the idea was that they were at least trying to grow.

Between last year's attempt as cutbacks and the new tv deal, TNA is still facing serious financial problems.

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Originally Posted by Observer
The show was built around confusing all the fans who wanted to cheer Orton. It kept people into the show longer, but thus far seems to have weakened Orton’s babyface turn. Funny, I learned so much from that botched Del Rio babyface turn, and the people here must think it was cool. I guess forgetting the part that Del Rio’s babyface turn that they counted out was so effective they had to turn him back and he wound up in obscurity. But I now can’t wait for the Mayweather-Pacquiao buildup because everyone learns from WWE, and now they are going to have the promoter treat them both like they are first graders, make them meekly shut up, and talk them into being best friends four weeks before their fight because it’ll swerve the audience, and you need that to top 3 million buys.

Meltzer lashing out on the idiotic booking the WWE did this week (and in general since going into the Rumble).

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Originally Posted by ROH
Ring of Honor Wrestling® (“ROH”) is happy to announce that we will once again partner with New Japan Pro-Wrestling® to present three must-see super shows for pro wrestling fans.

Details available at this time include the dates & locations of the three events. ROH & NJPW stars will be announced at a later date.

WAR OF THE WORLDS ’15 will be held Wednesday, May 13th, 2015 in Philadelphia at the 2300 Arena, formerly known worldwide as the ECW Arena. Tickets are on sale now for Ringside members now and go on sale to the general public Friday, February 27th @ 10am Est. Ringside members can get their pre sale code here. Tickets are on sale exclusively through the 2300 Arena, and are available by clicking here.

GLOBAL WARS ’15 will be held on Friday, May 15th and Saturday, May 16th, 2015 at the Ted Reeve Arena, located in Toronto, Ontario. Tickets are on sale now for both events, and are available here.

The COO of ROH Joe Koff when asked about the events said: "We're very excited to once again bring the stars of New Japan to our great fans. New Japan Pro-Wrestling is a fantastic partner with exceptional wrestlers and we always strive to give our fans an experience of a lifetime. With these three stacked events, showcasing the best wrestlers in the world, we will do just that.”

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Originally Posted by Observer
"With Roman Reigns cleanly pinning Daniel Bryan in what was a hell of a main event on Fast Lane, it’s very clear that Vince McMahon is still planning on the scenario he’s probably had for probably one year, with Reigns beating Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania.

Fan reaction at the Royal Rumble, and since the Royal Rumble, largely indicated that scenario was backfiring. Forgetting about Bryan, and forgetting about skill level or being ready or even talking ability, Reigns is nowhere near as over and doesn’t feel like he has anywhere near the momentum of the babyface who is going to chase and win the title on the biggest show of the year.

What’s notable is that 21 years ago, a younger Vince McMahon was in the same position, choosing between his own hand-picked next star of the company, tall bodybuilder Lex Luger, or one of the best in-ring performers of that time, Bret Hart. Historically, Luger was far closer to what McMahon liked his champions to look like. But Hart was more popular among the fans. Faced with the crowd reaction in the laboratory setting of a big show, the fans liked Hart more than Luger when they squared off. The WrestleMania original plan, Luger beating Yokozuna to win the title, was changed to Hart. Luger’s momentum was lost, and a little over two years later, working as part of a mid-card tag team he walked out on the company. Hart became the company’s biggest star, before he was gone more than three years later.

This time, McMahon went with the original plan. It was acknowledged that Reigns wasn’t over like he should have been. So they went to work. They brought in his cousin, Dwayne Johnson, to make his Royal Rumble win even bigger. But the miscalculation of putting Bryan in the Rumble made the whole scenario backfire, and even the endorsement of Johnson didn’t matter.

Part of a longer article regarding Vince going all out with Reigns, Bryan's depressing star future, and the WWE being hell bent on defeating the fans this year. Link to the article below.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc..._on_fast_lane/

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Originally Posted by Observer
While it is about looks for men to a degree, you will never see an unattractive woman with a bad genetic body, no matter how talented they are technically, in a WWE ring. Sara Amato, who trains the women in NXT, I would not call unattractive at all, yet she was deemed not attractive enough to be anything but be a trainer, even though she was a more talented wrestler than almost all on the roster. Melissa Anderson is probably the furthest thing from unattractive, yet she never did nor is she likely to ever get a WWE look and it was said to be because she didn’t have the right look. One woman who was cut by WWE, and ended up having a successful long career in TNA, said she was told when released by John Laurinaitis, even though she was doing well as a wrestler, that, “We’re looking for tens and you’re not that.” Others at the recruiting level were told that while WWE no longer would allow their performers to pose in Playboy, what they are mainly looking for is women physically attractive enough to do so.

