Lol Guy’s a company man. WWE REALLY needs him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fox Sports boss Eric Shanks and Fox broadcasting chief Charlie Collier both declined an opportunity to share internal <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TVratings?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TVratings</a> expectations for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a> on Fox. Not that that should surprise anyone.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/foxupfront?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#foxupfront</a></p>&mdash; Tony Maglio (@TonyMaglio) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyMaglio/status/1127921484591190016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Not that I blame Cena as a movie career was a no brainer. But man, The Rock/Cena feud has aged so terribly given that Cena is now doing the exact same thing.

Part 2 of their feud was extra terrible due to how lazy WWE handled it and killed any real benefit or payoff from Punk's modern era record setting WWE title reign in the process.

They could have had the match exactly the same by having Cena interfere in the match instead of the Shield, after losing the Rumble.

Watching Mid Atlantic from 82.

Jake Roberts was super skinny and using a running knee lift as a finish...
I wonder when the DDT comes in.

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According to PWI, Killer Kross recently asked for his release from Impact Wrestling.

Seems the whole situation revolves around Kross regretting signing a multi-year deal with Impact last year.

Kross feels he's currently being underpaid compared to his value outside of Impact and has also been upset with the direction of his career in the company.

Impact initially stood their ground against a pay raise but then offered one that was at a lower amount than Kross was asking and with none of the guarantees he also asked for (base pay and work dates).

Watching Bret/Tom Magee doc on Network r/n

Tom Magee being interviewed r/n

Bret Hart vs Tom Magee was a fun match.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Magee would then show up in the 1991 Brian Bosworth film Stone Cold, and now we know where Kenny Omega got his style from. <a href="https://t.co/NPnY7XNJfF">pic.twitter.com/NPnY7XNJfF</a></p>&mdash; APHOR☥SM (@VivaLaAforismo) <a href="https://twitter.com/VivaLaAforismo/status/1126951103751438336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Apparently Viceland was working on a Dino Bravo episode for their Dark Side of the Ring series before it got dropped when they cut back plans for the series to have 6 episode instead of 10.

For some reference, Bravo allegedly had a side job as a cigarette smuggler in Canada and got on the bad side of the mob who allegedly ordered a hit on him as punishment.

But what if you add Kurt Angle to the mix?

Meh, he goes home with Scarlett Bordeaux so he's still doing quite well for himself regardless.

Good little documentary/match combo... I don't believe a man with that athleticism and size spent 3-4 years wrestling dark matches because he wasn't good enough. I don't think they wanted him in as a mid card wrestler, only as a main event hero so maybe he was held back by Hogan and kept in reserve by Vince for a time that never came.

I'd have liked a straight comment from Vince but I bet it was less about lack of talent and more about Hogan't creative control, drawing power and the lack of necessity in replacing him with anyone at that time.

Hogan was still drawing fair crowds up til 1991 or so wasn't he?

Dude was goofy and awkward in the ring, two things you don't want in a top guy.

That said, if he came out today, he'd be sucked off by the IWC as the greatest thing ever.

I mean unless Tom Magee's other matches were complete and utter dog shit there's no reason he wouldn't fit into their plans at all.

No... I think this is like buying a replacement goalkeeper only for your original goalie to play until he's 40 and so the new guy becomes a dejected squad guy who can't even depose the substitute goalie.

Eventually he just leaves the game altogether.

You could be talking about Hogan here

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Should change his name to Big Knee

Billy Graham won't be happy until nobody has any legs at all the bitter old bastard.

Saw Adam Bomb commented on Billy Graham's FB page...now looking at FB profile of Adam Bomb


https://www.facebook.com/bryan.clark.399

I thought he was dead.

Probably thinking of Bryan Adams his partner in Kronik/Crush.

Lol anyone watch the Tom Magee vs Bret Hart match

Yeah it was fun/good

Tom Magee had a huge wedgie the whole match

I was going to post this and decided to wait because I figured it would be a popular response.

Weird that Ricochet has already lost clean twice on the main roster, to Robert Roode and Baron Corbin.

