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Dazz 05-17-2005 05:02 PM

Some guy at Rajah's made up an end of season awards thing, I care not to tally it up, just wondering what everyones opinions are, IE take out my answers and fill it our yourself so I can see your opinions.

Player of the Year:
John Terry

Manager of the Year:
David Moyes

Team of the Year:
Everton

Young Player of the Year:
Arjen Robben

Lower Division Player of the Year:


Best Transfer of the year:
Petr Cech

Flop Transfer of the Year:
Jari Jarosik

Flop Team of the Year:
Newcastle

Most Improved Player of the Year:
Joe Cole

Most Criminally Underrated Player of the Year:
Tim Cahill

Most Criminally Overrated Player of the Year:
Ruud Van Nistelrooy

Overseas Player of the Year:
Kaka

Overseas Team of the Year:
AC Milan

Overseas Manager of the Year:
Fabio Capello

Goal of the Season:
Rooney Vs Newcastle

Premiership XI of the season:
GK - Cech

RB - Ferreira
CB - Carragher
CB - Terry
LB - G Heinze

AML - Arjen Robben
DMC - Claude Makelele
MC - Franky Lampard
MC - Thomas Graveson
AMR - Damien Duff

ST - A Johnson

Cactus Sid 05-17-2005 05:19 PM

Player of the Year:
Jamie Carragher

Manager of the Year:
David Moyes

Team of the Year:
Everton

Young Player of the Year:
Francesc Fabregas

Lower Division Player of the Year:
Jimmy Bullard

Best Transfer of the year:
Tim Cahill

Flop Transfer of the Year:
Dennis Rommedahl

Flop Team of the Year:
Newcastle

Most Improved Player of the Year:
Joe Cole

Most Criminally Underrated Player of the Year:
Jamie Carragher (has had a come uppence in the last month after 2 years of being amazing)

Most Criminally Overrated Player of the Year:
Andy Johnson

Overseas Player of the Year:
Ronaldinho

Overseas Team of the Year:
Barcelona

Overseas Manager of the Year:
Frank Rijkaard

Goal of the Season:
Henry vs Charlton

Premiership XI of the season:
GK- Petr Cech
DL- Gabriel Heinze
DR- Paulo Ferreira
DC- John Terry
DC- Jamie Carragher
ML- Arjen Robben
MR- Shaun Wright-Phillips
MC- Tim Cahill
MC- Frank Lampard
FC- Thierry Henry
FC- Dean Ashton (Simply for the effort)

Ogen 05-17-2005 06:05 PM

Player of the Year:
Lampard

Manager of the Year:
Robson

Team of the Year:
Chelsea

Young Player of the Year:
Arjen Robben

Best Transfer of the year:
Petr Cech

Flop Transfer of the Year:
Carlton Cole even if it was just a loan he is fucking terrible

Flop Team of the Year:
Newcastle

Most Improved Player of the Year:
Carragher

Most Criminally Underrated Player of the Year:
Carsley

Overseas Player of the Year:
Ronaldinho

Overseas Team of the Year:
AC Milan

Overseas Manager of the Year:

Goal of the Season:
Edman

Premiership XI of the season:
GK - Cech

RB - Ferreira
CB - Carragher
CB - Terry
LB - G Heinze

AML - Arjen Robben
MC - Franky Lampard
MC - Thomas Graveson
AMR - Nobby Solano for being the only reason Villa didn't finish about 15th

ST - Henry
ST - A Johnson[/QUOTE]

Rob Ban Fan 05-17-2005 06:48 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Perrin has said he's not interested in going anywhere, and Houllier is going to Lens anyway.

We could've kept Berger and Stone if we wanted to, but Perrin obviously didn't think it worthwhile to offer them new contracts so thats up to him. Im a bit shocked about Stone but he's nearly 34 and only plays 25 games a season, Berger hasn't played well for 6 months though.

Faye, Quashie and Yakubu didn't want to be here so we sold them, we've got over £11m in the bank from the sale of them and they're not irreplacable. Yak has been lazy as hell since december anyway and 7 goals from open play this season isn't overly impressive. Lua Lua has only scored 2 less from open play despite playing out of position and playing less.

The transfer window isn't even open yet and then we have 3 months to buy players. Give us a chance, Christ.

