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Mark Waid (Kingdom Come) is returning to DC Comics after vowing to never work there again after a fallout w/ Dan Didio who fired him from Superman just two days after he was hired to write Superman due to mysterious "Dan Didio reasons"....Superman is Waid's favorite character of all-time.

....Maybe now Mark Waid will take over for Bendis on Supes....Joshua Williamson's time on The Flash is also ending so he could be a contender for Supes or Justice League too...

Superman: Birthright by Waid one of my fav Superman stories....

Mr Freeze better be in this event. Seems a good time for Killer Frost and Icicle to get a push to. Bit of a closet fan of Killer Frost, personally.

I mean this event seems like it’s based on mythology and magic. Freeze is 100% based on science. So just being an ice villain doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a natural fit for the story.

Could see him in maybe a side role. Like the heroes going to him at some point to make these Arctic outfits they’re showing off.

Latest DC rumors from Bleeding Cool

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/goss...c-comics-2021/

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DC Comics' December solicitations note that Brian Bendis' runs on Superman and Action Comics are ending in December – and this was after statements Brian Bendis made in June saying he would be staying on the Superman titles at DC "for a looooooong time."
Grant Morrison's run on Green Lantern will be ending soon, with no replacement project lined up.
Scott Snyder's Death Metal is coming to an end. He has American Vampire at DC, but nothing else announced.
Tom King has the Rorschach, Batman/Catwoman and Strange Adventures series for 12 issues each, but don't expect any similar big deals after that.
Geoff Johns brought the noise with Doomsday Clock and Three Jokers but, again, nothing lined up to follow.

These are all writers who DC Comics wooed and threw big money at to write for them. These were expensive deals, but they helped DC grab market share and get headlines. That is what is changing. The big trucks of cash are stopping. DC Comics will not be matching or exceeding former deals on upcoming projects. This is the kind of thing agents will always ask for and advise their clients not to accept lesser deals going forward, for fear of diluting their going rate.

But it's a rate that DC Comics isn't going to match going forward. What does this mean? Well, some creators want to do the work anyway and won't care if they knock their going rate. We speculated that Mark Waid may be taking Superman from Brian Bendis, but we have also been told he was offered Green Lantern when Grant Morrison's run ends.

James Tynion IV's run on Batman was at a lower rate than both Tom King and Scott Snyder were paid, he was not at that stage as big a name – though the success of Something Is Killing The Children, Wynd and The Department Of Truth at Boom and Image have changed that equation. The Department Of Truth, with 100,000 + orders for the first issue, will pay Tynion what a year of Batman comics at DC would pay.

With digital, mass market and bookstore markets as a greater focus for DC Comics going forward, outside of the comic book shop, these are considered to be less writer-sensitive and more character-sensitive markets. Basically, it matters less who writes them will be the new motto at DC.

Bendis recently tweeted this, which sort of scares me...I really hope it doesn't mean he'll be writing Justice League, Batman, Flash or some big CRISIS book. Would be particularly not pleased if he got to screw up the Bat-family next.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Something big enough to get me to clear the deck. It’s all super exciting but it’s months away and we’ll talk about it all when the world isn’t literally on fire ( I’m in portland) <a href="https://t.co/huQHEvjJnQ">https://t.co/huQHEvjJnQ</a></p>— BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS (@BRIANMBENDIS) <a href="https://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS/status/1305359232040972288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

R.I.P. DC Universe, hello DC Universe Infinite

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Launching Jan 2021, and will be available worldwide Summer 2021. Might give it a look even though I haven't read anything in a long while. Interested to see how much is on there, how things are organized and look... etc.

Meanwhile, Harley Quinn officially renewed for a Season 3 and moves over to HBO Max

Supergirl ending with season 6

I don’t watch Supergirl so I don’t know if this applies to that show.

Everyone on The Flash just kind of seems like they are not interested anymore. So I’m not sure how much longer The Flash will go on for.

