Tony Khan has to wear A LOT of the blame. He let The Elite run wild politically. Adam Page got away with his double-cross. Nothing was settled in the meantime. It’s just a mess.

Lol, one of the goobers is reporting that Chris Jericho told CM Punk he is a cancer to the locker room and a detriment to the business. Was Jericho trying to compliment Punk’s game?

CM Phils schvantz must taste amazing considering how much you have it in your mouth these days.

CM Punk can retire if he wants. He’s good, but I can do without him. The Elite are total scum though.

Dave Meltzer is peddling more of their bullshit, by the way. He’s regurgitating the “dog story would have surfaced shit.” You weren’t fed it by The Elite, Dave.

So Dave, who makes money peddling bullshit, is peddling more bullshit?!?!!?




KAYFABE IS SO DED!

There’s a difference between working and being worked.

Now I feel real gross that I came to that conclusion. Unless Dave lurks here and stole my opinion, I was clearly wrong.

Also, Jericho telling somebody else they are detrimental to a locker room is amazing. :rofl:

Jericho is right if true

There’s lots of anti-Punk stories coming out now. There’s a lot of people asking “Why are we just hearing about the dog now?” but conversely, isn’t it more odd that we’re getting a string of anti-Punk stuff now? :lol:

It’s all a symptom of how AEW is run and the culture there. You can’t trust shit coming from its management.

It’s hilarious to imagine Jericho, confidently and sincerely, dressed up as him gimmick with his lackeys around, telling CM Punk he’s only in it for himself.

I was actually in the Mohegan Sun casino today (where tonight’s live Rampage takes place). My mom and I had planned a day off to gamble for a while now.

I figured I’d it was a good card, what the hell, walk up and buy tickets and just make it a late night since I’ve got a 2 hour drive home.

Tonight’s card? Horrendous. Mox/Menard could be fun but is obviously a foregone conclusion…then you have Wardlow/Taven and Conti/Rayne.

Genuinely an embarrassing card for a stand-alone Ranpage you’ve sold tickets for.

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Dunno if anyone posted it yet but Bandido and Juice Robinson have signed AEW contracts. lmao more people they have no time for, yay.

In saying that, it was reported that Bandido signed like a month ago and then that story was retracted the next day, so I won't be surprised if this ends up being taken back as well.

AEW should not hire anybody new. I don't listen to Cornette often, but he spent an hour going through who on the AEW roster they should keep or cut. He only went through the men, and he only got through people named A-N. 1 hour, only got through half the alphabet. That is how bloated the roster is, but yeah, let's add CJ Parker :rofl:

It’s beyond parody at this point. This is the same company that said they wouldn’t make the same mistakes as WCW. They’ve got Chris Jericho and The Elite running around like Hulk Hogan if he knew how to use the Observer and about 120 people on the Nailz deal.

It is fucking ludicrous that they’ve got Brian Cage under contract, he’s had like 2 matches this year and they EXTENDED his contract. That’s Iron Sheik stuff.

The video game is going to come out and you’re going to have CM Punk on the cover and a roster that has Abadon, Kip Sabian and Frankie Kazarian but likely no FTR. It’s fucking nuts.

There’s no drama in any of the matches on Rampage ever.

lolAEW

Brian Last has made another not-so-subtle reference to there being something about Kenny Omega that AEW doesn’t want to get out about him. It came up during Cornette’s AEW roster evaluation.

Also, I can’t remember if it’s been brought up here, but Last has also alluded to a closeness between Jericho and Megha Parekh. So when people talk about her being AEW’s lawyer and #2, it’s probably important to keep in mind the possibility that she is fucking Chris Jericho how much influence that gives him and how unbiased that makes her.

I’ve seen people act like she is a “neutral party” and her being allegedly present for the brawl excuses them not interviewing Lucy Guy. She’s quite possibly part of the corruption.

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Alright, so I just heard that AEW booked The Firm to turn on MJF.

