Chris Jericho does it to make himself feel important.

huh


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Unable to see that post.

I wasn’t aware people cared about the result of Moxley vs. MJF.

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Meltzer is at it again. He’s reporting that many in the WWE don’t want CM Punk back because “they know what happened in AEW.” Hmm. Odd. Because we still haven’t had an actual thing pointed out to us as to why CM Punk had heat backstage. Dave even got choked up talking about it and basically stooged off off there was nothing Punk did.

When’s Jeff Jarrett taking over this company?

Because he is a bitter Prick. That is not some big industry secret.

Dynamite in Bridgeport tonight. As of today they had sold just under 3,000 tickets. Their first show there in February sold just under 6,000.

Doubtful that there will be much movement in terms of day-of ticket sales. Not with that card they've announced.

Tons of open seats in the middle camera side section, because they cost like $90 and after Ticketmaster fees it's probably like $150. That's just not justifiable for this card. Glad I'm staying home.

Oh and also traffic was an absolute nightmare going into the arena last time they were here. I got caught in it but managed to still get into the lot and in my seat a few minutes before Dark at 7 PM. Tons of people couldn't get into the arena until well after Dynamite has already started.

Definitely the kind of thing that would make people swear off ever wanting to go again. Add in that the product is clearly not hot now and yeah. Not a great look.

i have absolutely no desire to watch tonight. my buddy is canceling his sling account (i use his login to watch pretty much AEW only), and i don't think i really even care to find another way to watch it. youtube clips will probably do for the time being. they just aren't doing anything that i really care enough about to start paying more for it through some service i don't already have.

AEW is great, guys. Don’t give up hope.

Yeah, the matches tonight are a big nothing. AEW are advertising four separate promos tonight (Mox, MJF, Samoa Joe, and Saraya/Britt). Which I mean, yeah, on a go-home show it isn't surprising. But for that same reason it's tough to imagine anything transpiring that I couldn't very easily find on YouTube, AEW's social media page isn't exactly afraid to post full segments when it suits them

Ditto for the Elite's return I assume is happening either tonight or Saturday. AEW will obviously post it, there's not much need for me to sit in front of my TV to catch it in realtime.

the only downside is not watching it live with y'all but being back in the office on wednesdays means i won't always be home in time anyway. oh well.

I've ordered every AEW PPV and have had no regrets. They've all delivered IMO, and considering I share the account and split the costs it's been even more of a no-brainer to keep it going.

I'm still getting Full Gear as I feel like the show itself will be good. I can see some belters on here, and see it being a card that overdelivers on expectations the fans now have after a lousy build.

But the fact it has a lousy build at all is a big problem. If I weren't splitting costs this would likely be the first AEW PPV I'd completely skip. Even though I think the show could overdeliver, that wouldn't be enough for me to fork over $50. And I assume there's a bunch of people in that boat who are skipping accordingly. Wouldn't be a surprise if they draw their lowest buy rate of the year.

yeah i usually get together with friends and we all split the cost so it's pretty cheap, but no one can get together this weekend and i'm pretty sure i'm not dropping like $60 on this card.

and at this point in the game any member of the elite coming back doesn't move the needle for me. i only want kenny back for more callis. the bucks can take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.

Hey! You'd know. You post about AEW more than anyone here :yes:

I will watch tonight and this weekend and next week and forever and ever. Amen.

amen, brotha

No matter how many people do or do not buy tickets or do or do not order the PPVs, Tiny will still say it was the best most successful show ever, and also that Warner Discovery love him, and that he is not just a weirdo with a rich daddy.

Tiny envy. it's real and you have it :yes:

I do wish I had a Billionaire to leech off of, that is very real lol

More info on the game dropping on Saturday.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhxrhbiW...jpg&name=large

This looks fucking fun.

queer wrestling moments

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oh it's all queer bud

That video should just be a link to subscribe to Peacock.