The Flash Episode ___:

*Spotlight character gets frustrated and storms out*

*Random character follows them and gives them a pep-talk*

*Spotlight character learns an important lesson by the end*

Next Time on The Flash:

*Spotlight character forgets all about lesson*

They need some new blood.

upcoming frightening thought.....

Bendis will totally get to write a CRISIS

In Bendis's first issue of Young Justice he made it a point to re-iterated their had been "7 Crises" in DC and that each time a crisis happened things got messed up (like people forgetting Connor Kent)....

In this week's Action Comics he reveals Young Justice villain Dr. Glory, responsible for Connor Kent's disappearance, as well as the Invisible Mafia leader Leone are actually from Earth 3...and that Dr. Glory had jumped multiverses 7 times before...

I bet Bendis re-writes DC history so that this scientist Dr. Glory is reponsible for every DC Crisis by multiverse hopping and it having some weird effect on things when she does...

I bet he does end up getting Justice League or a CRISIS book and re-writes all of DC history...

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In other news, Zack Snyder is going to end up doing more shoots for his Justice League cut, with Gal Gadot, Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, and Ray Fisher (Cyborg) all being confirmed as being involved in the reshoots.

Pretty surreal the amount of money they are pouring into the Zack Snyder cut

That's interesting. I have a pretty strong sense that this will get enough views and boost subscribers to the point of HBO basically telling Snyder to finish the story and end up writing a check for him to produce a sequel.

There's already a ton of buzz on this, they're gnarly comfortable in investing in the project, and a 4 part miniseries prob fits Snyder's vision and serves his talents more than cramming all his ideas into a movie.

I keep reading it as Dan Dildo.

"The Green Lantern live-action series for HBO Max has revealed its central characters, which will include the Earth's first Green Lantern, Alan Scott -- who will be gay just like in the Earth-2 comics and DC's updated main timeline -- and all-new corps members.

According to Deadline, joining Scott are Guy Gardner, Jessica Cruz, Simon Baz, Sinestro and Kilowog."

No sign of Hal Jordan or John Stewart....

Not a fan of Alan Scott being gay either.... Feel like it does a disservice to the characters of his wife and children.... pick another character who doesn't have decades of history as a married heterosexual man with kids to turn gay....

It's Earth-2 Alan Scott as well. Blegh.

Major DC Comics news today:

https://www.gamesradar.com/what-is-dc-future-state/

DC is NOT rebooting again...but they are doing a line-wide RELAUNCH of some sort.

DC has announced January-February will see NO regular issues released of any series. Instead January and February will see the release of Generations: Shattered, FUTURE STATE and Generations: Forged.

DEATH METAL concludes the first week of January and the conclusion immediately launches into Dan Jurgen's book, Generations: Shattered which will see the original 1939 Batman team up with Sinestro, Kamandi, Starfire, Booster Gold, Steel and Dr Light to battle a threat to all of DC's history and multiverses. Generations: Shattered will be released the same day as DEATH METAL #7 and is intended to be read immediately afterwards.

Whatever happens there ties into FUTURE STATE, which will be a two month event replacing all other titles, and will then conclude with Generations: Forged at the end of February.

As noted in this thread before, originally DC was going to do 5G (Fifth Generation) and age out Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Supes, etc and replace them with new versions. Then Dan Didio got fired. Then Covid-19 happened. Then WB replaced a lot of DC's staff and leadership.

As also noted in this thread before, all the current DC Titles are either:

A) Ending in December
B) Current Creative teams are ending in December on major books (Bendis on Supes being the biggest example)
C) All current comic solicitations for December are either finales of current arcs or one-shot issues.
D) ENDLESS WINTER is taking place in multiple books, in December ONLY, in place of new stories starting in those comics instead.

What does it all mean - we don't know yet. But it would seem like DC is gearing up March to be a major jumping on point, a big refresh, new books, new creative teams for many major titles, a company RELAUNCH rather than REBOOT.

