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Blade isn’t very good and shouldn’t be anywhere near Butcher.

Just push Butcher and Nick Comoroto as the tag team.

Keep The Bunny and make her the manager of Swerve Strickland and Trent Beretta.

Tony Khan has signed Chris Jericho through 2025 and has made him a producer, creative advisor and mentor to young talent. :lol:

4 title matches tonight. Tony REALLY doesn't want to lose to NXT again. Never forget NXT won the last head to head matchup and Tony has spent about $100 million of his daddy's money since :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Feel like all the title matches they constantly do waters down the meaning of the titles. They're becoming "just another match". And having a ton of title matches means you don't really have much time for anyone other than champs and whoever they are feuding with. How do you build people with that?

Wouldn't be surprised if some day TK has created enough titles that everyone in the company has gold. They'll probably act like it's some kind of in joke and/or long term storytelling.

Smart move for Jericho to sign for another 3+ years. He's getting up there. Probably keen to sit back and collect the fat stacks at home in a couple years when the company tanks and their library gets sold to Trips. Once that time is up, he will be well rested and ready to go do a retirement match in WWE at Mania 43 or 44.

For like a year the anti-AEW talked like Moxley and Jericho were gonna abandon the sinking ship and come crawling back to WWE.

Now they've both re-upped and the goalposts have moved to "lol AEW had to find a way to keep Moxley and Jericho because they didn't make any new stars"

Sad.

Anybody who believed that never listened to a single thing Mox or Jericho said the last 4 years. They are in perpetual FEDBAD mode.

Game. Changer.

WWE used Raw to lead into NXT. Let’s not pretend that both want to come out of this looking good. I dare say WWE’s tactic might be better though. Wasn’t there 3 title matches on last week’s Rampage, and 4 on Dynamite? At this point it’s not a way to load up the show, it’s BAU.

Tony Khan can’t help but put people in spots they shouldn’t be in.

Per the Observer, Ace Steel has officially been released.

Commentary specifically namedropped The Elite as the team that vacated the Trios titles, and CM Punk was briefly shown on an ROH champions montage before the title match. This is the first time either party has been directly said or shown onscreen since the incident so it would seen things might be just about wrapped up.

I'm guessing there's a good chance The Elite are back by Full Gear. I still don't think Punk will return, but he's hurt for months anyway so he'll likely remain on the books through his injury rehab and then either cooler heads will prevail or he'll get packaged out.

If Punk comes back he should beat up and bloody Tony Khan and start a storyline of trying to take over the company. Then get jobbed out to Hangman at the end of it.

^^^^This, but job him to Fuego del Sol.

CM Punk revealed as the Higher Power of The Elite.

“It’s me Tony! It’s me Tony! It was me all along Tony!”

I’m glad Ace Steel got the fuck out.

It has to be at least somewhat believable. There is 0 chance Punk could beat up somebody THAT high on Cocaine.

How is it not going to be the same shit? The guy is still trading in his Shield over. His AEW peak was his debut.

y'all are still the cutest couple at tpww :heart:

One must wonder if Tony Khan is just going to have Ace Steele take the fall for the brawl and call the rest a wash.

That Ace Steele threw the chair and everything afterwards was reactionary...

AKA, I cannot make money off of Ace but I can make money off all the rest so... he did it!

That's a BIG assumption that Tiny can make money off of anybody other than Shad Khan :lol:

I don’t think Punk would go for it being pinned on his buddy. Steel probably got paid out and was willing to go.

If I recall, weren't there multiple reports that said if Ace goes that Punk was gonna walk with him?

I'd buy this lol

Given the reports, and assuming they are the full story (which we shouldn't tbf seeing as they were likely leaked by the opposition,) Ace is objectively the instigator. He, again just using the reports we have, escalated it from taunting to physicality. Now, what Punk is accused of saying could be called menacing or terroristic threatening but Ace exacerbated the situation.