Related to the article regarding the recent AJ/Steph Twitter stuff and likely AJ's future with the company. Link to that article below.
http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircl..._tweetsreturn/


Some other sheet news include Sasha Banks confirming scanning for WWE 2k16 has started and she's in the game and Rey Mysterio's WWE tenure is almost over now that he got moved to the website's Alumni section.

Heisenberg 02-26-2015 05:40 PM

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...l_20120925.pngThankful for witnessing the peak of Raven back in the day

Jura 02-26-2015 06:13 PM

It seems like if the WWE doesn't get cheers then they could still fight through the boos but if the audience just sat quietly or stood up with their backs turned when someone they didn't like wins then I think WWE would scramble to please the fans.

Jura 02-26-2015 06:14 PM

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GD 02-26-2015 06:42 PM

lol at this video

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Lock Jaw 02-26-2015 06:51 PM

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SlickyTrickyDamon 02-26-2015 07:04 PM

WWE sent an email saying that as of March 1st every WWE Hall of Fame Induction ceremony will be available on demand the WWE Network.

Lock Jaw 02-26-2015 07:27 PM

Here are some more pictures

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-yXjd2XEAAmhtB.png:medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-yZvxZVIAAoqhq.jpg:medium

Lock Jaw 02-26-2015 07:28 PM

http://i.imgur.com/PnT1ESI.jpg

Vince during creative meeting

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4590607)
Why would Reigns and Ambrose want to fight each other?

Personal pride. Ambrose and Reigns were at each other's throats during the dying days of The Shield. It was a large part of why Seth Rollins turning heel made sense -- he was sick of holding that unit together and he wanted a World Title future for himself.

But on a more immediate level, you could have set this up very easily in the Royal Rumble. Seth Rollins would lose the Triple Threat, but then be entered into the Rumble, because he's The Authority's guy and they were holding a space open for him anyway. Rollins looks incredible, despite his earlier wars (he's a top star, after all), but he eventually gets clotheslined out by Reigns. Rollins just stares back from the floor, as Reigns perhaps gives Rollins a wink or a mock Shield fist-bump. Instead of going to the back, Rollins grabs the leg of Reigns, who is then dumped out by Ambrose -- who gets the elimination unknowingly with the assist of the man on this planet he hates the most.

At Fastlane, to blow off the Orton vs. Rollins drama, you have them face-off in a match. Orton can even win that when he hits an RKO off a springboard attempt from Rollins, or something equally awesome. Rollins has been so well protected at this point. Reigns & Ambrose can be forced into a tag team match against two of The Authority's stooges. Maybe Big Show & Kane? Ambrose and Reigns can win after Ambrose gets the pin after a Reigns Spear, and Ambrose has blind-tagged himself in.

Simple, time-tested stuff.

#1-norm-fan 02-26-2015 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4590803)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer (Post 4590803)
What’s notable is that 21 years ago, a younger Vince McMahon was in the same position, choosing between his own hand-picked next star of the company, tall bodybuilder Lex Luger, or one of the best in-ring performers of that time, Bret Hart. Historically, Luger was far closer to what McMahon liked his champions to look like. But Hart was more popular among the fans. Faced with the crowd reaction in the laboratory setting of a big show, the fans liked Hart more than Luger when they squared off. The WrestleMania original plan, Luger beating Yokozuna to win the title, was changed to Hart. Luger’s momentum was lost, and a little over two years later, working as part of a mid-card tag team he walked out on the company. Hart became the company’s biggest star, before he was gone more than three years later.

This time, McMahon went with the original plan. It was acknowledged that Reigns wasn’t over like he should have been. So they went to work. They brought in his cousin, Dwayne Johnson, to make his Royal Rumble win even bigger. But the miscalculation of putting Bryan in the Rumble made the whole scenario backfire, and even the endorsement of Johnson didn’t matter.


Considering how poorly Bret as champ worked out for the company, if that scenario was indeed on his mind, no wonder he didn't break his plans.

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 08:29 PM

Read the whole article, fan.

Jazzy Foot 02-26-2015 08:32 PM

So Rey Mysterio gone from the WWE. Thoughts anyone? The end of an era?

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 08:38 PM

Rey Mysterio was a fantastic talent. All you have to do is look over his body of work to see how many great matches he had, even just under the WWE umbrella. It's a shame things disintergrated between him and the WWE.

Volare 02-26-2015 08:40 PM

Drunk Noid is drunk lol.

James Steele 02-26-2015 08:41 PM

Rey Mysterio has only worked a handful of matches in the past 5 years. It is long past due for him to retire or work part time.

