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Seanny One Ball 11-17-2019 09:01 PM

Women's wrestling will always be Jackie Gayda to me

Simple Fan 11-17-2019 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5301991)
Nah. If you build and focus properly, no reason at all why women's wrestling can't be as great as men's singles and men's tag wrestling especially in WWE.

Just takes a lot of time due to the historical disadvantages women have had in the US in wrestling. Only started to really turn around in recent years and not solely because of WWE.

I'm not saying that there can't be great womens wrestling. Just that there is too much of it in WWE right now.

The disadvantage is just being a woman therefore being less athletically coordinated. WWE has put them on TV more is all they've done. With the exception of Becky, Charlotte, and Sasha their women's matches are still piss break segments that are long enough for you to take a shit.

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-17-2019 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5301988)
LAX, Bucks, Lucha Bros, SCU and to some extent Private Party say otherwise for Tag Teams at least.

The Women's division is a joke

Not the real LAX. I don't think people outside the wrestling bubble care about any of them.

Private Party could be something though.

Simple Fan 11-17-2019 10:15 PM

Damn, if they just had Homicide and Hernandez they'd have the tag team advantage.

Lock Jaw 11-17-2019 10:26 PM

Haven't watched any WWE in many months..... But I'd watch if they did an all women's show not on the network

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-17-2019 10:28 PM

why does the network/tv change things?

Damian Rey 2.0 11-17-2019 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5301957)
Yeah their women's division has been AEW's weakest link but it should slowly get better once they get more time under their belt to build things.

Supposedly it was mentioned during Starrcast that they were being hamstrung by visa-related and dates issues with their international talent and until very recently it was starting to get resolved. Same with them still signing new women talent to beef up the division.

I'm a big Shida fan. You know they're going somewhere with the recent Kong build up that's started. It's going to take time because the names they have aren't anywhere near as recognizable as the men's division.

Emperor Smeat 11-17-2019 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 5302010)
I'm not saying that there can't be great womens wrestling. Just that there is too much of it in WWE right now.

The disadvantage is just being a woman therefore being less athletically coordinated. WWE has put them on TV more is all they've done. With the exception of Becky, Charlotte, and Sasha their women's matches are still piss break segments that are long enough for you to take a shit.

That's more of a booking problem and Vince being shit when it comes to deciding big star and spotlight material. They have well than enough talent to avoid "piss break" situations but misuse the division just like every other division in the company.

Them getting more time was eventually going to happen due to WWE hiring a ton of women ever since modern NXT started and needing to cater towards female viewers to salvage their struggling ratings.

The historical disadvantage never had anything to do with athletic ability and instead the dated mindset promoters and fans in general had towards women's wrestling till recent times in the US. Also didn't help that women wrestlers till recently also had fewer options available for quality training and work.

Simple Fan 11-17-2019 10:54 PM

You can't say it has nothing to do with athletic ability.

Lock Jaw 11-17-2019 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5302041)
why does the network/tv change things?

Because I don't want to pay for WWE Network, but would watch it if I could see it for free on TV?

Simple Fan 11-17-2019 11:04 PM

Don't feel bad a lot of people wouldn't pay for pure woman's wrestling.

Seanny One Ball 11-17-2019 11:11 PM

Watching Smokey Mountain Wrestling's Mayhem Battle Royal.

Dixie Dynamite!

Bad News Gertner 11-18-2019 10:32 AM

Lol is the Storm Trooper in it

Seanny One Ball 11-18-2019 01:59 PM

$5,000 18-man "Mountain Mayhem" (Royal Rumble-style) battle royal featuring Dirty White Boy, Jimmy Golden, Tim Horner, "Nature Boy" Buddy Landel, Heavenly Bodies (Stan Lane and Tom Prichard), "Prime Time" Brian Lee, Dixie Dynamite, "Nitro" Danny Davis, Rip Rogers, Doug Furnas, Barry Horowitz, "Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff, Joey Maggs, Robert Gibson, Ben Jordan and Joe Cazana.

No Storm Trooper that I could see.

