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Sepholio 02-27-2023 09:26 AM

Pfft. There won't be enough titles until everyone has at least one.

Sepholio 02-27-2023 09:27 AM

It will be a glorious day when TK can finally announce that AEW has more champions than the entire rest of the world.

Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2023 07:13 PM

Things are looking dicey between AEW and FTR. AEW hilariously did up graphics for the Observer award winners (how’s that unbiased journalism going?). They purposely ignored FTR and Dax has had a sook about it on Twitter. He’s going to be doing a podcast on the backstage bullshit surrounding The Pinnacle. Shawn Spears commented by saying it was DOA.

What a fucking mess.

Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2023 07:14 PM

I’m almost bored of the mismanagement drama. Almost. Not quite.

Mr. Nerfect 02-28-2023 02:25 AM

A video of Fight Forever featuring Adam Page and Bryan Danielson came out. It looks fucking horrible.

Vastardikai 02-28-2023 09:37 AM

We needed molotov cocktails, though...

Mr. Nerfect 02-28-2023 12:27 PM

And baseball.

Mr. Nerfect 02-28-2023 12:27 PM

The wrestlers don’t even look like themselves. Danielson has got the most weird-ass hair.

Mr. Nerfect 02-28-2023 12:40 PM

No one here seems to be talking about the ROH tapings. This thing seems tepid as fuck. It sounds like the ROH shows are going to be 2 hrs of Rampage-esque matches.

XL 02-28-2023 03:13 PM

Nobody here was interested in ROH before Tony bought it, tracks that there’s still zero interest.

Destor 02-28-2023 03:52 PM

Havent really cared since Gabe left

Mr. Nerfect 02-28-2023 07:31 PM

It certainly doesn’t have the shine to it that it once had.

slik 03-01-2023 12:51 PM

John Laurenitus rumored to be signing with AEW...was backstage at last two shows

Mr. Nerfect 03-01-2023 12:54 PM

That sounds very weird.

Mr. Nerfect 03-01-2023 01:40 PM

I have a question in regards to AEW’s June PPV: How many times can a forbidden door be opened before it is no longer considered forbidden?

Sepholio 03-01-2023 02:51 PM

Oh man if they hire Laurenitus ahahahahha

Mr. Nerfect 03-01-2023 03:28 PM

He got uninvited to a convention for being a problem. AEW is not going to bring him in with their political stances. And the fans will also hold their faces in disbelief because the evil joke, Johnny Ace, is with their company. I’m calling bullshit on this, but if it does happen…holy shit.

Mr. Nerfect 03-01-2023 03:30 PM

I could see WWE rehiring him. Did he do anything *worse* than Vince? But not AEW. I think this is just satire aimed at the state of the company.

#1-norm-fan 03-01-2023 03:43 PM

Wrestling at the Cow Palace tonight. Hits me in the old school California rasslin’ nostalgia feels.

Sepholio 03-01-2023 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5603143)
I could see WWE rehiring him. Did he do anything *worse* than Vince? But not AEW. I think this is just satire aimed at the state of the company.

I dunno I'm imagining TK might be a little horny at the prospect of Laurenitus cutting a debut fedbad promo with veiled references to Vince being a predator.

drave 03-02-2023 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5603085)
A video of Fight Forever featuring Adam Page and Bryan Danielson came out. It looks fucking horrible.




Danielson's hair looks like it did at one point (before AEW got their TV deal though, so maybe that's why?) in AEW.



So far, it looks to be moving like it should. WWE can do their "photo-realistic" games if they want (I' invoking WWE because there aren't any other comparable games). Except they only scan about 20% or less of the game'sl roster, so it looks horrible outside of your "main attraction" stars.



This looks as advertised from the start. In today's gaming, seriously, it isn't all about "the graphics" for most.



<iframe width="1250" height="703" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/OTAeCs4xu44" title="AEW Fight Forever - Exclusive Official Adam Page vs Bryan Danielson Clip | IGN Fan Fest 2023" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Fignuts 03-02-2023 08:07 AM

Yeah, it's quick and snappy like a no mercy style game should be.

Although the animation on those diving moves looks a little too choppy. Buckshot looks great though.

