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Lock Jaw 05-21-2020 04:28 PM

Random clip from Doom Patrol season 1:

SPOILER: show
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Seanny One Ball 05-22-2020 01:33 PM

I gave Justice League 2.5/4 which was pretty generous in retrospect. I have seen it twice since then and it's probably more of a 2/4 film.

Zach Snyder seems to be trying to destroy Superman for everybody.

Lock Jaw 05-22-2020 02:36 PM

I seem to have rated it an 8/10 at the time. Would probably go a bit lower now.

But I did actually enjoy it. Not great, and nowhere near what a Justice League movie could be or should be..... but many a Marvel movie that I would rewatch Justice League over rewatching them.

Lock Jaw 05-22-2020 02:37 PM

Read a thing the other day that the Justice Society is gonna be in the Black Adam movie, and depending on how well Black Adam does, they are "keeping in mind" the option of a future JSA movie (nothing in development, just that they are open to it).

Seanny One Ball 05-22-2020 03:05 PM

I put all of my eggs in the Shazam basket and I regret nothing.

Though Aquaman really was a good film. It has a few runtime issues but it's up there, easily the best besides Shazam.

Seanny One Ball 05-22-2020 03:07 PM

I think The Rock playing heel again will be a real treat. I'm looking forward to it.

Lock Jaw 05-22-2020 04:11 PM

Aquaman I'd put up there as one of the best modern superhero movies....

slik 05-22-2020 04:21 PM

I also liked Shazam and Aquaman


I've always been a Shazam Fan in general

slik 05-22-2020 04:21 PM

This is a good Shazam series, you can read it online free here...


https://readcomicsonline.ru/comic/shazam-2018

Seanny One Ball 05-22-2020 09:39 PM

Imagine being the studio head that thought "I'm giving Aquaman to horror auteur James Wan" just before he made them a billion dollars.

The balls!

Destor 05-23-2020 01:28 AM

I gave JL a 6/10 and i was def right

Seanny One Ball 05-23-2020 01:49 AM

3/5 shows benefit of the doubt, which is fair.
I think it was fair +

Lock Jaw 06-09-2020 12:49 AM

Haven't finished the last season of The Flash, but the actor who plays Elongated Man has been fired from the show for some racist misogynistic tweets he made in the past or something.....

Kalyx triaD 06-09-2020 11:10 AM

HBO's going balls deep in Snyder's DC universe. Things about to be complicated.

drave 06-10-2020 09:08 AM

As things do when one goes balls deep into them.

Destor 06-10-2020 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5350229)
Haven't finished the last season of The Flash, but the actor who plays Elongated Man has been fired from the show for some racist misogynistic tweets he made in the past or something.....

i read them. Tame is an understatement

slik 06-10-2020 04:21 PM

Sounds like the issue of Batman w/ Punchline (Joker's new girlfriend) has been selling extremely well, might be the most bought issue of Batman in a long time

slik 06-10-2020 04:22 PM

DC canned it's long-time relationship w/ Diamond, who distributed all of DC and Marvel comics. They are using two smaller publishing houses now. A lot of people wondering if this will hurt or help comic book shops, because they will have to pay more money on shipping now to get comics in, especially outside the U.S.

slik 06-10-2020 04:26 PM

bleedingcool.com reporting all previous plans, like the big 5G "age out all the heroes" stuff is off the table permanently now that Didio is out.


Bleedingcool hinting DC is looking to get away from monthly printed comics in the next several years because ATT/WarnerMedia see the fast turn around time for printing, rushed editing and it just doesn't make sense in 2020 financially....Said in the next few years expect DC to shift more towards Original Graphic Novels, especially geared towards teens, as recent OGNs have sold really, really well (slik note: I liked the Catwoman one, "Under The Moon") and there is no rush to get them to press. They also won't have to worry about continuity, as all OGNs take place in their own, contained universe. DC recently signed a big deal with book publishing magnate Penguin Books, who will help market and distribute all future OGNs. Moving away gradually from monthly comics is rumored to be part of the reason they canned Diamond as well.


BleedingCool.com speculates if monthly comics exist in a few years, it will be less titles and likely all digital release only.

slik 06-10-2020 04:48 PM

To give you an idea of what that future might look like....Here all the recent original graphic novels DC has done so far (the art in the Dick Grayson one was cool)


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slik 06-10-2020 05:06 PM

And here are the upcoming OGNs


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(House of EL Book One: The Shadow Threat)
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slik 06-10-2020 05:43 PM

First look at Punchline

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Lock Jaw 06-10-2020 06:41 PM

Read the Mera one.... and that's it....

