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slik 03-31-2019 03:52 AM

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GD 03-31-2019 04:27 AM

With Mania around the corner

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Mr. Nerfect 03-31-2019 05:09 AM

With New Japan needing something to help them spruce up Dallas and the Tokyo Dome shows next year, and with AEW about to launch and possibly get a fair bit of attention, do you think a New Japan/WWE relationship is completely out of the question.

WWE don’t need it, but with the recent strategy to boost ratings being “let’s call up the top four from NXT,” maybe there’s some appeal in working with #3 to bring in some fresh faces they have to protect (and god knows they need some protected stars). There are some WWE talent who could get a lot out of some New Japan appearances too (Cesaro and Harper come to mind). They could also do Jushin Liger vs. Rey Mysterio at some point.

Bad News Gertner 03-31-2019 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5237650)
So keen to see that Bret/Magee match.

They tried for YEARS to get Tom Magee over and it didn't work. He worked the C Show loop for a long time and that's why there isn't a ton of footage on him because those shows weren't taped. I can't wait to see this match

Evil Vito 03-31-2019 07:47 AM

If Magee could’ve worked one iota, he’d have 100% gotten a WWF Title reign

Bad News Gertner 03-31-2019 08:45 AM

The WWF matches that I've seen of Magee weren't that bad. No worse than the majority of House Show matches from that time.

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-31-2019 11:51 AM

No and I saw a match where he did a standing shooting star press from the top rope and landed on his feet.

Vastardikai 03-31-2019 12:22 PM

The only full Magee match I saw featured him looking fairly decent against Arn Anderson. And a lot of that was AA bumping like a pro while Magee was doing backflips and looking goofy as hell in between.

Bad News Gertner 03-31-2019 12:27 PM

He was doing a touring match with Terry Gibbs on the C show loop for months and I've seen a couple of those matches. They weren't bad by any means. He just looks awkward.

Bad News Gertner 03-31-2019 12:29 PM

Here's one of them


Ol Dirty Dastard 03-31-2019 01:10 PM

lol I've seen that match.

Tom was fine, just didn't have the charisma or intensity.

slik 03-31-2019 01:16 PM

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Gerard 03-31-2019 02:11 PM

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Devastating!

Vastardikai 03-31-2019 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5237691)
lol I've seen that match.

Tom was fine, just didn't have the charisma or intensity.

It didn't help that Terry Gibbs is no Arn Anderson or Bret Hart.

Bad News Gertner 03-31-2019 04:46 PM

Gibbs was a solid veteran jobber who could have passable matches with guys like Magee

Vastardikai 03-31-2019 05:24 PM

Fair enough. He was no Brawler or Sharpe, though.

Bad News Gertner 03-31-2019 05:33 PM

He was better than Brawler. Sharpe is untouchable lol

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-31-2019 05:40 PM

In watching back, I'll take a Gibbs match over a Lombardi match.

Jose-Luis Rivera is my guy though...for all the wrong reasons.

Mr. Nerfect 03-31-2019 06:32 PM

Magee didn't look awful in that Gibbs match. If he came around today, he'd be pushed regardless.

Innovator 03-31-2019 06:49 PM

Magee makes Lex Luger look like Dusty Rhodes charisma wise

Mr. Nerfect 03-31-2019 06:53 PM

Apparently there is scuttlebutt that SmackDown will be getting a third hour to air on FS1 when they move to FOX.

Bad News Gertner 03-31-2019 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5237728)
In watching back, I'll take a Gibbs match over a Lombardi match.

Jose-Luis Rivera is my guy though...for all the wrong reasons.

Lol poor Jose.

Emperor Smeat 03-31-2019 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5237670)
If Magee could’ve worked one iota, he’d have 100% gotten a WWF Title reign

Yeup and probably a very good chance the famous champ vs champ match at Mania VI occurs a year or two earlier with Magee in the Ultimate Warrior role instead.


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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5237734)
Magee didn't look awful in that Gibbs match. If he came around today, he'd be pushed regardless.

He's the type of wrestler that would have absolutely befitted if he had access to WWE's modern day developmental/learning system or worked the territories first for the valuable experience.

Mr. Nerfect 03-31-2019 07:17 PM

Now almost everybody looks a little awkward while trying to carry themselves.

Emperor Smeat 03-31-2019 08:33 PM

Seems another controversy involving WWE is being put into the mainstream spotlight, albeit one that has been around for decades and came really close last year to being changed via the courts.

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HBO and WWE may be at it again.

Fightful Select reported this afternoon that various sources confirmed Sunday that WWE's independent contractor status will be covered on HBO show "Last Week Tonight". The episode, which we were let to believe was set to air on Sunday Night, is a political show mixed with elements of satire and comedy aimed at exposing injustices with host John Oliver. The show spoke to several names in the industry.

This isn't the first time WWE has been brought up in the show. Last year, Oliver and Last Week Tonight covered various happenings in Saudi Arabia, and naturally, the WWE relationship was subsequently covered.

Fightful contributor David Bixenspan confirmed that the story was to be the focal point of the episode.

The show was a hot topic among several wrestlers that we spoke to who were backstage at WWE's live event in Hershey, Pennsylvania on Sunday. One told us that they didn't think it was a coincidence that the topic was being talked about one week away from WWE WrestleMania 35.