And Dazz, you've just hated de Zeeuw since he "obstructed" your boyfriend Mutu by sheparding the ball out of play. If he is shit, slow and old, what does that say about your £16m cokehead boyfriend that was in his pocket for 90 minutes?</font>

Dazz 05-17-2005 06:51 PM

That he was on coke when he played against De Zeeuw, you have answered your own question, you skate.

toxic rooster 05-17-2005 10:45 PM

http://img266.echo.cx/img266/3116/stare7lx.jpg

Wengerland 05-18-2005 12:21 PM

Player of the Year:
John Terry

Manager of the Year:
David Moyes

Team of the Year:
Everton

Young Player of the Year:
Wayne Rooney

Lower Division Player of the Year:
Steve Sidwell

Best Transfer of the year:
Tim Cahill

Flop Transfer of the Year:
Didier Drogba

Flop Team of the Year:
Newcastle or Southampton

Most Improved Player of the Year:
Joe Cole

Most Criminally Underrated Player of the Year:
Emile Heskey

Most Criminally Overrated Player of the Year:
Yakubu

Overseas Player of the Year:
Xavi

Overseas Team of the Year:
Barcelona

Overseas Manager of the Year:
Guus Hiddink

Goal of the Season:
Rooney Vs Newcastle

Premiership XI of the season:
GK - Cech

RB - Hibbert
CB - Carragher
CB - Terry
LB - G Heinze

RM - Shaun Wright-Phillips
CM - Frank Lampard
CM - Tim Cahill
LM - Stewart Downing

ST - Andrew Johnson
ST - Thierry Henry

Rob 05-18-2005 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazz
He isn't shit, you need players like that, I am seriously putting £20 on you to go down, without Burger, Stone, Faye, Quashie and the Yak you lot are toast. Not to mention you have fannies like De Zeeuw in defence.

You're right. Quashie isn't shit. And funny how now Portsmouth fans thought he was when he played for them.

And I expect Pompey to be bottom five next season unless they bring it at least 8 players.

Rob 05-18-2005 03:04 PM

Player of the Year:
John Terry (Thomas Graveson would have pissed it for me if he stayed)

Manager of the Year:
David Moyes

Team of the Year:
Chelsea

Young Player of the Year:
Cristiano Ronaldo

Lower Division Player of the Year:
Darren Bent

Best Transfer of the year:
Tim Cahill

Flop Transfer of the Year:
Didier Drogba

Flop Team of the Year:
Dunno. Probably Man United

Most Improved Player of the Year:
Jamie Carragher (or Graveson if you count half years)

Most Criminally Underrated Player of the Year:
Tim Cahill

Most Criminally Overrated Player of the Year:
Frank Lampard (he's good but he ain't no world beater)

Overseas Player of the Year:
Gattuso or Essien (from what I saw of him in the Champions League, he is the nuts)

Overseas Team of the Year:
AC Milan or Lyon

Overseas Manager of the Year:
Guus Hiddink

Goal of the Season:
I wanna be say Rooney Vs. Newcastle but Edman vs. Liverpool beats it

Premiership XI of the season:
GK - Petr Cech

RB - Gary Neville (pains me to admit that one)
CB - Jamie Carragher
CB - John Terry
LB - Gabriele Heinze

RM - Cristiano Ronaldo
CM - Frank Lampard
CM - Tim Cahill
LM - Arjan Robben

ST - Wayne Rooney
ST - Thierry Henry

Cactus Sid 05-18-2005 03:11 PM

Jeez, I forgot Essien and Lyon, they have been immense this year

I'd have probably put Rooney in if I didn't have such an immense hate for him. Really he should be in for Ashton, without Rooney, United would've done abysmally this season.

Mr. Monday Morning 05-18-2005 03:26 PM

What the fuck do (some) of you people see in Hibbert. He is absolutely atrocious.

Speaking of which, watching the playoff semi, haven't seen much Championship this year but my God Harewood is absolutely useless.

Rob Ban Fan 05-18-2005 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
You're right. Quashie isn't shit. And funny how now Portsmouth fans thought he was when he played for them.

And I expect Pompey to be bottom five next season unless they bring it at least 8 players.

<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">erm, not being funny but Quashie was one of our worst players last season, hated by half of Pompey fans because of his poor passing and most wanted him to be sold last summer.

Granted this season he improved and was good for us but he was still the main target of the boo boys. I always defended him because he always gave 100% but he was never a crowd favourite here.

Calling him shit is harsh maybe (although i must reiterate a lot of Pompey fans did do this, even while he played for us) but fuck off is he worth £35,000 a week. </font>

Rob 05-18-2005 03:54 PM

What player is worth £35,000 a week?

Rob Ban Fan 05-18-2005 04:09 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">well thats a whole other argument ;)

but relative to what footballers are paid, is he fuck worth £35,000 a week.</font>

Wengerland 05-18-2005 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
What the fuck do (some) of you people see in Hibbert. He is absolutely atrocious.