I think getting away from monthly comics is actually not a bad idea.... just been chugging along for so long.... goes through so many peaks and valleys in terms of storytelling..... graphic novels allow them to just tell stories "as they come" and "develop them more"....

Something like their Earth One graphic novels would be good.... like instead of monthly Superman/Batman/Etc.... you just get occasional graphic novels that form a continuity.... (and then you can continue to do all the non-continuity graphic novels too)

slik 06-10-2020 06:43 PM

I wish they'd do more Earth One stuff

I really enjoyed the Superman Earth One series

Damian Rey 2.0 06-11-2020 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5350423)
bleedingcool.com reporting all previous plans, like the big 5G "age out all the heroes" stuff is off the table permanently now that Didio is out.


Bleedingcool hinting DC is looking to get away from monthly printed comics in the next several years because ATT/WarnerMedia see the fast turn around time for printing, rushed editing and it just doesn't make sense in 2020 financially....Said in the next few years expect DC to shift more towards Original Graphic Novels, especially geared towards teens, as recent OGNs have sold really, really well (slik note: I liked the Catwoman one, "Under The Moon") and there is no rush to get them to press. They also won't have to worry about continuity, as all OGNs take place in their own, contained universe. DC recently signed a big deal with book publishing magnate Penguin Books, who will help market and distribute all future OGNs. Moving away gradually from monthly comics is rumored to be part of the reason they canned Diamond as well.


BleedingCool.com speculates if monthly comics exist in a few years, it will be less titles and likely all digital release only.

This is kinda cool actually. After they rebooted the new 52 I stopped collecting Batman. If they came out with a few graphic novels a yr I'd be happy to fork over the cash for a long read as opposed to watching a storyline play out over a yr or so.

Lock Jaw 06-11-2020 12:34 AM

Like, I think monthly comic books "peaked" a long time ago, like early 2000s maybe..... and since then just been awkwardly dragging things out, rebooting, reshuffling, retooling, just trying to fill every month with content..... still have some good peaks in there no doubt, but overall just doesn't have that "momentum" behind it.....

slik 06-11-2020 12:49 AM

That's my take too @Damian Rey


The endless 'event series' have sort of done me in too...their next one by Scott Snyder, DEATH METAL, is supposed to somehow tie in ALL of DC History but here's the thing....that is like EVERY DC 'event series' now. It gets so silly after a while when DC is like, ok let's make our little mythology even more complex by adding another hidden layer to it and another biggest bad of all-time.

I think the last big events I enjoyed were either FLASHPOINT or BLACKEST NIGHT. DC's obsession with it's own continuity has become way too complex. Just tell me a good story.

Damian Rey 2.0 06-11-2020 12:55 AM

I've never bothered reading those because they just seem needlessly convoluted. I loved Snyder's run on the new 52 reboot of Batman. Court of owls and zero year were stellar. I'd love you see more big stories like that in one long read.

slik 06-11-2020 12:57 AM

I also started avoiding anything to do w Brian Michael Bendis as a writer. When he came to DC as the genius of Marvel, who birthed so many things that found their way into the MCU I thought 'cool, time for a fresh voice'.


Everything I've read he's written in DC so far has been a massive waste of time. NOTHING HAPPENS I want to estimate 80-90% of the time in his plots. And the things that do, are never elaborated on or explained. He has done more harm to Superman as a character than any writer I think ever. Supes was in such a good place too when Bendis took over as it's new creative auteur. The entire Superfamily is a huge mess now, just a massive, massive mess. I wanted to see how he would handle an event series so I gave his Leviathan series a shot and that was the final straw. That was the worst 'event series' I have ever read and the most pointless. NOTHING HAPPENED. It could have been one-issue, not six.


The plot, based on a big mystery, which happens off-panel, has a stupid twist no one could guess because the big reveal involved someone who had not appeared in the book. And then it was left open-ended with zero resolution. DC of course stupidly promoted it as something that would change DC forever.

Lock Jaw 06-11-2020 01:06 AM

To me, I think things peaked when they had the JLA/JSA/Young Justice books going.

