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Triple Naitch 12-06-2010 01:26 PM

The unlucky number of $126 million.

Barry Zito, Vernon Wells, Jayson Werth.

screech 12-06-2010 01:33 PM

Was really hoping Werth would go to a contending team. Don't blame him for cashing in, though.

screech 12-06-2010 01:37 PM

Have the Tigers expressed interest in Crawford? Not sure why, but I picture them getting him somehow.

screech 12-06-2010 01:47 PM

Pat Gillick's top five moves with the Phillies, according to Todd Zolecki:

1. Signing Jayson Werth.
2. Trading Bobby Abreu.
3. Trading Jim Thome.
4. Trading for Jamie Moyer.
5. Trading for Brad Lidge.

http://zozone.mlblogs.com/archives/2...ll_of_fam.html

Evil Vito 12-06-2010 02:26 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Adrian Gonzalez and the Red Sox agree on 8 years, $161 million</font>

Evil Vito 12-06-2010 02:26 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Orioles get: 3B Mark Reynolds

Diamondbacks get: RHP David Hernandez and RHP Kam Mickolio</font>

Splaya 12-06-2010 02:49 PM

We have had very little interest in Crawford. So if you guys have heard something about the Tigers getting him do share

DaveWadding 12-06-2010 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3347147)
<font color=goldenrod>Orioles get: 3B Mark Reynolds

Diamondbacks get: RHP David Hernandez and RHP Kam Mickolio</font>

See? You don't have to trade away your 5 tool stud to get nice things in return.

DaveWadding 12-06-2010 03:03 PM

According to Jon Heyman of SI.com, the Diamondbacks are "looking hard" at free agent first baseman Derrek Lee.

Make it happen, Towers. DO IT.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-06-2010 03:04 PM

It seems like Baltimore is in a permanent identity crisis. Are they rebuilding or not?

weather vane 12-06-2010 03:10 PM

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Evil Vito 12-06-2010 05:16 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Adrian Beltre is 31 and has 1,889 hits. Wow, didn't think he had that many.

If he plays 7 more years and averages around 160, he can make it to 3,000. If he plays longer than that his odds of reaching that get even better.

3,000 seems to be automatic induction. Hard to fathom that Adrian fucking Beltre actually has a realistic chance of getting in.</font>

Jeritron 12-06-2010 05:48 PM

I don't think he does

Droford 12-06-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 3347184)
See? You don't have to trade away your 5 tool stud to get nice things in return.

The Os didnt have a 5 tool stud to start with. I feel like this is trading 2 cans of spam for some ground chuck. They might be able to turn Reynolds around and have a semi-decent 3B, but at the end of the day they've still got a career avg .240 hitter with 35 HRs thats struck out 200 times 3 straight years.

People are arguing that the ks are fine because he's not hitting into double plays but at the same point if he k's with runners on and 2 outs it ends the inning anyway so it doesnt matter. About the only thing I like about him is that I think he had 80 walks last year which would have led the Os, he had the 5th highest pitch per PA in the majors...

Also from what Ive read, he doesnt want to come to Baltimore which sounds like a recipe for disaster.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3347189)
It seems like Baltimore is in a permanent identity crisis. Are they rebuilding or not?

The Orioles are just trying to field a team that won't be as embarassingly awful as they were the first half of last year. 3B was definitely a major hole after the Atkins and Josh Bell experiments bombed and they didnt have anyone else in the system, and the same goes for 1B, SS. They have a lot of good young pitchers but they are not all panning out so it would be nice to have a decent veteran SP too.

Nervous Ferret 12-06-2010 06:05 PM

Would you want to come to Baltimore?

Supreme Olajuwon 12-06-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3347367)
Adrian Beltre is 31 and has 1,889 hits. Wow, didn't think he had that many.

If he plays 7 more years and averages around 160, he can make it to 3,000. If he plays longer than that his odds of reaching that get even better.

3,000 seems to be automatic induction. Hard to fathom that Adrian fucking Beltre actually has a realistic chance of getting in.

He also started playing when he was 19 so he had a bit of a head start.

Jeritron 12-06-2010 06:24 PM

Averaging 160 hits every year for 7-8 years (in your 30s) would be hard for a player who has only done it a few times in their career to begin with.

He's more in the 140-150 range at best, and I don't think things are uphill for Adrian Beltre. Last year wasn't really something that's going to happen consistently. It was a nice spike year for a likey-over the hill steroid era player.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-06-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nervous Ferret (Post 3347448)
Would you want to come to Baltimore?

Only people who want to come to Baltimore are the Yankees, Red Sox, Blue Jays and Rays to kick their asses 9 times a year.