I heard Alvarez defending this. I’ve been masochistic and been in a mood to listen to things that are going to frustrate me to no end. I don’t know why I do it to myself lol. Alvarez was crowing about how no harm can come from a babyface MJF turn. That’s just flat-out wrong. This is probably sabotage. But that’s what you get for signing with this company, I guess.

But let’s say you wanted to turn MJF face. You can’t do a promo where he goes after Moxley and says “A few years ago I tried to take that World Title from you and I failed. I was a prodigy and I talked the talk, but I found out the hard way that every stupid rumor about you is true. I hate it, but you’re every bit as good as they say. You dress like crap but you’ve earned millions being at the top of the game for so long. But I’m not going to be knocked back again. I am going to be the change that AEW needs and this time I am forcing you to get up to my level.” They’ve got to have his group turn on him and beat the piss out of him to try and make people feel sympathy for him. It makes no sense. Why do you feel sorry for that asshole? He didn’t do anything active.

This is classic WWE booking, actually. It’s Vince’s fetish for humiliating people. This is not how you get a babyface over.

Now, there are people who say this is a SWERVE! The Firm are going to be with MJF all along. You know, the old Vince Russo trick. The heels beat up their own guy but secretly they all love each other and wrestling’s fake bro. Alvarez defended this because AEW is doing it. He says MJF is “the devil,” so it makes sense for him to go to such measures. What? Why? Why not NOT have your guys beat you up? If Moxley actually falls for that, then he’s a stupid babyface.

This is stupid either way you cut it. The best case scenario is that The Firm legit turned on MJF to go off on their own and he is still a heel. It’s messy, but it doesn’t fuck with anyone and could help The Firm.

But that is such a Jericho idea if I ever heard one. It reeks of the same gaps in logic and disregard for the faces as his current ROH World Champion thing. I bet Jericho still hasn’t let the NY Times article and Punk and MJF’s jabs at him go.

lmao

Nick Hausman has shared more of the alleged CM Punk side of the story. Not too much more, but basically Punk reached out to Hausman to apologize for the press scrum. Hausman told Punk he wasn’t friends with Colt Cabana anymore and said Punk didn’t owe him an apology really, but Punk did it anyway.

Hausman told this to Dave off the record, but Dave reported it anyway.

Hausman reached out to Punk’s camp about his side, not vice versa. He got the impression that Punk won’t wrestle again, but there are similarities between Punk and Cody who partly left because he was alienated in the locker room and had rumors spread about him by The Elite — the same thing happened with Punk. I’m not sure if this comes from Hausman drawing the comparisons or Punk doing it, sorry. But The Elite aren’t above sabotaging people and Hausman thinks he got a lot from Punk’s side because they’re frustrated.

Hausman is skeptical of the integrity of the investigation. Apparently contact between the investigators and Punk’s side was minimal. That’s probably the freshest detail from Hausman’s most recent appearance. He feels Punk is frustrated that the information out there is so one-sided.

Colt Cabana was a part of the badmouthing before Punk even got there — Hausman believes it because Colt did the same to him in the Chicago comedy scene.

holy shit now Noid is blaming MJFs booking on Jericho now because Jericho dared to tell CM Punk how trash he is. What a fucking maroon.

The Repeated Rise and Fall of Noid onto CM Punks Penis. This season on Dork Side of The Ring.

Cry harder. Jericho is a piece of shit and has sucked for years.

Slurp up that AEW kool-aid. Want a boot to go with it?

:rofl: love it

I love how all these guys can badmouth a ton of different people, but if Colt Cabana badmouths them, it all fucking burns. Why are they so fragile about Scotty Boom Boom, of all people?

He was just the tool The Elite used to try and fuck with Punk’s influence behind the scenes.

Imagine hating AEW so much you assume that the female head of legal must be fucking talent because the investigation didn’t yield the result you wanted.

From "believe women, always" to this. Unreal.

it's even better coming from the guy that was lecturing a queer about homophobia recently

Funny how the only person who agrees with Noid happens to be Dale. That speaks volumes in itself.