Speaking of which, watching the playoff semi, haven't seen much Championship this year but my God Harewood is absolutely useless.

Hibbert's been solid and consistent for pretty much the whole season, i haven't seen him play loads of times or anything but i really doubt he's that bad.

Harewood got both assists tonight, pretty good ones at that, but you posted before they'd happened :o He was poor in both games against City though, quite an inconsistent player.

Danny Electric 05-18-2005 09:14 PM

Topic for discussion.

Who thinks that in the Championship and lower leagues that the play-offs should be scrapped and the third place team should just get automatic promotion. I know it adds to the excitement but for example with this season Ipswich have been a better side than other teams in the play-offs so it's harsh on them on and their fans.

What do you lot think?

Mike the Metal Ed 05-18-2005 09:26 PM

No.

Cactus Sid 05-19-2005 06:27 AM

No

I think that the Playoff system is a good thing similar to the European places in the Premiership. Some teams are never going to get the chance to play in the Premiership, but if they can get 6th place, they have a chance, it gives everyone something to play for during the season. If it was the top 3, you'd have about 4 or 5 teams a season who have a chance, with the playoffs you have 10 or 11

Wengerland 05-19-2005 07:07 AM

Nah, the play-offs are class. The top 3 in the championship were clear by about January, it would have been boring. The play-offs give reason for optimism to pretty much every club in the league as it's such an open division.

Mr. Monday Morning 05-19-2005 08:34 AM

Yeah, shut up Electric :rant:

Rob Ban Fan 05-19-2005 09:28 AM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">im with Adam Kirk on this one, DOWN WITH DANNY ELECTRIC.</font>

Danny Electric 05-19-2005 10:53 AM

I didn't say whether I was for or against it. As I said it brings excitment but it's harsh for the team who finishes third.

Down On Rob Ban Fan :shifty:

packt up 05-19-2005 11:24 AM

Player of the Year:
John Terry

Manager of the Year:
David Moyes

Team of the Year:
Chelsea

Young Player of the Year:
Cesc Fabregas

Lower Division Player of the Year:
Idiakez

Best Transfer of the year:
Peter Cech

Flop Transfer of the Year:
Didier Drogba

Flop Team of the Year:
Newcastle WOOOOOOOOOOOO

Most Improved Player of the Year:
Robin Van Persie over the course of the Year

Most Criminally Underrated Player of the Year:
Lee Carsley

Most Criminally Overrated Player of the Year:
Tiago

Overseas Player of the Year:
Adriano

Overseas Team of the Year:
Lyon

Overseas Manager of the Year:
Paul le Guen

Goal of the Season:
Rooney vs Newcastle

Premiership XI of the season:
GK - Petr Cech

RB - Gary Neville
CB - Jamie Carragher
CB - John Terry
LB - William Gallas (even though he hates playing there)

RM - Damien Duff
CM - Frank Lampard
CM - Claude Makelele
LM - Arjan Robben

ST - Wayne Rooney
ST - Thierry Henry

El Capitano Gatisto 05-19-2005 07:21 PM

Player of the Year: John Terry


Manager of the Year: David Moyes


Team of the Year: Chelsea


Young Player of the Year: Cesc Fabregas


Lower Division Player of the Year: ----------


Best Transfer of the year: Xabi Alonso


Flop Transfer of the Year: Mateja Kezman


Flop Team of the Year: Newcastle


Most Improved Player of the Year: Dickie Dunne/Igor Biscan


Most Criminally Underrated Player of the Year: Dickie Dunne


Most Criminally Overrated Player of the Year: Frank Lampard


Overseas Player of the Year: Samuel Etoo


Overseas Team of the Year: Lyon


Overseas Manager of the Year: Paul Le Guen


Goal of the Season: Rooney vs. Newcastle


Upset of the Season: Man City beating Chelsea


Premiership XI of the season:

[centre] Cech

Gallas - Carragher - Terry - Heinze

Makalele

Duff - Keane - Lampard - Robben

Henry[/centre]

In this year's prefered 4-5-1



Posted that ages ago at Rajah's. Swapped Carragher for Ferdinand in my team and Rooney's goal in Goal of the Season from the original pick of Solano vs. Spurs.

