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Damian Rey 02-03-2015 04:08 AM

If there's one thing I can't stand, it's eliteism. The idea that someone can't have a justifiable or meaningful opinion because they have never "been there" is what's asinine.

Rammsteinmad 02-03-2015 04:51 AM

I've been wrestling now for 11 years, and have cut plenty of in-ring promos. Am I entitled to an opinion, Mr. Reigns?

Shadrick 02-03-2015 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4579600)
If there's one thing I can't stand, it's eliteism. The idea that someone can't have a justifiable or meaningful opinion because they have never "been there" is what's asinine.

To be fair, the IWC is full of this though. Most of the time, its pretty accurate.

Damian Rey 02-03-2015 10:46 AM

Not really. To iwc fans' credit, plenty have been fans for ages and know what they like, and can recognize what's good and what isn't. Being a rather mediocre talent doesn't give Reigns anymore insight or weighted opinion than Rammsteinmad, who's been doing it for a decade.

Innovator 02-03-2015 11:14 AM

http://i.imgur.com/Fqne1Ns.jpg

Volare 02-03-2015 11:17 AM

That picture brings a tear to my eye!

XL 02-03-2015 01:54 PM

When WWE says they have a million Network subscribers, do you think they mean now, or that millionth person has signed up (whilst 1000s of others have unsubscribed)?

Innovator 02-03-2015 02:33 PM

It means that 1,000,000 people have active subscriptions to it. Even if 10,000 cancelled after the Rumble, they still have an active sub until they expire.

Jordan 02-03-2015 03:48 PM

I bet they get another 75,000 or so for the free month.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-03-2015 03:56 PM

They should have the deal pay for March and get Feb free.

Shadrick 02-03-2015 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4579699)
Not really. To iwc fans' credit, plenty have been fans for ages and know what they like, and can recognize what's good and what isn't. Being a rather mediocre talent doesn't give Reigns anymore insight or weighted opinion than Rammsteinmad, who's been doing it for a decade.

But Reigns wasn't necessarily referring to what people like/don't like. An opinion about what you like is different, but what I got from it was, people having to understand how difficult it is, as well as a fundamental aspect. Like when people say "well he's not technically sound." "he doesn't know how to pace a match" how the hell do you know what goes into it if you have no experience?

I do see your point as well.

Damian Rey 02-03-2015 06:07 PM

I can tell you with the utmost confidence I do not know the inner workings of how to pace a match. But I can point out when a guy doesn't have the ability to pace or call a match.

Orton using countless rest holds to draw out his match length wasn't fooling anyone. You nor I need insider perspective or experience to point it out.

Droford 02-03-2015 07:05 PM

http://www.distractionrollup.com/

5 out of 33

I would have bet it was more

Emperor Smeat 02-03-2015 07:08 PM

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Droford 02-03-2015 07:09 PM

Aparently Justin Gabriel one upped CM Punk

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Regarding Justin Gabriel quitting WWE, word is that he decided at the final RAW before the Royal Rumble that he was leaving. Gabriel showed up for RAW that day like usual and once again officials had nothing for him. Gabriel decided he was going to leave the arena in the middle of the day and he did, with one person saying he went sight-seeing and another person saying he went sky-diving.

Gabriel returned to the arena a few hours later and there was still nothing for him to do that night. Gabriel decided right there that he didn't want to be in WWE any more. Gabriel then booked his flight home and in between connecting flights, received a phone call from WWE Talent Relations head Mark Carrano. Carrano told Gabriel that they had booked a RAW segment for him but couldn't find him anywhere in the arena. Gabriel reportedly told Carrano that he left the building and was quitting the company.

Fignuts 02-03-2015 08:10 PM

I think there are a lot of muties in the IWC who fit Reigns' complaints, but at the same time there are plenty of people who have been watching for a long time. You don't watch wrestling for 10+ years and not figure out how it works at all.