:kiss:

It tells us that Noid is a free thinker and visionary.

Those are fancy words for "wrong".

Imagine being so twisted this is what you think is actually going on.

Poor AEW having me picking on it.

Lol at Meltzer reporting that “some top names” in AEW refuse to work with Punk.

I’m sure Jericho, Omega, Page, The Bucks and Matt Hardy said that.

It’s funny how Meltzer has to keep those sources quiet. It’s very important that *some* of the top names in AEW let it be known they refuse to work with Punk. They’ve got standards after all. But don’t quote them on that.

Punk’s main issue is he’s a piss-poor politicker. And that’s a knock—politics are life and vice versa. I don’t think there’s anything all that wrong with him giving a Jackson brother a smack and I feel if he was willing to make nice afterwards just to move forward, all would be well. But he’s the type to double down and take the path of most resistance.

Honestly even if he apologized, he would still be the guy who punched a buck. He’d still have sway given the size of his contract. And well, Ace Steele bit someone so he’s collateral damage.

Left this comment on a YouTube video weeks before All Out:

"CM Punk is proving to be the king of dishing it out but unable to take it, that he is exactly what he claims to hate, a mark for himself and cancer to the locker room."

I would be good if we never hear from Punk again. He got some good Shad $ out of all this, he needs to retire and fuck off from the wrestling business forever.

To be fair though, I would have been good never hearing from him again before the scrum and fighting :rofl:

It's been said over and over, but how it went from the insanity of his return to this in one year is shocking but also pretty fitting.

Crazy how everywhere punk goes this happens. Why are people so unfair to him?

I hope Punk goes back to UFC, he deserves another public embarrassment :lol:

It's on brand.

Yeah, he’s exactly the sort of guy who would tell his story in an investigation, admit he did wrong, eat his lumps and expect the punishment to go round equally, only to discover that the other people told stories of purple monsters and dragons fighting knights.

When people in a toxic workplace don’t like you, you’re going to get in trouble whatever you do. If you don’t eat in the lunchroom, you’re antisocial; if you do, you’re trying to take over the lunchroom. He can’t negotiate that environment, because his mentality would be “I was just trying to eat lunch on my break.”

I really doubt he would want to return. If his goal is to help younger talent, he’s better off going to train at the Performance Center. In AEW, anyone he works with is going to receive pushback. Even if they learn how to work better, they’re going to be a political outcast. The well is poisoned.

Where is this “Punk can’t take it” coming from? Is it because Adam Page cut that promo live on Dynamite? Because there’s a difference between doing it behind the scenes, cutting a worked promo and going off-script and into business for yourself.

Tony Khan would have set a direction for Punk/Page. They all would have been clued in on what that is. Punk seemed interested in working with Page. He probably offered pointers on the promo and had input in the creative direction of the program (if not outright control). For a guy to walk out there and use his time to go in the opposite direction is absolutely insane and unprofessional. It’s fair enough to want an apology for that. Tony really fucked up by not putting his foot down there, because Page shat all over him too.

That’s not the same as “not being able to take it.” Say whatever you want about him, but Punk has always been the butt of a lot of jokes and had very vocal critics (sometimes rightfully so). To say the guy has thin skin is a bit of a sweetened perspective based on dislike. The dude went out there, got his ass hammered in the UFC and still has the audacity to go on TV and act like a tough guy.

I never got the TNA story, but WWE and AEW are two places. He didn’t work in 2014 WWE in the end. He didn’t get fired, he quit in a huff because he was burnt and didn’t like the creative direction for himself (and made the case for others, but who knows how self-serving this is). That doesn’t necessarily mean that AEW being a clown show where the talons are already out for him (pre-existing heat with Chris Jericho, Colt Cabana, etc.) is irrelevant.

I get once you’re labelled a problem child, bad teachers are going to blame you for everything, but that’s a tool for the sneaky children to use you as a scapegoat too. I guarantee this isn’t going to be the last of AEW’s backstage problems. And it wasn’t the first.