#1-norm-fan 03-02-2023 08:12 AM

I remember one of the old N64 WWF games basically just had a picture of the dude’s face on his video game body. It looked weird as fuck.

#1-norm-fan 03-02-2023 08:21 AM

Man, I didn’t know that video was gonna switch to real footage after the entrance and for a split second I was like “WHAT THE FUCK…”

#1-norm-fan 03-02-2023 08:33 AM

Saw someone on Twitter bring up the idea of Mark Briscoe and FTR winning the Trios titles and now I need that to happen.

Still think the titles are stupid but if anything could give them purpose for a while, it’s that.

XL 03-02-2023 08:47 AM

You’d need FTR to appear on the show to set that up and that seems like a “no-go”.

screech 03-02-2023 09:11 AM

Game looks okay. I don't "love" the graphics, but also that's not super important to me with rasslin games. I mainly want the controls to make sense.

#1-norm-fan 03-02-2023 09:36 AM

Yeah, wrestling games lost me years ago when it went from “grapple and then hit a button or combination of buttons for a specific move” to “up, down, x, x, right trigger, x, y, b, left trigger, right, left, right, left, x, w, q, q, q, plug in old Duck Hunt gun and pull the trigger, y, right trigger = body slam”

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2023 12:25 PM

The movements look choppy as hell. Graphics aren’t the end-all, but the wrestlers don’t even look like the wrestlers. Danielson’s hair is a perfect example of that.

Lock Jaw 03-02-2023 12:40 PM

Coming from a guy who hasn't regularly played video games since the Gamecube.... movements look perfectly fine and the two rasslers in that video look pretty good... Danielson's hair matches the weird-ass style he had around his AEW debut when I watched for a few months....

#1-norm-fan 03-02-2023 12:41 PM

Hangman’s earlobes aren’t quite to my liking.

F-

XL 03-02-2023 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5603291)
Yeah, wrestling games lost me years ago when it went from “grapple and then hit a button or combination of buttons for a specific move” to “up, down, x, x, right trigger, x, y, b, left trigger, right, left, right, left, x, w, q, q, q, plug in old Duck Hunt gun and pull the trigger, y, right trigger = body slam”

Tbf, wrestling games largely went the other way until the most recent 2K game which put elements of those back in which was something I wasn’t overly keen on.

If this is just going straight to Game Pass and releases in the next 2 weeks it could be a really smart move. As much as I was impressed by 2K22 I can’t see 23 being a big enough jump forward to warrant dropping another £60 on. A few quid for game pass to play the AEW game might scratch that itch until 2K23 comes down in price (and some of the inevitable early bugs are patched).

Sepholio 03-02-2023 02:53 PM

I thought the thing about it being on game pass was just fake news?

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2023 03:19 PM

It wouldn’t surprise me if this game ends up on the side of a milk carton.

xrodmuc316 03-02-2023 03:38 PM

I heard they changed the game title to AEW Wait Forever :lol:

#1-norm-fan 03-02-2023 04:03 PM

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Lock Jaw 03-02-2023 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5603322)
I heard they changed the game title to AEW Wait Forever :lol:

https://media.tenor.com/eVZ_uOSR7JsAAAAC/sick-burn.gif

drave 03-03-2023 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5603298)
The movements look choppy as hell. Graphics aren’t the end-all, but the wrestlers don’t even look like the wrestlers. Danielson’s hair is a perfect example of that.




Brother in Christos, I'd highly encourage you to look up some screenshots of prior WWE games. It's waaaaaaay worse than hair. When someone isn't scanned, it looks awful.




Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan
Yeah, wrestling games lost me years ago when it went from “grapple and then hit a button or combination of buttons for a specific move” to “up, down, x, x, right trigger, x, y, b, left trigger, right, left, right, left, x, w, q, q, q, plug in old Duck Hunt gun and pull the trigger, y, right trigger = body slam”





This is mostly gone. There may be a few things like RT+X, but that's as complicated as it gets anymore. I bought 2k22 on sale, it's the best release in a very long time.

#1-norm-fan 03-03-2023 09:28 AM

My butthole is squeaky clean, drave. What the hell.

Sepholio 03-03-2023 10:06 AM

Stop lying liar.