LK 05-20-2005 02:27 PM

Player of the Year:
Frank Lampard

Manager of the Year:
Davie Moyes

Team of the Year:
Everton

Young Player of the Year:
Wright-Phillips

Lower Division Player of the Year:


Best Transfer of the year:
Heinze

Flop Transfer of the Year:
Kezman

Flop Team of the Year:
Newcastle

Most Improved Player of the Year:
Crouch

Most Criminally Underrated Player of the Year:
Dunne

Most Criminally Overrated Player of the Year:
Kluivert

Overseas Player of the Year:
Ronaldhino

Overseas Team of the Year:
Barcelona

Overseas Manager of the Year:
Rijkaard

Goal of the Season:
Rooney vs Newcastle

Premiership XI of the season:
GK: Cech

DL: Heinze
DC: Rio
DC: Terry
DR: G Neville

ML: Robben
MC: Lampard
MC: Keane
MR: Wright-Phillips

SC: Henry
SC: Rooney

LK 05-20-2005 02:29 PM

Sorry RBF but I can see your team really struggling next year.

As for Quashie I have always thought that he was the kind of player that people would like in their team. A guy willing to fight for the team plus he has a pretty mean shot on him.

Mr. Monday Morning 05-20-2005 04:35 PM

Aaron Hughes has signed for Villa

Spurs have agreed to sell Simon Davies to Everton for £4m, apparently Arteta is going to set them back about £2.8m on top of that. Bit surprised about Davies, on his day he can be great, only thing is he's highly injury prone.

Apparently West Brom have offered £2m PLUS Earnshaw for Andy Johnson. lol, Rob Earnshaw, Welsh goalscoring hero.

Danny Electric 05-20-2005 09:37 PM

I wonder what the goal ratio thing is this season for goals from open play between Earnshaw and Johnson. Wouldn't suprise me if Earnshaw has more goals from open play.

Danny Electric 05-20-2005 09:40 PM

Well Earnshaw had 12 goals from 18 games in the Prem and Johnson had 21 goals from 37 games according to www.skysports.com

toxic rooster 05-20-2005 10:31 PM

That would include penalties though?

packt up 05-21-2005 06:22 AM

I bet goals in open play and goals per minute on the pitch will favour Earnshaw.

Aaron Hughes hmmmm thought he was worth more than 1million but then I wasn't his biggest fan so meh.

Oh and COME ON ARSENAL. Apparently they've left Sol on the bench.

Rob 05-21-2005 06:52 AM

Andy Johnson just lost to Lampard for my most overrated player. The guy is nothing. He'll get well sussed if he is in the Premiership again next season. WBA should stick with Earnshaw.

Danny Electric 05-21-2005 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wee Gooner
That would include penalties though?

Yeah that was including penalties.
Earnshaw missed his, first game for them. I think it was.

El Capitano Gatisto 05-21-2005 08:40 AM

Rob Earnshaw is average. Andy Johnson is a very good player. I'd take Johnson over him any day of the week, but he'll end up at a better side than WBA.

Wengerland 05-21-2005 09:04 AM

Yeah, i'd rather have Johnson really, 10 goals in open play in a struggling side as a lone striker is hardly bad, and penalties need to be converted.

Fair play to Earnshaw, he seems to have improved since the move, mainly because his finishing at first was terrible, but i'd still have AJ.

El Capitano Gatisto 05-21-2005 09:10 AM

Johnson won a lot of those penalties by making mugs out of defenders too.

yianni 05-21-2005 01:30 PM

Arsenal were fucking disgraceful tonight...I hate both teams but honestly Man U were robbed. Sometimes there is no justice in football. Boring, pathetic shit from Arsenal the whole game and snatched it on the shootout.

jerichoholic169 05-21-2005 01:34 PM

Yet again United were the better side against Arsenal. No doubting United should have won as Arsenal just didn't come to the races today and seemed almost to play for penalties. But i can't complain as United were outplayed by Munich and won it at the death so all's fair. Just hope both United and Arsenal take a good hard luck at themselves and work out where the goals are going to come from with RVN and henry not in form or not playing.

Rob Ban Fan 05-21-2005 02:19 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">ahahaha apparently Gin Smith has been sacked by Lowe as part of his cost cutting measures.

Now I can't wait to see Redknapp going on Sky Sports News, calling Lowe an idiot and a liar, slagging him off and threatening to leave like he did when Milan allegedly wanted to sack Smith.

Then I just need Clive Woodward to be brought in as Director of Football and it will make my day.</font>

soconnor 05-21-2005 02:47 PM

I enjoyed watching Dr Who even more knowing Christopher Eccleston would be devasted. I'm not Arsenals biggest fan but against Man United I am very pleased. If you can't score a goal then you don't win, whoever deserves it doesn't matter. The tears on the lads faces, priceless. I know Wednesday I might be gutted to, but least that's a major cup final against the best. I'm happy and positive. Bring it on.


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