Conversely, haven’t The Bucks had heat everywhere they went too? In WWE they pissed off the vets with their attitudes. They left TNA in a huff to try and go to ROH, who didn’t really want them in the first place. New Japan got cranky at them for the whole AEW thing. Kenny Omega had heat with ROH and New Japan at different points. I don’t know what kind of impression he made in WWE developmental, but there are the stories about him being a prick at Harley Race’s camp.

I sympathize with and am similar to a few of the ways CM Punk is and live a lonely life because it.

I’m familiar with the ways of guys like Chris Jericho, Omega & The Bucks too. Punk is a blunt asshole. They’re sneaky assholes.

Punk is also likely a narcissist about his work. He probably thinks it’s better than it even is, but he at least strives for greatness. Jericho and The Elite want whatever they do to be seen as greatness.

Punk’s the kid who wants to get an A so he can go summer camp. Jericho and The Elite are the kids who get a new bike if they’re top of the class but are sitting on B’s.

Danielson’s the smartest guy in the class but is getting C’s because he doesn’t want to be fighting after school.

Moxley’s eating glue.

Tony Khan is the teacher who leaves a glass vase on his desk with a soccer ball in the room and tells his class not to kick it while he goes out of the room for 10 minutes, and if it does get broken, it’s going to come down to a vote as to who gets punished.

Yeah like I get CM Punk is an asshole but Jericho emerging from this as more of a locker room leader could have far reaching negative consequences. He’s an aging glory hound whose best days are behind him. I really dug some of his new Japan stuff when he started being more vicious but then he just got weird and lost in the sauce.


The Bucks and Omega will keep lowering AEW’s ceiling of course. On top of that, I can’t help but look at the treatment of thunder Rosa and question what’s going on behind the scenes in that company. Also, Cody. And Rusev being wasted tells me all I need to know as well.

I’m still more on the side of AEW in the “war” because unlike the Noidster, they serve such a crucial purpose as the opposition, even if AEW is a facsimile of a competitor. But Tony’s handling of this situation and many others are worrisome. The Sammy and Andrade beef is another situation he totally bungled.

It seems they’re going to veer more into indyriffic bucks and Kenny bullshit, too. So there’s that to dread.

That pretty much nails Jericho. He’s completely sold out what he once laid down as his artistic principles. To say “lost in the sauce” is right.

I get people want an alternative to WWE. I do too. I really do. I really hope something falls out in the coming months, years, etc. A lot of guys have a lot of money now. A network could get interested but not want to go into business with a pre-existing party. Hell, Punk could start his own splinter cell promotion when he heals up and maybe some AEW guys like FTR, MJF, Wardlow, Starks, Hobbs and Miro get free.

Splinter Cell Wrestling has got a ring to it. SCW was the name of the territory Joe Blanchard used to run. Could be a good homage if they can use those initials in a promotion with Tessa Blanchard (on good behavior watch) as the top female star. Plus you’ve got “SC,” “Second City.” It’s the promotion born from the fire of AEW. Just some branding ideas.

But anyway, I hope something shakes up this paradigm, because WWE as monopoly isn’t good and AEW isn’t cutting it.

I’m really hoping for a NOAH-like exodus from AEW lol.

I’m also hoping WWE under Triple H considers trying on some different flavors. I’ve heard Triple H and Jim Cornette both attribute “chocolate, vanilla” to Vince McMahon (in terms of different flavors you can serve people). But everything in WWE has the same goddamn flavor. Even if the recipe has improved lately.

WWE own the WCW IP. Try something different in an 18x18 and don’t slap WWE all over it. Please.

Tony Khan is the teacher who wants to go to dinner at his student's house, then they catch him getting too friendly with their dogs.

AEW is deadly.

The reason he leaves the children unattended is to jack-off a pinscher that wandered onto school grounds.

That I believe! LOL fucking Tiny Khan

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Pretty awesome that Cody is back in WWE, though. His return is going to be epic and I can only assume Triple H as the head of creative will make it even better.