Sepholio 03-03-2023 10:06 AM

Oh wait that's the other fan isn't it?

Sepholio 03-03-2023 10:06 AM

You guys are easy to get confused.

#1-norm-fan 03-03-2023 10:27 AM

As someone who has paid money to watch me poop, you should know how thorough my butt cleaning routine is. Or do you turn the stream off after the main event?

xrodmuc316 03-03-2023 09:25 PM

https://i.imgflip.com/7d857a.jpg

LOL

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don't worry he ain't watching</p>&mdash; Kevin Nash (@RealKevinNash) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealKevinNash/status/1631806790877814788?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Huge pop!!</p>&mdash; Undertaker (@undertaker) <a href="https://twitter.com/undertaker/status/1631836453918457857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2023 09:29 PM

LolAEW

slik 03-03-2023 09:43 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don't worry he ain't watching</p>&mdash; Kevin Nash (@RealKevinNash) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealKevinNash/status/1631806790877814788?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Huge pop!!</p>&mdash; Undertaker (@undertaker) <a href="https://twitter.com/undertaker/status/1631836453918457857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2023 09:52 PM

The Revolution card looks fucking horrid.

I’d actually put Danielson over in the main event at this point. Nothing about this MJF run or the promotion is working right now.

SPOILER: show
MJF gets ahead with a submission early. Danielson taps to avoid damage to his arm. (1-0)

* MJF goes up again when he again gets the arm. MJF is starting to get cocky. (2-0)

* Danielson gets a DQ point when MJF hits him in the arm with a steel chair. (2-1)

* MJF gets a third submission with the arm now fully damaged. (3-1)

* Danielson scores a second fall when he small packages MJF as a defensive move. (3-2)

* Danielson gets his hands on the steel chair and uses it, getting himself disqualified and sending MJF to the outside. (4-2)

* Danielson looks for the knockout forearm on the outside, but MJF moves and Danielson crashes and burns. MJF gets him back in the ring and hits the Heat Seeker for a pin. (5-2)

* Danielson makes a comeback and hits a string of rolling German suplexes with bridges after them. He tries to get the pin after each one. The third one gets 3. (5-3)

* Danielson goes back to the well with the Germans, but MJF, sensing himself to be in trouble, mule kicks Bryan in the balls and gets himself disqualified again. (5-4)

* They spill to the outside again and Danielson gets the knockout forearm and rolls MJF back into the ring for the pin. (5-5)

* Danielson goes for his routine babyface stuff to try and break ahead. When he backflips, MJF prevents himself from being inside and catches Bryan with a school boy, but Danielson rolls through and gets the LeBell Lock and holds it as time expires.

* Tony Khan comes out and screams about how Iron Man Matches in AEW don’t end in draws. It’s going to be sudden death.

* Danielson gets his routine babyface stuff, this time it works. He hits a spider German superplex off the top rope and lines up for the knee, ala SummerSlam ‘13 against John Cena. MJF dodges, escapes to the outside. Danielson hits a knee off the apron. He rolls MJF inside, ends up hitting the Busaiku and wins the match. (6-5)

Lock Jaw 03-03-2023 10:53 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don't worry he ain't watching</p>&mdash; Kevin Nash (@RealKevinNash) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealKevinNash/status/1631806790877814788?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Huge pop!!</p>&mdash; Undertaker (@undertaker) <a href="https://twitter.com/undertaker/status/1631836453918457857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

XL 03-04-2023 04:54 AM

Did we need that posting 3 times? :lol:

Vastardikai 03-04-2023 06:45 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don't worry he ain't watching</p>&mdash; Kevin Nash (@RealKevinNash) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealKevinNash/status/1631806790877814788?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Huge pop!!</p>&mdash; Undertaker (@undertaker) <a href="https://twitter.com/undertaker/status/1631836453918457857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No, but here is a fourth one.

Vastardikai 03-04-2023 06:51 AM

Also, it appears as if Britt's long term manager has a new gimmick. She will now be referred to as Not Rebel, Not Reba, Not Rose, Not Rebecca, Not Rolanda, but Removed from Television.