With that said, to be clear, the reports are likely heavily skewed to favor one party over the other. But given what the public knows from a PR perspective if you were looking to clean up the mess in a way that would calm the proverbial storm crucifying Steele would probably do it.

I don’t wanna sound like one of them snowflakes but if Ace Steel tried to eat a dude, firing him makes sense.

It's possible this is still the case, but Punk was gonna be on the shelf anyway. Makes little sense for him to quit until he's done with his rehab as AEW gives benefits to most of their full-time contracted talent.

He had a torn tricep which generally carries around a 6-9 month rehab from surgery. Figure he got surgery in September so that's him out until anywhere from March through June or so. I'd assume he officially remains with the company that whole time.

There was no way Ace wasn't getting axed.

Yeah this definitely makes sense. He will stay through the rehab for the benefits for sure, and AEW isn't going to fire him over that time because of the bad PR of cutting a dude off his benefits while hes rehabbing an injury he got working for them.

Punk is a notoriously stubborn guy, so I'd assume his mind is already made up to leave once he's healed. But you never know. March-June is still a long ways out. The hopeless optimist in me would really like to think that at some point, cooler heads will prevail and everyone can sit down with a mediator, talk things out like adults, and realize that there's actually a very easy path for everyone to make some money if they're willing to do business.

Regardless of your thoughts on either guy, there is easy money to be made in Omega vs. Punk. But I doubt it'll ever come to fruition.

I could book a punk omega angle by accident at this point

I don't think they can do Punk v Omega. Punk has proven to be unstable/uncontrollable at this point. You can't trust him to do the job here. If I was trying to book that, I would be worried Punk would go into business for himself and try to work super stiff and no sell everything to make Kenny look bad because his overinflated ego demands it of him.

Destor isn't wrong saying he could easily book it. Anyone could really. It's just an issue of do you trust the guys to stick to the plan? I don't.

I don't trust Kenny to work that either. I think he would try to showboat the whole time and expose Punk for the over-the-hill botch fest that he is at this point.

Not the same scale since it was a midcard feud but I remember WWE was hesitant on if they could actually turn Edge vs. Matt into an angle because they obviously had very real heat. But everyone sat down and realized it was an easy way to get heat and for everyone to make money.

Edge even admitted that Matt would've had as good an excuse as anyone to take liberties but he didn't, they worked snug but safe and everyone got to be involved in what was, at the time, probably the hottest angle in the company.

Shame not everyone can handle that mindset.

Yeah, thats the thing. Edge and Matt let cooler heads prevail for the good of all parties. Punk has shown time and again that you can not expect that from him. It's either his way or fuck you.

I would pay good money to watch punk try and go into business for himself :lol:

Not gonna disagree there lol

At this point if punk tried to shoot he’d just tear another muscle.

Punk, the loose cannon — stiffing people the world over. Definitely fits his rep in wrestling. Lol, wtf?

Which one?

I just can’t stand that overindulgent, selfish, egotistical, delicate politician constantly going into business for himself. And I don’t like CM Punk either.

The problem with a CM Punk vs. Kenny Omega feud is that Punk lacks credibility outside wrestling and Omega lacks it inside.

People will always stop to watch a fight. Even if the two guys cant fight. You walk down the street and see 2 hobos fighting over week old bread you're going to stop and watch. Put it behind a pay wall and we've got Bum Fights LLC.

And with this you have the added bonus of people wanting to their guy win AND wanting to the other get his face smashed in. Their Schrodinger's Worker. Baby and Heel at the same time.

Sissy Boy Slapfight x Bum Fights presents…

I think the whole Matt Hardy, Edge, and Lita was a work. It was a work to get Edge over, and it worked.

I don’t think Punk comes back because he’s too self centered to take any blame for everything that happened. And he’s not going to want to do business with the Bucks or Omega.

Nah, because they buried the shit out of Matt Hardy. And rightfully so in retrospect.