Some speculation is that DC will do a time-jump of sorts, not unlike the original 5G plans, but with some twist involved so it won't be so extreme of a change.

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DC has revealed FUTURE STATE

All the 5G titles will be released instead as FUTURE STATE which will show the possible future of DC with new characters taking over the mantle of the most famous heroes (This would have been a permanent change pre-Didio getting fired)

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Batman

The son of Lucius Fox takes over the mantle of Batman
Bruce Wayne takes the mantle of Dark Detective

In this future, Gotham City is controlled by the Magistrate. This villainous regime has taken control of the city, now under constant surveillance. All masked vigilantes have been outlawed and Batman has been killed. But an all-new Batman will rise!

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Superman

Due to his involvement in an international crisis happening in the near future, Clark Kent has been rejected by Earth, causing him to focus his lifesaving efforts outside his adopted home. He travels to Warworld to rise through the ranks of gladiatorial combat in order to defeat Mongul with the help of some unlikely heroes. Back in Metropolis, Clark's son Jon Kent has taken on the mantle of Superman. After seeing the horrors that befell Gotham, he bottles Metropolis in order to keep it safe, putting him at odds with Supergirl. Can Metropolis survive better than the bottled city of Kandor did?

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Wonder Woman

Meanwhile in the Amazon rainforest, Yara Flor is chosen to be the new Wonder Woman. Years later, the new Superman and Wonder Woman join forces to save their cities in a new superhero team-up the likes of which the world has never seen.

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Justice League + More

A thread of great change runs through the Justice League heroes: a new League is built upon secret identities (even from each other), but an old and evolved enemy will use these secrets to try and overthrow the world. For the supernatural heroes of Justice League Dark, the very fabric of reality has shifted, and heroes are being hunted.

For Flash, Shazam, and the Teen Titans, it all begins when the four Riders of the Apocalypse unleash hell in a battle at Titans Academy, Barry Allen is cut off from the Speed Force, a Famine-controlled Wally West may be beyond saving, and Billy Batson makes a deal with the devil that will change Shazam forever. Off-world, John Stewart and the remaining Green Lanterns are stranded in the shadow of a dead power battery; Jackson Hyde and Andy Curry are separated across the galaxy; and Amanda Waller executes her ultimate plan with a new but terrifyingly familiar Suicide Squad on Earth-3.

At the end of time, Swamp Thing reveals its true intention, ruling supreme until a remnant of humanity launches a rebellion, and Black Adam looks to the past as the only way to save the future of the Multiverse.

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You can read more about FUTURE STATE including who is writing each comic, here:

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/dc-c...l-in-2-months/

Jared Leto Joker returning for Zack Snyder's Justice League.....

Came here to say the same. Interesting. Didn't feel he got enough screen time in Suicide Squad.

Started reading The Last God

Holy shit, more of this, please.

Future State Wonder Woman Yara Flor is getting a post-Future State series of her own where she will be Wonder Girl...... and the CW is developing a Wonder Girl show starring her as well.

Seem to be ALL-IN on this new braud

Black Lightning ending with the upcoming S4... some dude named Painkiller is getting a spinoff show from it though...

I never finished the first season of the show... I was liking it, so no real reason why I didn't besides just too many shows

watched the Harley Quinn animated series. funny. voice acting is very good

Black Lightning was alright, not as socially heavy handed as people thought. He got to play in the CW sandbox a lil late and making him in some different reality was dumb. While Arrow and Flash has a healthy lifespan, this is the 3rd show that just bled viewership. They should be careful how they market these shows because certain rhetoric does not pan out like they think. As Batwoman V2 will learn in a bit.

Ava DuVernay developing a "Naomi" series for the CW now....

Despite being written by Bendis I read a few issues of the Naomi miniseries and was liking it..... never finished it, though.

I ended up disliking Naomi

It started really interesting and then nothing fucking happened the remaining 95% of the series because Bendis is Bendis

I don't think they ever even explained what her powers are just that she got them from a 'gas leak on her home planet'