Sepholio 03-04-2023 07:13 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don't worry he ain't watching</p>&mdash; Kevin Nash (@RealKevinNash) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealKevinNash/status/1631806790877814788?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Huge pop!!</p>&mdash; Undertaker (@undertaker) <a href="https://twitter.com/undertaker/status/1631836453918457857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Vastardikai 03-04-2023 09:42 AM

Of course, shit biscuits are making reference to Nash's dead son in response to his Crack at the Uncharismatic Enigma. Not a Cult at all.

Also, someone called Taker a racist. Which is probably news to the New Day, Ron Simmons, and Godfather. Fun fact: the Godwins and Taker were the only white members of the BSK.

Lock Jaw 03-04-2023 09:54 AM

Lemme guess, that image with the blood is from just a regular ol' Dynanite? Pretty "disgusted" @ AEW's usage of blood.....

xrodmuc316 03-04-2023 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5603514)
Also, it appears as if Britt's long term manager has a new gimmick. She will now be referred to as Not Rebel, Not Reba, Not Rose, Not Rebecca, Not Rolanda, but Removed from Television.

Which is pretty ridiculous because it is not like she did anything overtly heel other than helping Britt/Jamie. Just because they are randomly faces now because Saraya/Storm are spraypainting nWo heels, notwithstanding Ruby Soho is the only actual babyface , somehow Rebel's character is too evil to be an ally anymore. Solid booker of the year level stuff there... :roll:

xrodmuc316 03-04-2023 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5603521)
Of course, shit biscuits are making reference to Nash's dead son in response to his Crack at the Uncharismatic Enigma. Not a Cult at all.

Also, someone called Taker a racist. Which is probably news to the New Day, Ron Simmons, and Godfather. Fun fact: the Godwins and Taker were the only white members of the BSK.

You are not allowed to NOT accept Wheeler Yuta as a Main Event MEGASTAR, or you deserve for your children to die and/or be labeled a racist. It is just wrestling that makes them feel like a kid again!

#1-norm-fan 03-04-2023 01:38 PM

I don’t think Taker is a racist but “He has black friends!” isn’t exactly the best rebuttal. Lol

Vastardikai 03-04-2023 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5603544)
I don’t think Taker is a racist but “He has black friends!” isn’t exactly the best rebuttal. Lol

You're not wrong, especially in the wrestling business when folks were literal KKK members and would back up Tony Atlas.

But the New Day didn't buy Hogan's apology. So I kind of doubt him being racist. The homophobia meme is funnier, though.

Vastardikai 03-04-2023 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5603551)
You're not wrong, especially in the wrestling business when folks were literal KKK members and would back up Tony Atlas.

But the New Day didn't buy Hogan's apology. So I kind of doubt him being racist. The homophobia meme is funnier, though.

I can't put rep messages in my phone, so basically someone claimed that Taker potatoed Kanyon because he was gay. It was disproven, but any chairshot to the head was jerked into "being homophobic." I found an old one with Dusty Rhodes about to wallop the One Man Gang.

Lock Jaw 03-06-2023 02:28 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tony Khan looks like a guy I wouldn’t leave my kids alone with.</p>&mdash; The last Hound of Justice! (@MarkDeering3) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkDeering3/status/1625007856851222528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sting Fan 03-06-2023 05:28 PM

Not entirely sure "The last hound of Justice!" should be casting stones in that space.

slik 03-06-2023 09:43 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">jericho is built like a 65 year old lucha libre legend named like ‘el racisto’</p>&mdash; snowboiiii (@snowboiiii) <a href="https://twitter.com/snowboiiii/status/1632549327238209538?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sting Fan 03-07-2023 10:51 PM

Front page says FTR resigned long term AEW deals, recent TV abscence was storyline. Good get for AEW to keep FTR.

Now it will be interesting to see if we get a Punk return.

drave 03-08-2023 06:26 AM

Punk needs to stay away man. Ignoring "the incident" that took place, his on-screen and in-ring work was fucking terrible. And I was, at one point, a fan.

Sepholio 03-08-2023 06:49 AM

I'd like to see Punk try MMA again.

Sting Fan 03-08-2023 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5603979)
Punk needs to stay away man. Ignoring "the incident" that took place, his on-screen and in-ring work was fucking terrible. And I was, at one point, a fan.