Bad News Gertner 03-31-2019 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5237742)
Yeup and probably a very good chance the famous champ vs champ match at Mania VI occurs a year or two earlier with Magee in the Ultimate Warrior role instead.




He's the type of wrestler that would have absolutely befitted if he had access to WWE's modern day developmental/learning system or worked the territories first for the valuable experience.


He was actually sent to stampede when the WWF was sorta using it as a Developmental territory. They did the same with Outback Jack and Ted Arcidi

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-31-2019 08:56 PM

That Gibbs match. I didn't see all of it but that top rope leap was crazy.

Mr. Nerfect 03-31-2019 08:58 PM

WWE is such a fucking shady promotion. Their history is riddled with a bunch of bullshit, the independent contractor stuff is bullshit, the Saudi stuff is ridiculous, and that doesn't even touch the scandals.

Emperor Smeat 03-31-2019 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5237754)
He was actually sent to stampede when the WWF was sorta using it as a Developmental territory. They did the same with Outback Jack and Ted Arcidi

Probably should have spent a lot more time there if his skills ended up being that deceiving to Vince and the wrestling world in general.

Read elsewhere of the theory that WWE actually has the master copy in their library and its only been "lost" due to Vince's ego. Supposedly he doesn't want to be seen as a big fool if the match ever resurfaced and the notable bad blood he had with Bret years later. Same with the bad blood he had with Stu to a smaller degree.

Droford 03-31-2019 09:38 PM

I hate John Olver but most of the stuff he manages to not bash Trump over I agree with. Id assume Trump's relationship with Vince means he'll be mentioned about 7 times durring the segment unless its real short

Tom Guycott 03-31-2019 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5237662)
With New Japan needing something to help them spruce up Dallas and the Tokyo Dome shows next year, and with AEW about to launch and possibly get a fair bit of attention, do you think a New Japan/WWE relationship is completely out of the question.

WWE don’t need it, but with the recent strategy to boost ratings being “let’s call up the top four from NXT,” maybe there’s some appeal in working with #3 to bring in some fresh faces they have to protect (and god knows they need some protected stars). There are some WWE talent who could get a lot out of some New Japan appearances too (Cesaro and Harper come to mind). They could also do Jushin Liger vs. Rey Mysterio at some point.

... because they have done soooo well with the likes of Kana, Nakamura, Gallows & Anderson, and KENTA. Even Devitt is debatable at the moment. Hell, the only person who got half a chance from there is AJ Styles, and his trip to Japan was pretty much to scrub TNA stink off of him.

In fact, it is specifically the treatment of Shinsuke Nakamura more than anyone else that is the biggest barometer of my judgment. The man should have been WWE Champion at least once at this point, especially when his stock was up. He already paid his dues in his career, and WWE has this "well, you need to start over with us" mentality for most people. At this point, they've just established to the fans that he isn't as good as even the hype they themselves gave him. He is in a random midcard tag team. This after being an OVER AS FUCK babyface and the surprisingly glorious "no shpeak Engrish" heel turn that the company apparently didn't know what to do with. Why multiply that by, say, a whole entire other roster?

The biggest hurdle I can see, if this were ever any kind of possible to maintain a sustained relationship like New Japan currently has with Ring of Honor, is that WWE would be pretty adverse to putting any of the New Japan talent over in any type of matchups people would want to see. What I mean is, there is no way we'd get a Cena vs Okada type of match. We wouldn't get GoD vs Usos. It would be a series of squash matches of lesser card members eating pins for the stars.

Also, Liger already had a WWE match with Tyler Breeze. You wouldn't remember it now, because WWE has done a fantastic job of burying Breeze over the years since then. It wasn't as great as Zayn vs Nakamura, but obviously Liger is legendary, and he gets called in to establish that he's such a big deal you need to bring in Liger... and you end up doing nothing with that? The hell, WWE?!

Tom Guycott 03-31-2019 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5237777)
I hate John Olver but most of the stuff he manages to not bash Trump over I agree with. Id assume Trump's relationship with Vince means he'll be mentioned about 7 times durring the segment unless its real short

So, you dislike him because he has sense enough to not be a fan of the world class con man holding the highest office in America. Got it.

Droford 03-31-2019 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5237777)
I hate John Olver but most of the stuff he manages to not bash Trump over I agree with. Id assume Trump's relationship with Vince means he'll be mentioned about 7 times durring the segment unless its real short

trump count: zero? shocking

rehashed a bunch of wrestler deaths though

"the character vince is an asshole, the real vince is an asshole"

Droford 04-01-2019 12:04 AM

lol they showed Punks face when he shit himself on smackdown

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-01-2019 12:05 AM

Does he do another "wrestling is gay" joke?

Droford 04-01-2019 12:09 AM

lol a bit about Roman Reigns at the end

"how can it (Roman Reigns hair) always be wet?You look like a pedophile out for a jog. BOO!"

Droford 04-01-2019 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5237820)
Does he do another "wrestling is gay" joke?

He actually said hes a fan of wrestling, seems to at least know some things

Droford 04-01-2019 12:14 AM

Hes encouraging fans to chant at Mania for Vince to pay for wrestlers medical expenses and retirement sccounts.

slik 04-01-2019 01:47 AM

9/10 chance wrestling fans will only focus on the lame Roman Reigns joke and overlook the entire 20 minute excellent piece and it's very valid point about the long-term health of wrestlers. re: John Oliver.

Emperor Smeat 04-01-2019 01:56 AM

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