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Evil Vito 05-06-2019 07:38 PM

NXT Takeover is gonna be in Bridgeport! WTF holy shit

Gerard 05-06-2019 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5250054)
*Pulls pin, throws grenade*

The guy didn't say he was a hero for dying during 9/11.

Maybe he saved him from choking in a restaurant one time? Maybe he saved lots of cats from trees.

We will never know.

Well thats the jist of it when 9/11 was mentioned.

Bad News Gertner 05-07-2019 07:11 AM

It really sucks when wrestling YouTube channels get shut down by the WWE. R.I.P John Smith and Pieces of Wrestling History

Juan 05-07-2019 07:44 AM

Why do people complain about the roster split and then also complain when SD guys show up on Raw and Raw guys show up on SD?

Sepholio 05-07-2019 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 5250216)
Why do people complain about the roster split and then also complain when SD guys show up on Raw and Raw guys show up on SD?

This question also crossed my mind.

I get that it's a continuity or credibility issue for some. Why have a shake up if it doesn't matter? Why pretend the rosters are separate if they aren't treated as such? I get it.

But it does seem like complaining for the sake of complaining. Having people show up wherever opens the door for more storylines and makes it way easier to keep things fresh. I don't see a legit downside from the viewer perspective.

Big Vic 05-07-2019 08:28 AM

Was Romans unfinished business on Raw Drew? He seemed quite complacent to just show up and get that match, nothing else.

Did he go after Shane or did Shane go after him? I thought his business was Shane.

XL 05-07-2019 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 5250216)
Why do people complain about the roster split and then also complain when SD guys show up on Raw and Raw guys show up on SD?

It’s more of an issue that absolutely nothing matters.

Like, you might not like having a brand split but if they’re going to have one they should enforce it fully. At this point they’re a tiny bit pregnant.

They’ve just spent 3 weeks deciding where everybody is going, with some people going backwards and forwards because they seemingly can’t plan more than a week ahead.

And now, none of the last 3 weeks really matter because you can just pick up a wildcard and appear on the other brand anyway.

They did an awful job explaining the limitations and restrictions on how the wildcard works with Vince saying one thing and the commentators saying another - probably because they haven’t quite worked out how it’s going to last. And they disregarded their own rules on Night 1.

Will they still build up Survivor Series as “the only night of the year where competitors from Raw and SmackDown face off against each other”? I wouldn’t be surprised.

Jordan 05-07-2019 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5250052)
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John Tenta and Ricky Steamboat, wow.

Seanny One Ball 05-07-2019 10:34 AM

Hahahahahaha

#1-norm-fan 05-07-2019 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 5250216)
Why do people complain about the roster split and then also complain when SD guys show up on Raw and Raw guys show up on SD?

I don’t so much have a problem with the roster split as I do with the multiple world champions thing which is just fucking stupid.

But if you’re gonna do a roster split, commit to it. It’s WWE being scatterbrained.

#1-norm-fan 05-07-2019 10:57 AM

Basically, there’s no contradiction in saying “I don’t like that thing they’re doing and also, the execution of the thing is terrible.”

slik 05-07-2019 11:24 AM

Fightful reporting Jen Pepperman, one of the WWE directors, has heat backstage via bringing her Daytime Emmy she won for directing a soap opera to RAW with her the next day.


It is noted WWE has never won an Emmy directly so this was viewed as an attack on WWE by some in WWE management but was really an employee celebrating a win in her field. Pepperman is said to be well-liked by many wrestlers.

GD 05-07-2019 11:27 AM

I did not watch a minute of RAW this week. I read the results and some dirtsheets. Genuinely turned off by the aftermath of the Superstar shakeup and it meaning jackshit. Also the amount of toxicity in this company is one of the primary reasons for me to do so. I’ll attempt to keep up with Smackdown and NXT for now.

Sepholio 05-07-2019 12:11 PM

To be fair Dave if you are going to watch SD and NXT then the toxicity of the company has nothing to do with your decision. If it was about the toxicity you wouldn't watch any of their programming.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-07-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250262)
Also the amount of toxicity in this company is one of the primary reasons for me to do so. I’ll attempt to keep up with Smackdown and NXT for now.