I'm not exactly clamouring for his return either but TK seems to have shown a bit of a flair for holding onto apparently disgruntled guys now. FTR, MJF, Malakai Black as examples.

I dont want Punk near the title, but FTR and Punk vs. The Elite kinda seems like a no brainer if everyone can get through it without hurt feelings. That feels like a big if though.

XL 03-08-2023 03:35 PM

It’s a tricky one if they can’t get the parties to play nice. The sheets have WWE interested in poaching The Elite, does a Punk return to AEW seal that deal? Meanwhile, if they go anyway you’re going to need something to fill that hole and a(nother) Punk return could be the thing to do it. Feels like TK has got to try not to burn bridges in either direction.

Sting Fan 03-08-2023 03:46 PM

Yeah its a tough spot for him.

Personally if its keep the Elite or keep Punk I think keeping the Elite is a no brainer. Longer potential, better fit and legacy employees/business partners. It appears Punk and the FTR arent the package deal some thought they were unless this is all already sorted behind closed doors which I wouldnt put past them.

While AEW can be hokey with the worked shoot stuff there starting to show they can pull it off. Last week FTR were 99% leaving AEW and disgruntled as hell. Feels like the IWC has been getting worked pretty well and will no doubt hate it.

Sepholio 03-08-2023 04:34 PM

lol someone stole the TNT title out of Wardlows car.

#1-norm-fan 03-08-2023 05:43 PM

Good time to remind people not to leave anything in your car if you’re ever in San Francisco.

Frank Drebin 03-08-2023 06:49 PM

Lol @ wwe being interested in the elite. No they aren't. Only reason they'd take them would be to shove it in Tony's face. They can't make their own rules and do flippy shit like they can elsewhere.

You might love him or not but Punk can still draw although I'm not sure what that would look like now that we've had not one but two aborted title runs and the mess after All Out.

Lock Jaw 03-08-2023 06:53 PM

There was a time (pre-AEW) where I could have seen Kenny Omega being "big" in WWE (as much as anyone is, before he would just become another guy). Feel like the ship has definitely sailed on that though. If they had got their hooks into him right from Japan and "protected him from himself" he could have been the next "AJ Styles" (A "big deal fairly quick" that would main event "for a while" but then a few years later just another dude you don't really care about)

xrodmuc316 03-08-2023 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5603981)
I'd like to see Punk try MMA again.

That would be great, I would love seeing him get his fake tough guy ass beat again.

XL 03-09-2023 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 5604024)
Lol @ wwe being interested in the elite. No they aren't. Only reason they'd take them would be to shove it in Tony's face. They can't make their own rules and do flippy shit like they can elsewhere.

You might love him or not but Punk can still draw although I'm not sure what that would look like now that we've had not one but two aborted title runs and the mess after All Out.

You seem to be arguing against your own point here.

Evil Vito 03-09-2023 10:56 AM

I think WWE would be more interested in Omega than The Bucks, but they'd jump at the chance to sign all of them even if they don't have any major plans for any of them.

No matter your opinions on the group as talents, there would be an inherent weirdness in knowing the guys the promotion is named after were all gone.

WWE being able to lure away all of AEW's founding EVPs would be a "statement win" for them.

Frank Drebin 03-09-2023 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5604193)
You seem to be arguing against your own point here.

Is that enough to sign two or three dudes who wouldn't come cheap? Maybe. Would the Bucks and Omega also do it knowing that was the primary reason? I'm saying that shouldn't be enough from either side to want to work something out unless they get a Cody deal where they're promised main event status.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5604210)
I think WWE would be more interested in Omega than The Bucks, but they'd jump at the chance to sign all of them even if they don't have any major plans for any of them.

No matter your opinions on the group as talents, there would be an inherent weirdness in knowing the guys the promotion is named after were all gone.

WWE being able to lure away all of AEW's founding EVPs would be a "statement win" for them.

Again, that would be the primary reason. Wouldn't be worth it for either side. Omega wouldn't be able to bring his Japanese schoolgirls with him and the Bucks would have to do scripted promos and fall in line.

xrodmuc316 03-09-2023 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 5604216)
Again, that would be the primary reason. Wouldn't be worth it for either side. Omega wouldn't be able to bring his Japanese schoolgirls with him and the Bucks would have to do scripted promos and fall in line.