Seanny One Ball 11-18-2019 02:00 PM

Stan Lane looked like he had a wig on

slik 11-18-2019 03:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It IS weird trying to catch up on 5+ years of rasslin’, I’m doing what I can. There’s bright spots, mostly women from what I can tell. There’s BAD too. I’m gonna talk about it, and no one is safe. Join us. <a href="https://twitter.com/ReneeYoungWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ReneeYoungWWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEonFOX?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEonFOX</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BookerT5x?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BookerT5x</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RealPaigeWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealPaigeWWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/VinceMcMahon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VinceMcMahon</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TonyKhan</a></p>&mdash; CM Pumpkinpie (@CMPunk) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/1196512585375473664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Taggin' Tony Khan lol

Bad News Gertner 11-18-2019 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5302192)
Stan Lane looked like he had a wig on

He did

Emperor Smeat 11-18-2019 05:41 PM

Rumor going around the net is that Triple H might be a member of Team NXT for the Men's Survivor Series match.

Supposedly Triple H isn't fond of the idea but its still being considered according to WrestleVotes.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing that over the past few weeks there has been a push from creative to have Triple H as a member of Team NXT in the men’s elimination match. That idea has been met w/ mixed reactions, including that of The Game. I’m told he does NOT want to be part of the match this Sunday.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1196492945588924416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tom Guycott 11-18-2019 11:30 PM

Because even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he is protesting from a purely magnanimous point of view - that the focus should be on the actual NXT talent and not a hard ploy for more "star power" - even he knows how much shit he would get if he got back in the ring over someone else who should be getting more ring time. He would get all sorts of "gloryhog" backlash.

Seanny One Ball 11-18-2019 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5302209)
He did


What?!

Always?

BigCrippyZ 11-18-2019 11:43 PM

Honestly, who gives a fuck about any of it?

If HHH ends up in the SS match or not, will it actually matter or make any real difference? Yes, in theory it would be "worse" if he did, but will it actually be any better or matter if he didn't? I can tell you the answer to both questions is a quick and simple no.

Also, who gives a fuck about what CM Punk thinks about wrestling at this point? Yeah, he's still outspoken, honest, and probably not wrong, but so what? Him speaking his mind isn't actually going to change anything either way. While, I'm slightly curious to hear his take on things, it doesn't matter what he says as it won't change anything, and I'm certainly not going to go out of my way to check it out. If I happen to come across it, so be it, but I'm not going out of my way, and certainly not to watch live, to simply check out a "WWE" show to see what some has been's take is on the current product. It's pathetic and pointless, like almost everything else WWE tries to do, and it's not even a "true" WWE program.

Bad News Gertner 11-19-2019 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5302435)
What?!

Always?

Not always, but he was losing his hair towards the end of his career.

Seanny One Ball 11-19-2019 11:08 AM

He never lost his sweet sweet Kung Fu kicks though

Emperor Smeat 11-19-2019 03:45 PM

Apparently Adam Cole won't be on the NXT Men's team for Survivor Series since he's now defending the NXT title at the show.

Also means all that time spent showcasing him for NXT's invasion stuff resulted in nothing meaningful in the end in terms of the Survivor Series build itself.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE has announced Pete Dunne vs. Killian Dane vs. Damian Preist for this Wednesday's edition of NXT.<br><br>The winner of the match will face Adam Cole at the Survivor Series on Sunday for the NXT title. <br><br>They have also added O'Reilly &amp; Fish vs. The Revival to Wednesday's show.</p>&mdash; John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1196873055571570688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Droford 11-19-2019 05:35 PM

I get there was no fn way wed get Cole/Fiend/Lesnar but seriously all 3 separate title matches are stupid

They could have at least announced Cole/Fiend/Lesnar, take Adam Cole out in the Wargames match with an injury and stick Finn Balor in his place as the Demon since he has history with Brock and the Fiend at 2 earlier big 4 PPVs this year.

Evil Vito 11-19-2019 05:43 PM

It’s obviously gonna be Dunne since Priest and Dain are heels.

Dunne will also probably be the 4th member of Team Ciampa at War Games.

Emperor Smeat 11-19-2019 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5302570)
I get there was no fn way wed get Cole/Fiend/Lesnar but seriously all 3 separate title matches are stupid

They could have at least announced Cole/Fiend/Lesnar, take Adam Cole out in the Wargames match with an injury and stick Finn Balor in his place as the Demon since he has history with Brock and the Fiend at 2 earlier big 4 PPVs this year.