I mean I'm not trying to downplay what goes into becoming a good performer, but at the same time, it's not quantum physics. If you're intelligent and watch enough matches, you can at the very least pinpoint who is good and who isn't.

CSL 02-03-2015 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4579699)
Not really. To iwc fans' credit, plenty have been fans for ages and know what they like, and can recognize what's good and what isn't. Being a rather mediocre talent doesn't give Reigns anymore insight or weighted opinion than Rammsteinmad, who's been doing it for a decade.

it absolutely does, it's almost a different business altogether

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4580033)
I can tell you with the utmost confidence I do not know the inner workings of how to pace a match. But I can point out when a guy doesn't have the ability to pace or call a match.

Orton using countless rest holds to draw out his match length wasn't fooling anyone. You nor I need insider perspective or experience to point it out.

you defeated your first point about claiming to know "when a guy doesn't have the ability to pace or call a match" with your Randy Orton comment. Claming Orton uses rest holds to "draw out his match length" is an A+ 'internet wrestling fan'/mutie comment.

CSL 02-03-2015 08:15 PM

totes added mutie to that post after seeing Fignuts using it in the previous one

Blonde Moment 02-03-2015 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4580033)
I can tell you with the utmost confidence I do not know the inner workings of how to pace a match. But I can point out when a guy doesn't have the ability to pace or call a match.

Orton using countless rest holds to draw out his match length wasn't fooling anyone. You nor I need insider perspective or experience to point it out.

Your an idiot. You know as much about wrestling in the Wwe as i do about rocket science, you have no clue as to what instructions these wrestlers are given before they go out and perform nor the skills/ wrestling ability these men possess. It's like listening to some loud mouthed idiot talking about his football Dnd bragging he could coach a team to the superbowl because he thinks he knows more about the game then the people actually involved.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-03-2015 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4580033)
I can tell you with the utmost confidence I do not know the inner workings of how to pace a match. But I can point out when a guy doesn't have the ability to pace or call a match.

Orton using countless rest holds to draw out his match length wasn't fooling anyone. You nor I need insider perspective or experience to point it out.

They shouldn't even be called rest holds. It's a pace-changing hold. It's about going from one part of the match to the next part. It's sort of like an act break but it's not done because either are gassed. It's not about rest it's about pace, tone and psychology. Vince Russo thinks they are a bad thing so they must be pretty great.

Droford 02-03-2015 08:52 PM

I think you could call them rest holds when the matches were going 30+ minutes

Damian Rey 02-03-2015 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4580120)
Your an idiot. You know as much about wrestling in the Wwe as i do about rocket science, you have no clue as to what instructions these wrestlers are given before they go out and perform nor the skills/ wrestling ability these men possess. It's like listening to some loud mouthed idiot talking about his football Dnd bragging he could coach a team to the superbowl because he thinks he knows more about the game then the people actually involved.

You'll see in the first sentence I say I know nothing of the inner workings of wwe nor would anyone else here. That doesn't mean I don't recognize good matches when I see one or can recognize shortcomings of talent, regardless of instruction.

If you think nobody's opinion counts, then what are you doing here? Vince McMahon, Steve Austin, and Hogan's opinions are the only ones that matter then right? That's called elitism. Just because they've done it doesn't mean their opinion or views carry any more validity. If that's the case, damn near every road agent or coach should hang up. Most of them were not mega stars in wwe so what could they possibly offer to talent trying to make it to that point?

And where did I say I could do better than the guys in wwe? Nobody is questioning what they do. My gripe is thinking that because he's a wrestler and most of us are not, there's no way we could ever understand or know what they're talking about. He is wrong on that front.

loopydate 02-03-2015 09:44 PM

I'm not a filmmaker. Yeah, I have a degree in Broadcast & Cinematic Arts so I have a little bit of extra background, but I've never worked in the industry.

But I can tell you which movies are good and which ones aren't, because I've been watching them my whole life.

Same way I can tell which ballplayers are good and which ones aren't.

Or which video games are fun and which ones aren't.