Damian Rey 2.0 06-11-2020 01:07 AM

The positive about doing graphic novels 3 or 4 times a yr is that you can treat them like movies. One big story that'd typically span a year or so if published monthly. Also the writers could take their time.

slik 06-11-2020 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5350608)
I've never bothered reading those because they just seem needlessly convoluted. I loved Snyder's run on the new 52 reboot of Batman. Court of owls and zero year were stellar. I'd love you see more big stories like that in one long read.

I love those too. Court of Owls I thought could be cool villains in a bat-film someday.


I think at this point if I'm following DC mythology correctly...The multiverse was created by Perpetua who is the mom of the Anti-Monitor and Monitor and she wants to turn it evil and use it (the multiverse) as a weapon to destroy all of the other multiverses (because there can't just be one) because there is now an "omniverse" of unlimited multiverses created by whatever type of being Perpetua is. And the reason we've never heard of her before during any of the umpteen mulitverse events is because she was trapped in the Source Wall, which shielded DC's multiverse from the omniverse. But there is also, now, of course, THE DARK MULTIVERSE, which is made up worlds deemed not good enough for the multiverse. And Perpetua needs to control the dark multiverse to control the multiverse so she can destroy the omniverse.


Or something like that. Until DC reboots with some other god-awful idea that will probably be crafted by Bendis and make zero sense. Definitely not convoluted at all, I can't understand why you have avoided these things Damian!

Damian Rey 2.0 06-11-2020 01:15 AM

Yeah fuck that nonsense.

Agree on Court of Owls as movie villains. Maybe if Reeves' Pattinson led bat movie does well he'll go to them next. Seems to fit his style of villainy.

Here's the other thing I'd love about OGN; the art would stay consistent. I hate reading graphic novels that are told thru different character issues. Always takes me out of it whenthe art changes.

slik 06-11-2020 01:16 AM

And I like w/ OGNs they could tell the story, through one or four graphic novels and then boom, someone else could tell a totally different story without worrying about continuity. Just focused on good stories and nice art.

slik 06-11-2020 03:01 AM

wrap it up asap


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;I'm heading toward the end of my run on Superman. So I've been more reflective on it and...I will never be more grateful than I got to heal my near-death experience through Superman and then get through this pandemic.&quot; - <a href="https://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BRIANMBENDIS</a> in his interview on &quot;Off Panel&quot;.</p>&mdash; Comic Boom! - Shakalaka Boom! (@Metropolis40) <a href="https://twitter.com/Metropolis40/status/1270001415729995778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damian Rey 2.0 06-11-2020 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5350616)
And I like w/ OGNs they could tell the story, through one or four graphic novels and then boom, someone else could tell a totally different story without worrying about continuity. Just focused on good stories and nice art.

Exactly

slik 06-16-2020 09:20 PM

I read DEATH METAL #1 and actually really liked it.

It had quite the surprise ending - I did not expect this to happen in issue 1 of the series


SPOILER: show

Diana kills The Batman Who Laughs by cutting him in half with her chainsaw

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slik 06-18-2020 03:31 PM

I already love the tonal shift


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First ever sneak peek at JL. Get ready for more at DC FanDome. <a href="https://twitter.com/hbomax?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@hbomax</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/releasethesnydercut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#releasethesnydercut</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DCFanDome?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DCFanDome</a> <a href="https://t.co/WIWwFo4Xnt">pic.twitter.com/WIWwFo4Xnt</a></p>&mdash; Zack Snyder (@ZackSnyder) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1273646510542974981?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damian Rey 2.0 06-18-2020 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5352300)
I already love the tonal shift


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First ever sneak peek at JL. Get ready for more at DC FanDome. <a href="https://twitter.com/hbomax?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@hbomax</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/releasethesnydercut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#releasethesnydercut</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DCFanDome?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DCFanDome</a> <a href="https://t.co/WIWwFo4Xnt">pic.twitter.com/WIWwFo4Xnt</a></p>&mdash; Zack Snyder (@ZackSnyder) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1273646510542974981?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

As mediocre as Man of Steel was and as bad as BvS was, they were at least visually compelling and have lots of good bits and pieces that just don't add up story wise.

Justice League didn't have that. I did a re watch the other day and man it's just boring to look at. Snyder's cut will certainly be interesting if nothing else.

Lock Jaw 06-19-2020 12:36 AM

Excited for the return of Doom Patrol

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