Someone came to me with this crazy theory. They think Chris Jericho is trying to sabotage MJF. Yeah *as if* the GOAT has a shred of insecurity. They said Bryan Alvarez stooged it off this week. They said Bryan talks to Jericho and when Bryan said “MJF might turn face for a while” that he tipped the plan is for MJF to turn, it not work, then turn back.

But why would AEW do that to MJF? Do you think guys like Jericho want to work any less hard when they’re getting paid millions and have worked hard for 30+ years? HIGHLY UNLIKELY!

Why are there mushrooms growing from the mat??? :rofl:

Wont's somebody please think of the children? Smh @ that video game :nono:

My favorite part is that it's Britt pinning Rosa.

There's a billion things you can do with an MJF title run and time shouldn't be a concern because I suspect he's going to hold the title for at least a year. Even if he's booked as a face at the beginning of his run, I fully expect that by this time next year MJF will be back to being the biggest heel in the company and continually threatening to walk out the door with the title.

He's flatly denied the rumors that he's secretly signed an extension. I mean, in sports there are deals reported as extensions but really it's just the team ripping up an old contract and replacing it with a brand new, more lucrative long-term deal. Maybe this is actually what happened, maybe it isn't. It's not like MJF is going to say anything either way, and the company won't either since there's meat on the bone to make an angle of the "bidding war of 2024".

A couple months ago, MJF getting a run and then dropping it to Wardlow to build up your homegrown superhero mega face seemed like the obvious way to go.

I haven’t been watching but I know Wardlow has cooled off. I don’t know how you handle that situation now. You’ve got a homegrown heel you can build the company around and a homegrown face you can build a company around but both feel like they need the title ASAP for different reasons.

It’s a good thing no children care about this game.

Trios match is gonna rock at the PPV, super excited to have Kenny and the Bucks back.

Im super intrigued by the TNT title match, theres no outcome that would surprise me I dont think but Wardlow retaining would make sense... Hobbs as champion is probably the right call in my mind. So long as Joe doesnt win I'm into it really.

The MJF winning outcome seems very pre determined. Are we sure Regal isnt turning? All this devil doesnt exist stuff with Regal knee deep in it all and Mox probably going on sabbatical after. Feels like theres something there to me with the gentleman villan and as much as MJF doesnt need someone to do his speaking I wouldnt hate it.

MJF vs. Darby for the title will be an absolute banger of a match/series and if Regal does turn Sting and Regal shenanigans will be gold as well. I really hope that move from MJF to someone else isnt hugely telegraphed but if he gets the big run everyone expects I guess it will be. I want an unexpected champion so bad. Penta preferably.

Bowens' arm is in a sling now.

I guess if he's not cleared they could always Freebird it and have Daddy Ass in there.

Trying to watch this as “background TV” while I read and I have only looked up three times.

Once for an awful, incredibly long rap song that sucked big ass.
Once because I heard a Geordie accent and I needed to know why.
Lastly because a guy came to the ring and called the audience “basic bitches” or something similar.

Terrible.

Funny ass imagery in this old post

We still laugh about that one

Somebody got carpal tunnel that day

Was fun taping those shows... miss that... the fed closed down/merged with a bigger fed... Was fun taping the matches and taping all the "backstage shenanigans" and promos... can only imagine how much better we would do at it now....

Did anyone catch the latest Brian Last clue re: Kenny Omega’s backstage issues?

Was there any more info other than the 1 minute trailer? Cause if not, thats kinda lame.

Cool that thumbtacks actually stick to people though.

To be fair, I don’t think this is the actual teased reveal. More info is coming later today.

To also be fair, the game looks fucking gross and development has been a nightmare. It’s going to suck.

I’m pumped for Gull Fear! I wonder if there are going to be any surprises? Bow Wow to confront Jade?

People are not going to like this take, but…

The Acclaimed don’t seem to be very good. They’re over in front of that crowd and there is potential there. They’re “blue chippers,” but the act is pretty lame and them being so over is an indictment of where everything else is. Billy Gunn being so over is further evidence of that.

The same goes with MJF being a babyface.

This reminds me of when people would crow about R-Truth being one of the best things about WWE — there’s a bit of a problem there.