How, as a long-time wrestling fan, is the toxicity only effecting you now?

Jordan 05-07-2019 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5250275)
To be fair Dave if you are going to watch SD and NXT then the toxicity of the company has nothing to do with your decision. If it was about the toxicity you wouldn't watch any of their programming.

What do you want, disorder? Disorder?

GD 05-07-2019 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5250275)
To be fair Dave if you are going to watch SD and NXT then the toxicity of the company has nothing to do with your decision. If it was about the toxicity you wouldn't watch any of their programming.

That's true. I don't want to see Smackdown or NXT either. It's just something I want to do gradually. Don't want to go cold turkey.

GD 05-07-2019 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5250276)
How, as a long-time wrestling fan, is the toxicity only effecting you now?

My interest in the product is nowhere near it was just a few years ago. I am using the toxic environment excuse to ease myself into the decision.

GD 05-07-2019 12:26 PM

I feel like I am every other fan who dislikes the current product but keeps on watching the product out of habit. There are moments that make it worthwhile but the amount of time and dedication they ask from a fan is ludicrous compared to what we get in return. It's like you know you're in a bad relationship but don't want to quit because it is comforting.

XL 05-07-2019 12:55 PM

Sunk cost effect.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-07-2019 01:01 PM

Never understand how people act like WWE sucking is a revelation. They use terms like 'the current product' as though the product hasn't been some form of this since 2001.

GD 05-07-2019 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5250295)
Never understand how people act like WWE sucking is a revelation. They use terms like 'the current product' as though the product hasn't been some form of this since 2001.

It's not a revelation. It's just a choice to not follow it as closely.

GD 05-07-2019 01:08 PM

Their insistence on changing things on the fly, not committing to anything. The introduction of the "Wild Card Rules" concept after a sad and depressing Superstar Shakeup.

Also, found this video comparison on SquaredCircle to be quite interesting.

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Ol Dirty Dastard 05-07-2019 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250297)
It's not a revelation. It's just a choice to not follow it as closely.

It only took almost 2 decades!

GD 05-07-2019 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5250299)
It only took almost 2 decades!

It's true. I am still not quitting the product entirely. I just refuse to allocate three hours on Monday. That's a start. If Smackdown also reeks of the same stale product, I won't hesitate to quit it either.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-07-2019 01:16 PM

THAT'LL SHOW THEM

GD 05-07-2019 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5250301)
THAT'LL SHOW THEM

I apologize if that’s the impression I gave. I am just cutting my loses and moving on.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-07-2019 01:39 PM

you are falling out of love w wrestling. you weeny

GD 05-07-2019 01:42 PM

I know :(

Evil Vito 05-07-2019 01:46 PM

I remember when I was doing a watch-through of 2002 right after the roster split, same time period Cool King was doing except I didn't do posts about it.

And maaaaaaaaaaaan did Raw ever suck. The amazing thing though is I remember loving it at the time. Just goes to show that being 13 made me more likely to simply accept what I get and not think too hard about it.

2002 SmackDown definitely held up though. Usually one or two great matches a week and some fun characters. Only thing that really grinds my gears about those shows is the grating piped in cheers and boos that they were still using right up until SmackDown went live.

Big Vic 05-07-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250262)
I did not watch a minute of RAW this week. I read the results and some dirtsheets. Genuinely turned off by the aftermath of the Superstar shakeup and it meaning jackshit. Also the amount of toxicity in this company is one of the primary reasons for me to do so. I’ll attempt to keep up with Smackdown and NXT for now.

The whole wildcard thing makes me not want to tune into smackdown.

Emperor Smeat 05-07-2019 02:29 PM

WWE was really lucky they signed their mega tv deal last year since the Observer reported the general feeling within the tv industry is wrestling is now a "cold" market for television. All due to WWE's rapid decline and woes this year.

That makes it harder for AEW to get a great deal for their planned weekly tv show and Impact's chances on finding a better network since they desperately want to get out of Pursuit in a few months.