Assuming he wins the Royal Rumble and defeats Roman at WrestleMania.

Lol, that seems to be the implication. I don’t really buy Cody’s tweet. Maybe he’s being genuine…I dunno. It seems like it could be a political flex. But he did seem to say a lot without saying it, didn’t he?

It could also be a dig at Chris Jericho too.

I don’t think this needed to be stated.

So, what was Cody’s tweet?

Exact Tweet below...

"I didn’t leave because of the Bucks/Kenny. I’m forever bonded to those men over what we created and I remain very proud of it, and I didn’t leave because of/or have issues with Punk. We got along. Not money, not booking, just a personal issue and my wanting to go for the big one."

He didn't specifically name Will Hobbs as being fine with him though so Hobbs backstage cancer confirmed, AEW to shut down in the coming weeks due to it.

Well yeah, nobody asked if he left because of Will Hobbs. That said, Hobbs turned on Ricky Starks, and that is Cody's boy, so Hobbs is probably a jerk!

Fortunately for Cody, returning to WWE was always his goal so he can easily fall back on that being the reason. Even if there is actually more to it than that.

There’s more.

I didn’t realize Hobbs was a powerbroker in AEW. Fuck, dude’s pretty humble not even putting himself on TV.

LOLOL!!!! That's fantastic

I could definitely see it being Jericho, but with all the struggles this company has had in the past few weeks, I just tend to believe that it is Tony Khan.

Wasn't it Khan who came up with the idea that Cody will have a match and if he loses, he will never get a World Title Shot in the company?

Like Cody was red hot at the beginning of AEW and that's the angle you take with your company?

Probably should have seen this all from the start.

Cody shouldn't dethrone Reigns, get outta here.

Definitely remember Cody saying at the time that the “I can never challenge for the world title again” thing was his idea and that the other EVPs and Tony were against it. He said he didn’t wanna face the same criticism others, mainly Dusty, had faced booking himself on top and wanted to nip it in the bud immediately.

I recall that as well. But we are all unwashed marks.

Well the whole point of a “such and such can’t challenge” angle is that they eventually get to challenge. Everyone was so certain that it was going somewhere…nope.

Cody had his issues in AEW. But he also faced issues. He was clearly more a pro-wrestling guy than The Elite were. Cody made some references early on about the bad refereeing and how you won’t see refs ignoring blatant interference in the future. Lol.

A clear divide obviously popped up between Cody’s camp and The Elite’s camp. They didn’t appear in his reality show. Omega himself brought them up on Dave’s show. If things were sunshine and roses, things wouldn’t have been the way they were.

TK, Jericho, The Elite, Punk, Danielson coming in — it could have been a bunch of things. But it is interesting what Cody didn’t mention in a tweet that was clearly going to be analyzed. And hey, that could be a strategic move too. Making TK or Jericho the problem when they aren’t going anywhere is a good way to make talent uncomfortable there and either force the company to shift from the outside or unify talent in their discomfort.

Could be the first subtle shot in an Elite/Jericho war.

lol all I'll say is every time I hear Britt Baker open her mouth outside of a kayfabe context, she sounds like such a bootlicker. Probably Destor's favorite wrestler at this point.

Hard disagree. Dude was massively over and is going to be even more over when he comes back. You also have the built in storyline of Cody winning the title his father never could.

There is no better option than Cody right now.

Well, how else is she going to get to go to all the Basketball, Football, and American Football games?

I'll reserve that for when he comes back and how it's done..... but yeah. He never has seemed like "the man" to me, even in AEW. Better than he was in WWE, but still not "it".


I don't give a shit about him winning something his daddy didn't. I'm sure that'll tug some heart strings because RIP Dusty.


And the fact there is "no better option" IS the fucking problem IMO. Honestly, right now, Sami Zayn has a better story as to why/how he will dethrone Reigns.





I'm aware this is an unpopular opinion, much like my views on both Edge and Christian.

Cody looks like a star, and carrys himself like a star. And he is consistently able to get the audience emotionally invested in what hes doing, whether its a promo or in the ring. A feat only a handful of guys are capable of accomplishing these days.