Yeah just feels like the NXT title got added to the card for the sake of it and not because they bothered to actually build up a title feud for it beforehand.

TakeOver was out of the question since the WarGames build has been UE vs. Ciampa and Pals. Survivor Series build made it seem like Cole was going to be the leader of the NXT Men's team due to the spotlight he was getting before they suddenly changed their minds.

Emperor Smeat 11-20-2019 12:03 AM

AEW might have accidentally spoiled their next big surprise debut based on a recent merch update to their Pro Wrestling Tees store.

SPOILER: show
Among the new stuff listed was a Villain Enterprises hoodie and likely confirming the rumors of Marty Scurll joining the company once his current ROH deal expires.

Scurll's ROH contract expires at the end of this month.

Droford 11-20-2019 12:08 AM

Some office worker at WWE HQ won the 24/7 title

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And then truth won it back later

Vastardikai 11-20-2019 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5302649)
Some office worker at WWE HQ won the 24/7 title

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/nZKmdHHbh8Y" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

And then truth won it back later

First actual employee to win the 24/7 Championship.

Emperor Smeat 11-20-2019 02:45 AM

According to Fightful and Joey Janela, Game Changer Wrestling has managed to become the second best selling wrestling promotion on FITE with only AEW ahead of them.

Pretty amazing considering they specialize in deathmatch and hardcore wrestling but have also done a great job showcasing quality lucha and regular indie wrestling for their shows. Sort of like a modern ECW after taking over that mantle from CZW in recent years.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Janela and GCW just get it. FITE TV's COO raved to me about them recently <a href="https://t.co/LSAQImbQ4R">https://t.co/LSAQImbQ4R</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1196663454003843072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We sell more than any non AEW wrestling show on there..... which Is Low key the coolest wrestling story of the year.... <a href="https://t.co/TubtO7p1IC">https://t.co/TubtO7p1IC</a></p>&mdash; Bad Boy Joey Janela (@JANELABABY) <a href="https://twitter.com/JANELABABY/status/1196664259742240768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Triple A 11-20-2019 02:48 AM

I wonder if he will still do the special GCW shows after the WrestleMania one next year... really wanna go to one next time if it comes to NY... should have went to it this year

Emperor Smeat 11-20-2019 03:20 AM

Probably since he's mentioned before his AEW contract allows him to work for GCW during his free time and he still wants to keep working there from time to time. Those specialty events he runs have been huge money makers so doubt he nor GCW wants to end those any time soon.

A lot of AEW's roster also have similar terms since Luchasaurus and Darby Allin are wrestling at an indies event called Storecade in California this weekend. http://socaluncensored.com/event/storecade/

erickman 11-20-2019 07:35 AM

guess aew wrestlers are close to being indy contracters unlike wwe

Vastardikai 11-20-2019 08:09 AM

I do like the idea of the Bloodsport shows.

Jordan 11-20-2019 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5302647)
AEW might have accidentally spoiled their next big surprise debut based on a recent merch update to their Pro Wrestling Tees store.

SPOILER: show
Among the new stuff listed was a Villain Enterprises hoodie and likely confirming the rumors of Marty Scurll joining the company once his current ROH deal expires.

Scurll's ROH contract expires at the end of this month.

I laugh at those who denied the bond of the Elite. The only reason Scurl stayed at ROH is because he signed his contract at a different time than the other Elite players, and had to stick it out another year. What a fool he would be to go to WWE/NXT and swim amongst so many. In AEW he will be a top guy.

Jordan 11-20-2019 08:54 AM

With Page leaving THE ELITE (watch Being the Elite) I think that once Scurl comes in it will create a natural feud between the two. And Page is best at working the ROH style main event, add in Scurl... yeah it's gonna be the best of ROH on TNT. I love how AEW truly doesn't need any more talent right now. Add in Scurl and all is set. I just want to see them work what they have signed already, with the exception of female talent. Almost all of the female talent they have brought in for one off's are worth signed over the girls like Britt Baker (DMD) and Allie and Brandi.

Droford 11-20-2019 02:43 PM

NXT UK rehearsal and taping revealed

the best part is hearing the voice the announcers can hear which I assume is just like how Vince works in the announcers ear on regular tv

Emperor Smeat 11-20-2019 04:25 PM

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Emperor Smeat 11-20-2019 05:56 PM

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