AEW keeps signing wrestlers. Konosuke Takeshita is All Elite. It’s a pretty good gig for a guy from Japan to get. He works a couple of times a month — once in front of people — gets paid a truck of money.

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LMFAO the Khan's cant even afford to keep their stadium UNDER 129 violations!

Guess Shad let Tiny waste too much money on failed MMA fighters and FEDBADers to keep their diehards from utter SHAMBLES :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

If it was 129 rodents, I’d say it sounds like the AEW locker room.

No more info csme today.

I thought I read it was supposed to come “during Full Gear.” I don’t know. I’m happy to call them all dirty liars and remind people the game is going to be a disaster.

I'm rooting for it not to be. Good wrestling games are very few and far between these days.

I’m just trying to mentally prepare people.

the lord's work being done by noid

Where is the lie?

Technically it is just speculation until the game actually comes out.

If the game is great, I’ll be very happy for people. But I think the people expecting WWF No Mercy are going to be sorely disappointed.

Given the sheer amount of games that have referenced no mercy during development and turned out to be dogshit, I don't think anyone is fully comitted to the idea that its going to be great.

But videos we've seen of the gameplay, and how it looks in motion, has got people hoping that they've managed to pull it off. Nothing is certain until we get it in our hands ourselves though.

The team working on this worked on DoR2. Im not worried.

Aew =/= yukes. WCW Revenge was outstanding. The next year the same team released WM 2000. company logos dont matter.

Is it though? Yukes is a big company and we're talking 20 years ago. I doubt a lot of the people that worked on DOR 2 are still even there.

DOR 2 is tits though, for sure.

The director is Iwashita (Revenge/No Mercy) the lead designer is Katsumata (DoR2)

Oh, well shit. That is promising.

"Team" is certainly not every person but the key figures have made some of the best wrestling games ever made not named Fire Pro or Wrestle Kingdom

Hopefully those guys werent just interns or something when those games were made.

I wish it had another year in the can to get a full 4 year dev cycle though. Its a new engine after all. That said if theyre running off the blueprints of those two games (mechanically they're basically the same game at their core) then you dont need the full time in theory. You already know what works you just have to develop it.

No its the same roles they were in at the time. Its no mercy director. Its dor2s lead designer.

Wrestle Kingdom 2 is so good. Wish it would of come over here. I only played it for a little while on my modded ps2 when it bit the dust.

STOP TRYING TO MAKE ME HOPEFUL

My heart can't take another Pro Wrestling X.

Fight Forever could easily be the best wrestling game since the gamecube.

Basically if they fuck this up it will be an embarrassment beyond reason. They have the talent.

But it being brought to market in only 3 years is worrying

I expect it will be rough around the edges. But so was world tour and look how good revenge was... if this is a good 1st draft maybe FF2 nails it. Most fighting games hit their stride mechanically in their sequels nearly universally.

Point is there's a lot to jazzed about. Yukes finally has a wrestling license again. Skys the limit.

I don't know, Noid told me it's gonna suck.

Should be noted though theyre literally using an updated version of the aki engine so even saying "its a new engine" is going too far

its sales sucking is far more likely than the game sucking

If the rumors of what they spent on it are true, its going to be a loss.

WWE games are niche. This is much more so.

Making games aint cheap thats for damn sure. There's a reason they stopped making movie tie in games and middle-ware in general. All the lower A tier companies are looking to sell. The risk is crazy high. If AEW made a mistake it was developing a video game to begin with. Its a rough market with extreme risk.

They’re also severely over budget even for a game.

You make fine points Destor, but it’s not 2000 anymore. Yukes are developing a game that has to fit old systems. They’re also doing it to the direction of a fan and someone who has no prior experience with game development.

The roster is going to be extremely limited and out of date. That feeling of “Wow! I get to play as (insert person here)” is not going to be there. Almost everyone is going to have a favorite that doesn’t make the cut. Their move sets are also going to likely be limited compared to how they actually wrestle.