I think that scripted promo thing is misunderstood. You see it any time somebody gets interrupted by the crowd, they go back and repeat the exact same thing. In AEW they may be writing their own promos, but to think aren't getting it timed out and approved when they say the same thing with the same inflection, is just buying into a narrative.

I dont think anybody in WWE would approve Kenny running Steve Urkel's catchphrases, but I am sure they would let him get most of his shit in like bestbout machine and that kind of nonsense.

Mr. Nerfect 03-09-2023 01:30 PM

The Elite are probably more valuable being a problem in AEW’s locker-room. I don’t know if I would make a competing offer. Let them leverage TNA or New Japan against AEW. WWE doesn’t want this to be a wrestler’s market. The Elite and AEW ran the potential of this situation down to the point where that’s gone.

Mr. Nerfect 03-09-2023 01:35 PM

AEW has already scrapped the All-Atlantic Title concept. It’s now the “International Championship” because…reasons.

XL 03-09-2023 02:40 PM

It’s been levelled up. That’s the reason. Didn’t you hear Tony say that? I think he said it 3 times cos he read the tele-prompter multiple times.

Mr. Nerfect 03-09-2023 04:05 PM

Levelling up is what happened to the TNA Global Championship, wasn’t it?

Mr. Nerfect 03-09-2023 04:07 PM

Someone said something about The Elite having way more value than CM Punk. I keep reading that from people, but Punk’s value was not only in what he brought to the table, but creating stars. Mentoring guys. He could sit behind a commentary desk when he’s done in the ring. You get the rewatch value from his work. The Elite’s only value is whatever you place in their spotfests.

Sepholio 03-09-2023 04:16 PM

Name a star Punk has created. Just one.

Also he would suck on commentary because he'll just brag about himself and whine about people not listening to him.

And I totes want a guy mentoring people that flips out and throws everyone under the bus when someone doesn't want his help.

Sepholio 03-09-2023 04:17 PM

I guess there is def rewatch value in his work though. As in "Hey you see how Punk botched that move there? Don't do that."

Sepholio 03-09-2023 04:31 PM

Uhg QT and Hobbs are just the start of a new faction that is now named QTV? Another faction? Seriously?

screech 03-09-2023 05:02 PM

More factions, more belts - woooo rasslin!

Mr. Nerfect 03-09-2023 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5604242)
Name a star Punk has created. Just one.

Also he would suck on commentary because he'll just brag about himself and whine about people not listening to him.

And I totes want a guy mentoring people that flips out and throws everyone under the bus when someone doesn't want his help.

Punk was working with guys like Darby Allin, Will Hobbs and even Danhausen. Just because it wasn’t time for his shoulders to hit the mat yet doesn’t mean that those stories weren’t going to be realized. You have to establish the guy’s return to form before you can go knocking it out of place.

His destruction at the hands of Wardlow, even though Punk squeaked out the technical win, was the flashpoint for Wardlow getting white-hot (within the context of that company) and was the trigger for TK jumping the gun as booker and splitting him and MJF up too soon. It’s not Punk’s fault that would be the best treatment Wardlow would get in the company.

On commentary, Punk knows his bread is buttered on putting over other guys. He was totally selfless during his WWE stint behind the desk (even calling a guy like Tyson Kidd “the best in the world” at one point). I don’t know where you get this idea he’d use the platform (which would be supporting him in this context) to create drama that doesn’t need to exist. If you take Punk’s side and get rid of the politicians, you don’t have those problems anyway.

Punk doesn’t flip out over guys not listening to him, lol. He gets cranky when they try to sabotage PPV programs, their work drives off viewers and nothing is done about it. He flips out when they barge into his personal space looking for a fight and gives them one.

AEW needs to be cleaned up. And Punk has got way more value than Kenny or The Bucks in a clean space, because they literally can’t do any of the things that Punk can, even in theory.

Sepholio 03-09-2023 06:13 PM

"...doesn't mean that those stories weren't going to be realized."

This is AEW. TK has the book. That's exactly what it means. They were going to be forgotten and left behind until 3 years later Darby would randomly go over CM Punk in a meaningless match at the time and a bunch of marks will come running in yelling "LONG TERM STORY TELLING!!!"