You consume enough of something, you pick up on things like that. Just because I don't have an Oscar, an MVP, or a job with Valve doesn't mean my opinion on these things is irrelevant because I've "never been there."

Damian Rey 02-03-2015 09:49 PM

Exactly. Maybe I've used some asinine examples early on. But we all know how to differentiate good from bad,experienced from green, etc, and quite a few if not the majority of us have wrestled or ever will step in the ring.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-03-2015 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by loopydate (Post 4580154)
I'm not a filmmaker. Yeah, I have a degree in Broadcast & Cinematic Arts so I have a little bit of extra background, but I've never worked in the industry.

But I can tell you which movies are good and which ones aren't, because I've been watching them my whole life.

Same way I can tell which ballplayers are good and which ones aren't.

Or which video games are fun and which ones aren't.

You consume enough of something, you pick up on things like that. Just because I don't have an Oscar, an MVP, or a job with Valve doesn't mean my opinion on these things is irrelevant because I've "never been there."

You've never been there so you don't know is Bret Hart Level Logic.

4/10.

Emperor Smeat 02-03-2015 10:02 PM

Dirtsheets:

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Originally Posted by F4W
We noted before that Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan was the original plan for this year's WWE WrestleMania 31 pay-per-view but it was changed to Bryan vs. Dolph Ziggler some time in the last few weeks. WWE officials are indeed going forward with Bryan vs. Ziggler and we should see that match develop on RAW this week. The change was made because Bryan went to WWE officials and requested a match against Ziggler for WrestleMania 31.

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Last Friday's first-run episode of Impact Wrestling averaged 431,000 viewers, a 17% drop from the week before, which drew 517,000 viewers. However, the replay was up 36% from the prior week at 153,000 viewers. The total viewers for the show was 584,000, only a 3% drop from last week, which totaled 603,000 viewers.
Believe Impact is the highest rated and viewership show on Destination America but still around half below what they were averaging on Spike.

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UFC President Dana White confirmed to The Fight Network that WWE World Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar has no fights left on his MMA contract so legally Lesnar is able to talk with Bellator MMA. There has been some speculation that Bellator couldn't legally negotiate with Lesnar because he may have had some dates left on his UFC deal. Technically, both MMA companies can't legally talk with Lesnar until March when his WWE deal is done.
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Originally Posted by PWI
Next Wednesday's WWE Takeover special has been officially re-titled "NXT Takeover: Rival." The show will be headlined by the first-ever meeting of Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn within NXT, although the two obviously has a storied history as Kevin Steen and El Generico all over the world. The show will also feature NXT Women's champion Charlotte vs. Bayley vs. Becky Lynch vs. Sasha Banks and the finals of the WWE NXT Contender's tournament, which will be officially announced following tomorrow's WWE NXT episode on the WWE Network

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Sin Cara's been wrestling in singles as of late on Raw & Smackdown. And he and Kalisto recently dropped the NXT Tag Team Titles.

It's because creative has been toying with a different gimmick for Kalisto. With the impending loss of Rey Mysterio, and the bust of Sin Cara, WWE is looking for a new masked star to take over, which would have been Kalisto, obviously.

But recently NXT officials tried Kalisto out with a new, unmasked gimmick: a gay hair stylist.

He blew away officials, no pun intended, with his portrayal, to the point that he is seriously being considered doing that gimmick instead of continuing with the Kalisto gimmick.
Source is from Reddit's MetsFan4Ever who has been very hit or miss recently.


Other sheet news include Vince Russo's interview with Challenge TV confirming what others have said about Dixie being the biggest source of TNA's problems and David Otunga is now part of RAWs pre-show host lineup (may or may not end up replacing Riley's spot).

VSG 02-03-2015 10:39 PM

Lol at the Kalisto rumor :'(

Droford 02-03-2015 10:42 PM

Gay Hair Stylist?
https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru...uit%20wwe.png?