Wonder when Aleister will wrestle again...feel like he had lots of momentum and him cutting heelish video promos on SD each week isn't helping him...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� ON THIS DAY �� <br><br>14 May 1995 - The first ever WWF In Your House takes place featuring a banger between <a href="https://twitter.com/BretHart?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BretHart</a> and Hakushi.<br><br>What a pairing!<br><br>Bret would pull double duty that night, also facing Jerry Lawler. <a href="https://t.co/cHCT63OfcV">pic.twitter.com/cHCT63OfcV</a></p>&mdash; WrestlingShouldBeFun (@wrestlingshoul2) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlingshoul2/status/1128284444467564545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fox is bringing our the big flames for WWE Smackdown Live (John Cena and Ronda Rousey are here too) <a href="https://t.co/n0IfFcglg5">pic.twitter.com/n0IfFcglg5</a></p>&mdash; Jason Lynch (@jasonlynch) <a href="https://twitter.com/jasonlynch/status/1128043926919815175?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The power of the <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFL</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FOXTV</a> now set to power promotion of <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> -- <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnCena?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JohnCena</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/RondaRousey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RondaRousey</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/StephMcMahon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StephMcMahon</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/TripleH?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TripleH</a> all on stage at Fox <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Upfronts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Upfronts</a> - it all starts October 4th <br>cc: <a href="https://twitter.com/brandonBTIG?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@brandonBTIG</a> <a href="https://t.co/5pGQBNDAii">pic.twitter.com/5pGQBNDAii</a></p>&mdash; Rich Greenfield (@RichBTIG) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichBTIG/status/1128279991450578945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cover Story: How <a href="https://twitter.com/VinceMcMahon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VinceMcMahon</a>‘s <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> seized on TV disruption to become a Wall Street champ <a href="https://twitter.com/Variety?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Variety</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeOtterson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoeOtterson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Variety_Cynthia?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Variety_Cynthia</a> <a href="https://t.co/6RKekQoV7b">https://t.co/6RKekQoV7b</a> <a href="https://t.co/QOmmOvXav1">pic.twitter.com/QOmmOvXav1</a></p>&mdash; WWE Public Relations (@WWEPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEPR/status/1128295545469063171?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I feel like WWE's popularity is actually slipping tbh, as many have mentioned here.


I know wrestling is a niche market to begin with, but with sliding ratings and social media (WWE hasn't trended worldwide on Twitter since WM itself -- which is why you haven't heard them brag about trending -- YT views each week are down a little too, less merch sales, less subscriptions to the Network, less live attendance, etc.

Part of me thinks years of WWE having so much content and going against what their most vocal and passionate fans want has finally caught up with them. Granted, RAW in particular has been bad for like a year at this point and really nosedived the last few months.


IDK, I think what I am trying to say is I think ratings will keep dropping. I also think people will tune into the Network for PPVs though. I think the weekly tv shows are going to have some trouble though as they are bad and most of the time, not really a reason to watch.

I wish I had anything to add to your conclusion, Slik. This is genuinely the worst they've been in a long time.

I could see SD launching well, 3-4 million and staying that way for a few months. But then it might be a novelty thing, rather than something that attracts new viewers to WWE. Friday is a bad night for tv to begin with and WWE is NOT new-user friendly.

There's just so much of it, and to see payoff (if there is such a thing in a feud at all) you have to spend $10 more dollars a month and I can't see the general public really going for that or WWE's lame storylines like people having back hair or being short or hating the WWE universe.

I sincerely hope this isn't how it all ends.

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I don't think we have to worry about that.

RAW and SD could easily drop to 1.0 and 1.5 rating and there's enough of a fanbase WM could sell out stadiums for the new few years. I think at some point though, if things go down a slippery slope, and it would be a ways away, Vince would either just sell WWE or they'd end up cutting back on content. I know WWE's current plan is to actually produce more content each year, but I think that will just further eradicate people via being 'too much of the same thing and most of it not being that great'.

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