Wardlow was "white hot" for about 2 minutes after that. Then he was paired with Joe, then jobbed to Joe, then won the title back, then lost it to Hobbs in 3 days. Wardlow is laughable now compared to where he was going into the Punk stuff.

You don't know where I would get the idea that Punk would create drama that doesn't exist? I guess that whole media scrum where Punk created a bunch of drama was all a fever dream.

Punk literally spazzed about Hangman because he didn't want to take his advice. Again, where have you been?

Destor 03-09-2023 06:26 PM

"Oh he was gonna"


Guy has been in the business for over 20 years and he's never once gotten anyone over but himself.

Mr. Nerfect 03-09-2023 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5604268)
"...doesn't mean that those stories weren't going to be realized."

This is AEW. TK has the book. That's exactly what it means. They were going to be forgotten and left behind until 3 years later Darby would randomly go over CM Punk in a meaningless match at the time and a bunch of marks will come running in yelling "LONG TERM STORY TELLING!!!"

Wardlow was "white hot" for about 2 minutes after that. Then he was paired with Joe, then jobbed to Joe, then won the title back, then lost it to Hobbs in 3 days. Wardlow is laughable now compared to where he was going into the Punk stuff.

You don't know where I would get the idea that Punk would create drama that doesn't exist? I guess that whole media scrum where Punk created a bunch of drama was all a fever dream.

Punk literally spazzed about Hangman because he didn't want to take his advice. Again, where have you been?

TK’s incompetent, but Punk had creative input. I’m not saying AEW with him was great. It wasn’t. But that’s the better vision. Punk’s philosophy on how to put pro-wrestling together works better than the spamming and “everything is awesome” approach without vision.

Page ambushed Punk with a promo on Dynamite. TK did nothing about it. Punk shot in the scrum. He didn’t “spaz out.” The fight was when The Bucks went looking for one.

Evil Vito 03-10-2023 09:14 AM

lol according to someone who was at Dynamite/Rampage the other night, Sammy Guevara's entrance for the Rampage main event practically emptied out the arena

Rampage usually struggles keeping people around because of how late into the night it goes, on the East coast it's not ending til 11 PM or so. So out west it'd only be, like, 8 PM. Also the arena this was held at is in the heart of a major common area so it's not even like people were leaving to beat traffic.

It was just like a mass exodus of people saying "Sammy in the main event? K I'm gonna head out"

Mr. Nerfect 03-10-2023 01:37 PM

LolAEW

DaveWadding 03-10-2023 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5604336)
lol according to someone who was at Dynamite/Rampage the other night, Sammy Guevara's entrance for the Rampage main event practically emptied out the arena

Rampage usually struggles keeping people around because of how late into the night it goes, on the East coast it's not ending til 11 PM or so. So out west it'd only be, like, 8 PM. Also the arena this was held at is in the heart of a major common area so it's not even like people were leaving to beat traffic.

It was just like a mass exodus of people saying "Sammy in the main event? K I'm gonna head out"

Seriously, having Sammy main event Rampage is a terrible idea. Almost left when it was him and Andretti in the main. And it was only like 8:30

Sting Fan 03-10-2023 03:42 PM

Sammy’s 100% got that Xpac heat going on.

xrodmuc316 03-10-2023 11:26 PM

Paige and co. are now calling themselves "The Outcast", because spray painting people and calling themselves The Outsiders, oops I mean Outcasts, is totally original! Tiny is such a good booker :roll:

Sepholio 03-11-2023 07:27 AM

lol GCW has filed to oppose AEWs trademark of "Fight Forever" for their game as GCW ran a show with the same title a couple years ago during the pandemic.

ron the dial 03-11-2023 09:22 AM

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

xrodmuc316 03-11-2023 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5604400)
lol GCW has filed to oppose AEWs trademark of "Fight Forever" for their game as GCW ran a show with the same title a couple years ago during the pandemic.

That game is cursed

Mr. Nerfect 03-11-2023 02:26 PM

They’re just stupid.

slik 03-11-2023 05:30 PM

Happy for them getting the $$$...but Tony Khan stretched even more thin booking a third show seems 'not the best'


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