Dark One 02-03-2015 10:45 PM

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Sin Cara's been wrestling in singles as of late on Raw & Smackdown. And he and Kalisto recently dropped the NXT Tag Team Titles.

It's because creative has been toying with a different gimmick for Kalisto. With the impending loss of Rey Mysterio, and the bust of Sin Cara, WWE is looking for a new masked star to take over, which would have been Kalisto, obviously.

But recently NXT officials tried Kalisto out with a new, unmasked gimmick: a gay hair stylist.

He blew away officials, no pun intended, with his portrayal, to the point that he is seriously being considered doing that gimmick instead of continuing with the Kalisto gimmick.
I think we all know how this ends.

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_la...opedia-353.jpg

Edit: Well played, Droford.

Droford 02-03-2015 10:47 PM

Replace billy and chuck with Konor and Victor..the ASSention

Gives new meaning to "born and bred to rip and shred"

Droford 02-03-2015 10:48 PM

Fall of man... Fall for man

Droford 02-03-2015 11:00 PM

He could be a gay hair stylist if he went to Brutus Beefcakes Barber Academy and got to carry around tge oversized garden shears

Jura 02-04-2015 12:05 AM

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Jura 02-04-2015 12:08 AM

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Emperor Smeat 02-04-2015 12:37 AM

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Wishbone 02-04-2015 01:25 AM

So, for the first time since 2006 I actually didn't watch RAW this week and opted to go to the movies instead. Out of curiosity, did I miss anything big? No spoilers if you'd please, but I would like to know if it was actually worth digging for online.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-04-2015 01:26 AM

Affirmative.

Wishbone 02-04-2015 01:40 AM

Ah, alrighty then. I'll try and catch it some time this week then.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-04-2015 01:55 AM

Austin/HHH interview "podcast" was good too.

Mr. Nerfect 02-04-2015 03:14 AM

Jesus, does Nattie look good in that workout photo or what?

Disturbed316 02-04-2015 04:30 AM

Yup

Mr. Nerfect 02-04-2015 09:58 AM

I really wish that instead of just throwing Paige into a match with Nikki Bella at Fast Lane, that they'd have had Paige and Nattie have a ladies match that would have torn the house down. I mean why not?

I also wish that William Regal's old relationship with Layla would bring her down NXT way. There are a few girls jockeying for position down there, but I think Layla would get more time to shine as a personality in NXT. She could be a sort of dark mentor to Sasha Banks. She'd give Banks someone to take the fall for her that isn't a young NXT star in her own right.

Big Vic 02-04-2015 01:00 PM

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Black Widow 02-04-2015 02:43 PM

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Lock Jaw 02-04-2015 02:57 PM

You don't need to post your sig every time you post......


........ but I'll allow it.

Poit 02-04-2015 03:16 PM

John Cena on Total Divas:

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GD 02-04-2015 03:54 PM

Would love to see Cena wrestle in trunks.

Poit 02-04-2015 04:44 PM

Full video, for anyone interested:

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Rammsteinmad 02-04-2015 06:23 PM

Fucking hate the Bellas, Divas-reality TV shows and everything in the world ever.

John Cena is the man, though. :y:

Volare 02-04-2015 06:59 PM

On Youtube there's someone that posts only the segments Paige was in so I watch those.

Emperor Smeat 02-04-2015 07:33 PM

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Lock Jaw 02-04-2015 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Volare (Post 4580604)
On Youtube there's someone that posts only the segments Paige was in so I watch those.

Please link

Blue Demon 02-04-2015 08:00 PM

The Rock's connection to my home Province :cool:

http://metronews.ca/news/halifax/127...star-the-rock/

Volare 02-04-2015 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4580622)
Please link

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Emperor Smeat 02-04-2015 09:25 PM

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The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that Ring of Honor is currently dealing with a lot of financial issues that basically come from Sinclair Broadcasting, which owns ROH, not getting more behind the company.