As amazing as sami and this storyline has been, I just can't see him as the one to dethrone reigns and be the guy. Cod's story and presentation just feels much more grandiose and fitting of the gravitas that comes with a wrestlemania program.

Sami will likely get betrayed, and it will lead to him reuniting with Owens as they've been teasing.

I'm with drave on this one. Cody just doesn't seem like "the guy". He still seems like someone pretending to be a bigger star than he actually is, and I feel like the more people see of him the more he will get "exposed"... such as how the AEW fans eventually turned on him and started booing. The switch to WWE made him fresh and exciting, but he still is just not as big a star as he wants to pretend to be.

The fact is there is literally no one ready or "at the level" to take the belt off of Roman Reigns.

As I have been saying elsewhere, I can really see it being Sami Zayn... but it isn't like he is going to be a "serious" champion or be a very long reining one.... but someone has to take the belt off Reigns eventually, and right now the way the story is going, that man should be Sami Zayn. Then the title can eventually go back "down a level" to where sure, eventually Cody can win it and have a run, why not?

Just feel like Sami taking the title is the perfect WM moment and buildup. Cody would be a letdown.

I have seen this mentioned about cody several times before, and I don't understand it at all.

How is he supposed to act? The whole point of wrestling is showmanship and acting like you're hot shit. Should he be yet another of these endless, boring, humble, so happy to be here guys? If everyone acted like they were a bigger star than they are, then wrestling as whole would be better.

Like, I'm not trying to be a dick here, but what the hell do you guys want from the guy?

This seems counter productive to me. We've spent years complaining that the wwe titles don't mean anything. Now we have one of the best reigns (lol) we've ever had, the title is more prestigious than its been in years, and you want to end with a guy you just admitted wouldn't be a serious long reigning champion, and would depreciate the value of belt enough for the guy you dont like to get it?

Help me out here, Jaw man.

I'm not saying that he 100% shouldn't act like that, and you're right, everybody should. Just saying that I don't necessarily always need to buy into what they are selling.

Like when they started presenting Jinder Mahal as main event world champion. Now, that is quite an unfair comparison because Cody is MILES ahead of Jinder Mahal. Just saying that it is a thing to be presented as/pretend to be a bigger star than you are, and it doesn't work all the time.

The title is gonna get depreciated no matter what once it gets taken off of Reigns, because there is no one else on that level.

So it might as well be with the best story/moment possible. That just isn't Cody, sorry. If it is Cody, the same goes for him, he wouldn't be a super long reigning champ and the title would still be depreciated......

So go for the best story/moment. That is what will stick out in the anals of history. (Spelling mistake on purpose because it is funny)

That's fair, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Cody checks all the boxes for me, for what a top star should be.

And that's fine. I'm not one of those here to say my opinion is right and yours is wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts, feelings, and opinions. :y:

Well the story right now is between Sami and Jey, and I'm not sure I have faith in them to successfully transition all the heat to Sami and Reigns. Part of the reason this has worked so well is the chemistry between sami and jey. I still think we're headed towards Sami and Owens vs the Usos. We've seen the little moments where owens still believes in sami.

Nobody is taking the belt off Roman until Disney buys WWE and Roman retires.

I agree with Fignuts, Cody’s the guy to do it, especially after the torn pec, they lucked into this story.

Cody’s fine. I’m not feeling it right now, but he’s been gone. If he wins the Rumble and has the promos with Reigns, it could feel perfect. But there are other options they could go with too.

Lock Jaw summed it up well. I don't see him as "bad" - I just don't see him as "the guy" is all. And to your point, everyone DOES think they're hot shit (or should anyway), but when everyone does it, it's just kinda.... there.


I dunno man, just can't picture him dethroning Reigns. It would feel very underwhelming. I know I'm in the minority.

Well either way its a good sign we've got two different guys we can can argue towards main eventing wrestlemania, and getting excited for.

Cause usually its fucking nobody.