Tazz Dan 02-26-2015 08:47 PM

Apparently there's going to be a ladder match for the IC Title at Wrestlemania. I'm okay with this.

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 08:54 PM

I'm okay with this, but it just doesn't...jump out at me. I'd rather see a Ladder Match for the Tag Team Titles. Or Seth Rollins gets forced to defend his Money in the Bank contract against some rivals, old and new. I was just hoping for Bad News Barrett vs. Dean Ambrose in a straight-forward match built around how much both want to be the IC Champion.

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 09:04 PM

I was thinking before, as unlikely as this is, given that the public spotlight that is appearing on how the WWE treats its female employees -- I think the best Divas Title match the WWE could put on at WrestleMania, given the circumstances, is Nikki Bella defending the Divas Title against Paige and Emma in a Triple Threat Match.

The biggest problem is Emma's credibility, but we all know she can go. The smark crowd at WrestleMania will know she can go. The announcers can sell it as her "stepping up." That can be part of her story heading into the match. Have her and Paige get another shot against The Bella Twins on RAW, this time with time (the obvious stage one remedy), and the face girls actually win. Emma can then make Brie Bella tap-out to the Emma Lock on another RAW or SmackDown. Paige wants another title shot, but so does Emma. The two fight in a #1 Contender's Match, but Nikki and Brie keep putting feet on the ropes and all that. Eventually, Emma and Paige work out what is going on, and they go after The Bella Twins. The match is thrown out.

Brie being involved would add the drama of sisters fighting over the title, but she's been fine playing the bad sister helping out Nikki. Plus, it runs the risk of turning into a tag team match at points. The Bellas are bound to start fighting at some point, but it's going to be quite blocky. A Triple Threat allows Paige and Emma to team together, but when they fight, Nikki can pick her spots, and then Brie is free to run interference.

I wouldn't put the title on Emma, although it would be a feel-good moment, but Paige can win by pinning Nikki. Emma and Paige hug, but then Emma attacks Paige, turning heel on the grand stage. Does Emma become super-serious? Maybe. A fun gimmick like her's is great for getting a foot in the door, but she can surely mature past it. But she could also keep it and just act like a total bitch towards the face girls -- which her character in NXT actually did -- only now you are actually meant to boo her.

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 09:06 PM

If you throw that in there with a Stephanie McMahon/AJ Lee confrontation, where perhaps Sarah Amato attacks Lee from behind; and perhaps Natalya and Naomi getting involved in my dream Cesaro & Kidd vs. The Usos Ladder Match, and you've got yourself some very strong spots for the ladies.

Lock Jaw 02-26-2015 09:06 PM

Just seems like a "mess" to me.... Going to be terrible for Daniel Bryan to get shoved into a random IC title match multi-man match.....

If they really want to put a bunch of people in the IC title picture.... I say somehow have the title become "held in abeyance" and then hold a mini-tournament at WM.

Daniel Bryan
Dolph Ziggler
Bad New Barrett
Dean Ambrose

And kick out R-Truth from the mix because no one cares.

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 09:08 PM

I've come off my "The WWE should pay The Rock a lot of money to come in and face Rusev so that they can run Cena vs. Bryan" high, I do still think they should do Cena vs. Bryan. Just have Sheamus be the guy that faces Rusev, trying to win back his US Title.

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 09:11 PM

I seriously think that R-Truth is just in there because the WWE realized that there are no black talent involved in WrestleMania in any big way. Doing up all my fantasy cards for Mania, I figured this out myself and found myself trying to find a way to get The Prime Time Players and The New Day on the card, despite them not really being hot major acts at the moment.

And that's a problem. The WWE shoved Kofi Kingston and Big E, two babyface African-American stars with potential, into a faction that has made people care less about them, as opposed to more. Titus O'Neil is around, but they never did anything with him and they made him look foolish at the Royal Rumble. They could have bounced him back from this with a mean streak, but they didn't. And who was he realistically going to face? John Cena? Get off it. Mark Henry would no doubt be involved in something if he were around, but he's not in the best of ways physically at the moment, although a WrestleMania return wouldn't surprise me.

#1-norm-fan 02-26-2015 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4590960)
Read the whole article, fan.

I did read it. It likened the Bryan/Reigns situation to the Hart/Luger situation and said how Vince wanted Luger to win the title at WrestleMania but when faced with the situation of the crowd rejecting the "Vince guy" for the "pure wrestler guy", he changed his mind. This time, he did not. What am I missing?

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 09:17 PM

That Luger was not the guy either.