The Yukes games in the 90’s and 00’s pushed wrestling games forward. These ones are chasing that time. It’s a big artistic difference.

The roster of every wrestling game is out of date. They cut off roster additions months before release. Thats just how they're made.

I don't know why you think movesets will be limited. Do you know something we don't?

Every modern game has an out of date roster. Fight Forever has about 50 wrestlers — many of whom were in the company from basically day dot.

Didn’t they come out and confirm that wrestlers will have a strong grab and a weak grab and basically 4 moves that come from that? Who wrestles like that in AEW?

You don't play a lot of wrestling games do you? Most games have a weak/strong grab system, including the ones fight forever is influenced by. Weak grapples are early match moves like headlocks and arm drags and strong grapples give you your powerbombs and superkicks.

the retro market is huge right now. Making 90s throwback games is very common and very in vogue

nerf thinks he is shitting on aew, but is just bringing up problems with all wrestling games.

Noid getting clowned by people who actually know about video games is just the sweetener I needed for my coffee this morning.

This has turned into another classic AEW argument. The game being good is not even the issue. It's another thing like the TV rights deal, where people who are Pro AEW are greatly overestimating how profitable the game will be. AEW's entire existence has been "oh they are about to be making SOOOOOO much money, LFG!!!" and any other outcome is just stupid people who do not understand anything.

No Mercy sold over 1 million copies at a time 10 million people were watching wrestling weekly. Yes there had to be some crossover of people who bought that didnt watch wrestling, but in the overall scenario probably not a statistical significance.

What is honestly a good projection for sales? I am fairly confident it wont be this giant windfall of profits AEW likes to pretend it will be, but really what is the likely number willing to buy the game?

Lol, I’m not saying that other games haven’t used it. I’m saying that it isn’t going to be reflective of how people wrestle in AEW. I’m pretty sure they’ve come out and said that each wrestler is going to have something like 8 moves from their basic grapples. Who even grapples in AEW?

Those are two different things. You can make a game that envokes nostalgia or you can make a game that is 25 years out of date.

Is this aimed at me? I don’t know who nerf is. Something being as horrible as something else doesn’t make it not horrible.

Lol if only you knew. The only sweetener you require are panties to sniff, you insecure perv.

The game is going to suck dude. I’m sure a few people will lie and try and pretend they’re having fun with it, but people who have been paying attention will have noticed a lot of red flags.

To be fair, most people are distancing themselves from the idea of this game being profitable. It’s just a nice thing the company is doing because they care. The new line is that fans just want the game is fun to play. There is some “at least it’s not 2k!” It’s the last rung to grab on the way down and people will hold onto it for as long as they can.

Projection for sales is 3.

There’s more AEW backstage drama:

Jungle Boy did the predictable thing and tried to mock CM Punk at the media scrum (you knew some unimaginative fuck would try and do it on behalf of The Elite). Colten Gunn then commented on a photo of JB saying the kid wants to be a Gunn so bad. JB then said he’d rather be booked for the PPV. Gunn said that if he changed with The Bucks and stayed up to 6am partying with the boss he might.

That damn CM Punk still causing problems. At least this one implying Tony Khan has a problem is probably just a work to make the company look bad.

The thing that gets me is that AEW apologists (who have immediately gone after The Gunns of course) are claiming nepotism being the only reason they got there. Lots of “they’re only there because they’re Billy kids.” Um…Jack Perry? Never mind that The Gunns have earned their stripes and being the son of Billy Gunn isn’t exactly going to be the red carpet AEW marks are making it out to be. It might get you a look, but assumptions might be that you are automatically horrible lol.

Only nobody here is talking about the game being profitable in the way you’re describing. Barely talking about sales full stop.

I just want a good, fun wrestling game and I'm pretty sure most of the people here interested in the game are the same way.

The company's bottom line on the project means little to me. The game's profitability only matters to me in the sense that if I like the game, I'd want it to do well so it can receive a sequel or at least continued support.

That’s quietened down, but it was definitely around. People want the sun to shine out of this company’s ass.

I get the want, but then there’s denial.