COO Joe Koff met with head officials at Sinclair back in December to try and get them to expand the budgets for 2015 and 2016, pushing the idea that ROH could become the #2 wrestling promotion in the country. Koff brought Adam Cole and The Briscoes to the meeting for them to do pro wrestling style promos on how TNA was losing steam moving to Destination America and that ROH could become #2 in the US. The pitch reportedly failed.

ROH's December pay-per-view, their second show on standard PPV, did just 8,000 buys and that didn't help things either. The 8,000 number is said to be under the company projections but not by a large number.

Sinclair officials told Koff to be more disciplined with spending this year. There's a feeling that Sinclair wants ROH for consistent programming on their network but are not interested in investing a lot or taking chances to build them.

These financial issues are the reason why talents like Roderick Strong, Maria Kanellis and Mike Bennett aren't under contract. As noted before, TNA, Lucha Underground and New Japan Pro Wrestling all have interest in signing the duo of Kanellis and Bennett.
Also possibly related to why this year's NJPW-ROH crossover show will have less guys from NJPW showing up.

Fignuts 02-04-2015 09:28 PM

Every thing I've heard about Sinclair has implied that they have no idea what they're doing, and that ROH made a big mistake getting involved with them.

Innovator 02-04-2015 09:42 PM

Can we start a fan club for Becky Lynch and call it the Lynch
Mob?

Volare 02-04-2015 09:54 PM

All hail the titty master!

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VSG 02-04-2015 10:24 PM

That ROH stuff reminds me of the end days of ECW

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-05-2015 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by VSG (Post 4580676)
That ROH stuff reminds me of the end days of ECW

Defo.

Vastardikai 02-05-2015 12:21 AM

So how long til it's revealed that Vince has secretly bailed them out at times.

Emperor Smeat 02-05-2015 12:36 AM

According to F4W, the rumor about Kalisto becoming a gay hairstylist was debunked from their sources while Ziggler vs Bryan is no longer being considered as a possible Mania matchup at the moment.

NormanSmiley 02-05-2015 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4580598)
Fucking hate the Bellas, Divas-reality TV shows and everything in the world ever.

John Cena is the man, though. :y:

please don't write the 2nd sentence! quit while you are making a solid point

Tom Guycott 02-05-2015 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by VSG (Post 4580676)
That ROH stuff reminds me of the end days of ECW

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 4580703)
So how long til it's revealed that Vince has secretly bailed them out at times.

About the same time we lose one of the guys on commentary from RAW due to a situation with his wife, and he gets replaced with Nigel McGinnis

Rammsteinmad 02-05-2015 06:39 AM

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Innovator 02-05-2015 09:38 AM

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SlickyTrickyDamon 02-05-2015 01:19 PM

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That match made Steve Austin look like a huge asshole.

Innovator 02-05-2015 04:34 PM

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Emperor Smeat 02-05-2015 04:41 PM

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Lock Jaw 02-05-2015 06:45 PM

Lesnar wiping Hogan's blood on his chest is one of my all time favourite moments :y:

Emperor Smeat 02-05-2015 07:46 PM

Dirtsheets:

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Originally Posted by Observer
We were told that Reigns was originally set to beat a top heel and that Bryan was to be used to get Bray Wyatt over for Undertaker in the original plans.

Rumors for a while was Reigns vs Big Show or Reigns/Orton vs Big Show/Rollins for Fastlane.

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Another story regarding the perception of WWE right now. Someone that I know who works in TV ad sales was working with Dodge, which had bought time on shows that underperformed in the ratings, so they were owed make good spots. The person suggested since the ads were essentially free at this point, to make good, how about moving some spots to Raw, since it draws well in the 18-49 demo, which is the demo that buys cars. The advertiser when given the suggestion first said that WWE would not be something they would ever purchase. There were reasons given, having to do with a theme WWE was doing locally that made the company more advertiser friendly in theory in that market. Still, the response was, “I do understand that but WWE doesn’t make sense for Dodge Dart. WWE is very trashy. Not, appropriate for our target.”
Even with the PG Era, WWE still having trouble getting more big advertisers on board (and more money for them).