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 09:19 PM

Cannot believe how over Daniel Bryan was last year. Seriously. Wow. I regularly go back and watch the moment where Bryan rejected Bray Wyatt. As great as Wyatt is at the character, you can almost see him marking out.

Tazz Dan 02-26-2015 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4590982)
Just seems like a "mess" to me.... Going to be terrible for Daniel Bryan to get shoved into a random IC title match multi-man match.....

If they really want to put a bunch of people in the IC title picture.... I say somehow have the title become "held in abeyance" and then hold a mini-tournament at WM.

Daniel Bryan
Dolph Ziggler
Bad New Barrett
Dean Ambrose

And kick out R-Truth from the mix because no one cares.

I care about Truth. Now wash you mouth out with soap.

#1-norm-fan 02-26-2015 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4590991)
That Luger was not the guy either.

Well technically he was never given the reins to see how it would turn out so we'll never know. He chose to give Bret the reins instead. This time, he went with his original plan. That was my point.

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 09:23 PM

I like Truth in the same way that I liked Rey Mysterio. People act like "Oh, it's fucking this guy again," but break down the guy's ability. He's a good worker in the ring, he's confident on the mic, he's able to warm up crowds -- he's an overall more than worthy addition to the roster. He's pretty much the perfect sports entertainer for any mid-card spot.

That being said, I could care about him so much more if he went crazy heel again.

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 09:24 PM

I remember thinking "R-Truth turning heel is cool, but how much gas does he really have in the tank to be a top guy coming out of this?" That was four years ago... :(

Innovator 02-26-2015 09:24 PM

Let's put a guy coming off neck surgery in a multi man ladder match

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4590995)
Well technically he was never given the reins to see how it would turn out so we'll never know. He chose to give Bret the reins instead. This time, he went with his original plan. That was my point.

I think your point is missing the point of the article. That's all.

Lock Jaw 02-26-2015 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4590984)
I seriously think that R-Truth is just in there because the WWE realized that there are no black talent involved in WrestleMania in any big way. Doing up all my fantasy cards for Mania, I figured this out myself and found myself trying to find a way to get The Prime Time Players and The New Day on the card, despite them not really being hot major acts at the moment.

And that's a problem. The WWE shoved Kofi Kingston and Big E, two babyface African-American stars with potential, into a faction that has made people care less about them, as opposed to more. Titus O'Neil is around, but they never did anything with him and they made him look foolish at the Royal Rumble. They could have bounced him back from this with a mean streak, but they didn't. And who was he realistically going to face? John Cena? Get off it. Mark Henry would no doubt be involved in something if he were around, but he's not in the best of ways physically at the moment, although a WrestleMania return wouldn't surprise me.

That is actually a really good point. In which case they should have built up The New Day for a month and thrown them into a tag team ladder match with Usos/KiddCesaro. Kofi Kingston in a ladder match is always reliable.

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4591004)
That is actually a really good point. In which case they should have built up The New Day for a month and thrown them into a tag team ladder match with Usos/KiddCesaro. Kofi Kingston in a ladder match is always reliable.

This is what I ended up thinking they could go with. There were only a few things I didn't like about it:

1. There are three New Day guys. That gives them an edge in a match like this. If one of them sits idly by in the back, they don't look hungry enough. If the third guy gets involved, then I can't justify them losing.

2. They have been booked so fucking shit and people don't care.

3. They have been presented like shit and people don't care. I thought the look was jarring at first, and that could be a good way to get them noticed. Nope. I was wrong, and the blue sucked shit. Makes them seem just happy to be around.

4. The Freebird dynamic is annoying me for some reason. They needed a heel group to feud with, but there was none around. The varying combinations makes it hard to get behind any particular two guys, and it's kind of heelish.

I could have been OK with them being in there, but I would have had them lose and turn heel afterwards. Or turn on each other and end that failed experiment. If you turn The New Day as a group, Kofi and Big E work the Ladder Match; if you break them up, Kofi & Woods do the stunts.

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 09:34 PM

Oh shit, the Ladder Match is actually official?

Tazz Dan 02-26-2015 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4591008)
Oh shit, the Ladder Match is actually official?

Yeah, I got a notification from the WWE app earlier :y:

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 09:38 PM

Bad News Barrett
Dean Ambrose
Dolph Ziggler
Kofi Kingston
Sheamus
Kane (because someone needs to represent The Authority)
Jack Swagger (hey, he's a really good worker, can add to some power spots and won a MITB match before)
Finn Balor (because I can see even Vince McMahon jizzing at his WrestleMania entrance)

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2015 09:40 PM

Actually, take out Kane and have Chris Jericho enter. OH YEAH, BABYYYYYYYY!!!!!


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