Bad News Gertner 05-07-2019 02:45 PM

I was thinking about that yesterday. What if Vince is sabotaging his product so AEW will end up getting a shitty T.V deal

GD 05-07-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by /r/SC
I have been a fan of the WWF/WWE since 1987, always been super loyal like I'm sure many others here. But I decided to stop watching Raw and Smackdown as of last week and just catch the highlights on YouTube instead. I've saved 5 hours a week and more importantly saved some of my own sanity. I'll stick to NXT, Takeovers and WWE PPVs. And other Network specials. I just can't do Raw specifically any more, and right now Smackdown feels like a waste of time too. The product has become beyond stale IMHO, and is incredibly formulaic. I knew I reached a tipping point recently when the smallest "WWE habit" ticked me off... like wrestlers slamming mics after every promo, or every promo sounding wooden and lifeless. Heck, even hearing "Because at (name of upcoming PPV)" has irked me to no ends. I realized it was time to filter my viewing experience and make it work better for me.

I'm sure I'm far from the only one. I am really hoping AEW hits it out of the park and gets WWE trying again. Because right now they're phoning it in. The little bits I caught tonight... it seems like Vince has become a parody of himself, and it's sad to see. The Wild Card rule seems like a desperate attempt to provide some different creative avenues, but it just came off as kind of pathetic following the Superstar Shakeup. It's as if nothing matters or counts in WWE any more. They're just killing time. Shoot, I'd rather play my huge backlog of video games, or read a good book to fill the time.

That Usos-Revival segment was awful beyond belief... pro wrestling done right is really good. It's not that complicated. But somehow the WWE is getting it wrong on so many levels. It's become hard to watch, so until it gets better, I'll stick to highlights and PPVs. And hoping AEW gives the North American wrestling industry the shot in the arm it so desperately needs.


Seanny One Ball 05-07-2019 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250298)
Their insistence on changing things on the fly, not committing to anything. The introduction of the "Wild Card Rules" concept after a sad and depressing Superstar Shakeup.

Also, found this video comparison on SquaredCircle to be quite interesting.

<iframe src='https://gfycat.com/ifr/UnlawfulAnyHarborporpoise' frameborder='0' scrolling='no' allowfullscreen width='640' height='404'></iframe>


Who is the huge guy in red trunks? He looks like Krampus or something. Game Of Thrones could have used him.

GD 05-07-2019 03:30 PM

Lars Sullivan.

Also,

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Emperor Smeat 05-07-2019 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5250341)
I was thinking about that yesterday. What if Vince is sabotaging his product so AEW will end up getting a shitty T.V deal

I could see that being believable if this was something that only happened suddenly like WWE's rapid decline in quality and interest post-Hulkamania era or post-Invasion storyline.

Instead this has been something that's been self-inflicted for years and only now has gotten to the point where its becoming impossible to ignore or sweep away. WWE's biggest blunders were not learning their lessons from the booking mistakes with the Cena era and not grooming Cena's kids market to be their future core viewers.

In the span of a few months, WWE went from being one of the hottest properties in television to now being closer to "ice cold" status. If they were a regular tv style show, they would have been canceled by now and the only reason it hasn't happened is due to their ability to provide weekly content without needing seasonal breaks.

erickman 05-07-2019 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5250330)
WWE was really lucky they signed their mega tv deal last year since the Observer reported the general feeling within the tv industry is wrestling is now a "cold" market for television. All due to WWE's rapid decline and woes this year.

That makes it harder for AEW to get a great deal for their planned weekly tv show and Impact's chances on finding a better network since they desperately want to get out of Pursuit in a few months.

I wondered why aew did not sign a deal yet

Emperor Smeat 05-07-2019 04:23 PM

Turner Broadcasting supposedly got cold feet once they found out All In was produced by ROH and not by The Elite.

Its why Double or Nothing is speculated to be a "proof of concept" event for AEW to convince tv networks they can produce a quality show on their own.

erickman 05-07-2019 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5250382)
Turner Broadcasting supposedly got cold feet once they found out All In was produced by ROH and not by The Elite.

Its why Double or Nothing is speculated to be a "proof of concept" event for AEW to convince tv networks they can produce a quality show on their own.

the funny thing is keith Mitchel used to produce for wcw and some of the old guys at tbs know his work will be producing.


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