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Originally Posted by Observer
Corbin pinned Dempsey in 1:31 with the end of days, which is a delayed downward spiral. The fans aren’t nearly as much into Corbin now that he doesn’t win in 30 seconds and they can’t count the seconds until it ends. We’ve heard Dempsey is likely to be repackaged.

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Originally Posted by F4W
There’s a lot of speculation that Daniel Bryan vs. Dolph Ziggler at WrestleMania 31 may have been nixed after Bryan vs. Reigns in a #1 contender’s match was made for WWE Fast Lane.

It’s still not confirmed that Bryan vs. Ziggler was nixed so Bryan could face Brock Lesnar for the WWE World Heavyweight Title at WrestleMania 31, and most expect Lesnar vs. Reigns to still happen, but there’s already talk that Ziggler may be in tag team action at WrestleMania 31.

SPOILER: show
Ziggler and Ryback will team up on tonight’s SmackDown and apparently there’s a reason for tonight’s match. WWE officials are considering putting the two together as a permanent tag team and have them wrestle together at WrestleMania 31.

Spoiler used since its relates to this week's Smackdown episode.

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Former UFC star Chael Sonnen claimed during a TSN “Off the Record” appearance that WWE had invited both him and Wanderlei Silva to WrestleMania this year to talk business. WWE has since issued a statement denying any invitation has been made to have Sonnen attend WrestleMania.

According to The Wrestling Observer, WWE has wanted to work with Chael Sonnen for quite sometime, however when he tested positive for steroids, WWE decided to back off on negotiating with him until the steroid heat/label ran its course. Once ESPN began working with Sonnen and made his name more mainstream again, it seemed likely WWE would once again pursue negotiations.

With regards to why WWE might be wanting to negotiate with Sonnen and/or Silva, speculation is everything from pro wrestling to them having an exhibition fight. At one point, WWE was interested in having Sonnen work for the company as an announcer.
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Originally Posted by Observer
Regarding all the criticism of the Rumble match, Jamie Noble was the producer of the match with Joey Mercury as the assistant. Also involved in putting the match together were Michael Hayes, Pat Patterson and Brian James. That’s probably why James wasn’t happy when he went on Twitter and people were calling it the worst Rumble ever. I’ll bet Lucha Underground did their own version with fewer than five agents and spending a whole lot less time on it and came out with a three times as good match even while having less name talent at their disposal.

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Originally Posted by Observer
One week after WWE had confirmed and gone full steam ahead with Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns as the WrestleMania main event, things may have changed.

On the 2/2 Raw show from Denver, a promised major announcement was that Daniel Bryan would face Seth Rollins on the show, in a match Bryan won. The winner would then face Reigns on the 2/22 Fast Lane PPV in Memphis to determine who faces Lesnar at WrestleMania.

The show saw Reigns positioned heelish in a late show confrontation with Bryan, and again in a face-to-face on Smackdown. Reigns also inexplicably lost to Big Show in what is believed to have been his first singles loss on the main roster after more than two years, or at least on a major show, which was thrown away in a meaningless situation that was never even brought up.

If the idea is to go with Reigns as the hot babyface, the guy he should be kept away from is Bryan, who is considerably more popular. With Bryan having already gotten screwed in the eyes of the fans at Royal Rumble, having him lose to Reigns will only infuriate the fans more. If the belief is that making the fans madder will heat up business, the post-Rumble boost of WWE Network numbers could be taken as evidence of that, well, then they can go put Reigns in a situation where in the end it’s going to hurt him getting over. And there is also a situation where you push too hard in always beating the most popular face and it starts to wear our and backfires.

If the idea is to go with Reigns as a heel champion, then beating Bryan would make sense, but he would need someone to talk for him in that situation. It does make sense since he’d have far more viable opponents as a heel champion, since as a face champion you’re pretty well limited to Rusev and Rollins.