Jeritron 12-06-2010 07:08 PM

And Boston/NY fans who go to watch it

Aguakate 12-06-2010 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nervous Ferret (Post 3347448)
Would you want to come to Baltimore?

Don't see why not. They have a beautiful ballpark, nice uniforms, a young team full of talent, and Buck Showalter as Manager. If you're looking for the right fit, and not necessarily a contending team, then I don't see why you wouldn't go to Baltimore.

ClockShot 12-06-2010 07:54 PM

Andy Pettitte is thinking more of retirement than return.

Not good.

Aguakate 12-06-2010 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 3347611)
Andy Pettitte is thinking more of retirement than return.

Not good.

Andy Pettitte is starting to become the Brett Favre of New York Baseball.

Hanso Amore 12-06-2010 08:15 PM

All the more reason that they need to make Lee happen.

Skippord 12-06-2010 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3347590)
Don't see why not. They have a beautiful ballpark, nice uniforms, a young team full of talent, and Buck Showalter as Manager. If you're looking for the right fit, and not necessarily a contending team, then I don't see why you wouldn't go to Baltimore.

because you don't want to be shot in the face

DaveWadding 12-06-2010 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3347442)
The Os didnt have a 5 tool stud to start with.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/.../broken650.jpg

Skippord 12-06-2010 08:36 PM

that bat actually broke from the very presence of Justin Upton

Skippord 12-07-2010 04:50 AM

Jim Tracy collapsed at the Winter Meetings

I am blaming Scott Boras until otherwise informed

Hardkore Kidd J 12-07-2010 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 3347098)
Have the Tigers expressed interest in Crawford? Not sure why, but I picture them getting him somehow.

It all depends we have about 2 teams maybe even 3 above Baltimore that want Crawford.

1. Red Sox(After not getting Werth I think the Sox are gonna go hard after him.

2. Angels(They're still in the mix right?)

3. Yankees (Right now it's been said that Carl is our "Plan B" If Lee doesn't come here then the Yankees are going hard after Crawford. Now, who knows they could sign both Crawford and Lee. But, we have Gardner The Yankees love Brett Gardner and he's been doing better so it could go either way)

ClockShot 12-07-2010 08:07 AM

A's don't get a deal done with Hisashi Iwakuma. He goes back to Japan, A's get their $19 mil. back.

Kevin Towers doing work in Arizona. Signed J.J. Putz and Melvin Mora.

Hardkore Kidd J 12-07-2010 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 3348748)
A's don't get a deal done with Hisashi Iwakuma. He goes back to Japan, A's get their $19 mil. back.

Kevin Towers doing work in Arizona. Signed J.J. Putz and Melvin Mora.

I forget who does Towers get for Mark Reynolds?

ClockShot 12-07-2010 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardkore Kidd J (Post 3348753)
I forget who does Towers get for Mark Reynolds?

D-Backs get relievers David Hernandez and Kam Mickolio. O's get a PTBNL or Cash in the future to go along with Reynolds.

Evil Vito 12-07-2010 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3347475)
He also started playing when he was 19 so he had a bit of a head start.

<font color=goldenrod>I was shocked tbh. I didn't realize he had been in the league that long.

Of course, his 2004 contract and subsequent dropoff screams steroids. Think that was the last year before they started a proper Wellness Program.</font>

Evil Vito 12-07-2010 11:35 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Nationals are gonna offer a 7-year deal to Cliff Lee.

Holy shit.</font>

Loose Cannon 12-07-2010 11:42 AM

I'm liking this Nationals owner. he's going all out

Innovator 12-07-2010 11:43 AM

Wow, Natinals grew a pair

The Pope 12-07-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 3347184)
See? You don't have to trade away your 5 tool stud to get nice things in return.

The all time strike out record in baltimore is like 160, That will be broken :lol:

Evil Vito 12-07-2010 11:50 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Better than him going to the Phillies at least. Halladay-Lee-Oswalt-Hamels. I could be the 5th starter and it'd still be the best rotation in baseball.</font>

Loose Cannon 12-07-2010 11:52 AM

http://americansportsblog.files.word...pg?w=440&h=350

Give em ALL SEVEN YEARS!!!!!

Evil Vito 12-07-2010 11:54 AM

<font color=goldenrod>A team source said it isn't happening.

Looks like this might have been more typical Winter Meetings bullshit where rumors are reported as facts.</font>

The Pope 12-07-2010 11:57 AM

Trading Reynolds saves Dbacks $13 million next two seasons, players coming back make a little more than league minimum of 400K each


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