Some other sheet news include the WWE only has Triple H vs Sting set in stone for Mania with everything else being reconsidered (ex. Reigns vs Lesnar) or likely dropped (ex. Orton vs Rollins because of Orton's injury status).

Innovator 02-05-2015 08:00 PM

I hope Brock resigns so we can get a baby face run

Poit 02-05-2015 09:22 PM

You mean re-signs?

Simple Fan 02-05-2015 10:00 PM

[QUOTECuts;4580653]Every thing I've heard about Sinclair has implied that they have no idea what they're doing, and that ROH made a big mistake getting involved with them.[/QUOTE]

ROH on WWE network. lol

owenbrown 02-05-2015 10:02 PM

wasn't Noble the producer of LAST YEAR'S Rumble as well?!

loopydate 02-05-2015 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4580974)
That match made Steve Austin look like a huge asshole.

He didn't need that match to look like an asshole.

Granted it certainly didn't help.

Savio 02-05-2015 10:09 PM

Just caught Lesnar spitting on Hogan

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-05-2015 10:12 PM

Clicked that spoiler. I think I'm gonna be sick.

Poit 02-05-2015 10:21 PM

http://i.imgur.com/hWh8AR6.gif

Poit 02-05-2015 10:28 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wjlvVSkcsYQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Dark One 02-06-2015 01:06 AM

Catsaro is the best.

<iframe src="https://vid.me/e/NoYM" width="640" height="358" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen scrolling="no"></iframe><div><a href="https://vid.me/NoYM?source=embed" style="font-size: 11pt; text-decoration: none;">Double Date Between Uso's and Catsaro (and Natayla) - Main Event - 03.02.2015</a></div>

GD 02-06-2015 03:26 AM

So glad to have the Network again. I thoroughly missed NXT. Charlotte :love:

XL 02-06-2015 04:40 AM

No SmackDown Spoilers this week? How insignificant can this show get?

JimmyMess 02-06-2015 08:47 AM

I saw some thing about Chael Sonnen and some other guy being invited to go to Wrestlemania and whatever.... and then WWE denied it and.... then a bunch of stuff..


who cares? Why is that a headline? Its just two dudes. Stupid. Stupid dildo factory.

Kris P Lettus 02-06-2015 09:10 AM

Lol "just two dudes"

Innovator 02-06-2015 12:13 PM

His correct name is Chael P. Sonnen, former UFC Middleweight Champion and American Gangster

Vastardikai 02-06-2015 12:52 PM

Sonnen is a better heel than most of the WWE's heels.

Mercenary 02-06-2015 02:24 PM

http://p.fod4.com/p/media/c52f6ad850...0Explosion.gif


blink and you'll miss it.

Droford 02-06-2015 02:35 PM

#axelmania can happen on the WWE network. Give him 5 minutes before the WM preshow.

VSG 02-06-2015 03:18 PM

FELLA

Emperor Smeat 02-06-2015 04:55 PM

https://38.media.tumblr.com/7cf42e91...luu2o1_500.gif

Shadrick 02-06-2015 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4581511)

thats a hell of a sell and a hell of a spot

Lock Jaw 02-06-2015 08:40 PM

Few weeks behind on my NXT... Spoilers on the main page....

Droford 02-06-2015 09:09 PM

Tna should paint their cage something besides black.. It blends in with the dark crowd too well almost looks like there isnt a cage

Simple Fan 02-06-2015 09:39 PM

Or just light up the crowd.

Droford 02-06-2015 09:44 PM

"This is awesome.. KONG"

Simple Fan 02-06-2015 09:48 PM

Mathews mentioned WWE.

Droford 02-06-2015 10:04 PM

Turnbuckle cam is pretty cool

Droford 02-06-2015 10:10 PM

Kurt: "i dont want your title":shifty:

Kris P Lettus 02-06-2015 11:52 PM

http://i.imgur.com/v3OwcAR.gif


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