I really try imagine what it would be like being a wrestler working for AEW. The money Tony Khan throws around is insane. It’s like winning the lottery. But I would feel like I would be compromising so much creativity and integrity. It’s the worst thing for wrestling overall.

If you didn’t give a shit about other people, I guess it’s a no-brainer to want to be there. But I would like to think I’m someone that would tell Tony to shove the money. Donate it to charity or something.

Apparently Athena had her Perry Saturn moment with her Mike Bell in AEW.

This actually helps my theory.

Just watched. Definitely some stiff shots, but she didn't drop her on her head or break anything on her face. Still looked relatively safe outside of the suplex to the outside, though i'd guess that was planned given the nature of the move.

My reaction wasn't " oh my god, she should be suspended."

It was "omg give me more of this Athena, please"

No one would agree to being emasculated so bad, faking so much turmoil with their personal life, etc.

The suplex to the outside and the dropkick into the rail looked like there was 0 control. Not a fan.

Yeah anyone moaning about this match would be clenching their asshole watching STARDOM.

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Source is Meltzer, so I don't buy it.

She did come in pretty hot off that dropkick, but they know their body's limitations and Threat seems to be fine, so I'm assuming it looked a lot worse than it felt.

lol apparently the hold up is that Punk wants to make sure theres not a non compete clause because he wants to go back to WWE.

LMFAO

Triple H and Punk most definitely don't like each other and would probably still butt heads creatively, so I'm sure that would go well.

If both sides have motivation to "stick it" to AEW I could maybe see a one-off Mania match or something but I can't imagine that relationship wouldn't deteriorate quickly if he were in the locker room full time.

Punk's been on record that his surgery and recovery from his foot injury earlier this year was brutal and the most miserable physical experience of his life. Kinda wonder if immediately getting a major injury in his first match back would be a point where he says "fuck it" as far as in-ring competition is concerned. Maybe he's happy with his final match being winning a world title in Chicago.

If he's content never wrestling again, it wouldn't be a bad idea to just take a Legends deal and get free money from the HOF induction, merch, and video game royalties that would result.

I wonder if he's aware that despite all his bitching his best run was in the company that "held him back"

Didn't they turn him down the last time?

The story was that FOX wanted Punk on their WWE Backstage show. Punk didn't want to actually work for WWE and, notably, WWE didn't want to work with Punk again either. So it was strictly a FOX deal with Punk and Punk had no involvement at all with anyone from WWE that wasn't on that show.

Vince being gone would normally change things but Punk and Hunter didn't have a good relationship either by all accounts.

Hope Hunter brings Punk in for a surprise WM match and then tells him day of the show he's jobbing to an also returning Kevin Nash.

WWE should never give Punk a single cent. For anything. He deserves no legends contract, no new royalties, no new merch money. Hiring him just to spite AEW would be the dumbest decision anyone in WWE has made in YEARS in terms of the business side of things.

Hell, considering just how much drama and BS has surrounded Punk pretty much everywhere he goes, I think WWE should snub his ass for the HoF too just to watch him be petty and make even more of a fool out of himself.

Ok I take it back this scenario is acceptable.

Actually, they should tell him he's going over Nash only for HHH to run out in a refs shirt and pull off a new screw job on him. Do it in Chicago too.

Okay, so that promotion is garbage.

Likewise.

This is true. He got plenty of opportunities there. He could have been treated far worse. He was enamoured with his own ideas, and not all of them were good ones.

Yeah, AEW fucked up the early negotiations (probably on purpose) and Punk wanted to go to WWE to stick it back to them. Vince knows how much he gave Punk last time and how little he appreciated it. They didn’t need him and he doesn’t move the needle that much. If you’re going to bring in CM Punk it’s to be a main eventer. Which main eventer would you bump? It doesn’t make sense.

That being said, I hope WWE does bring him back now and shows AEW how it’s done. I hope the truth about AEW and The Elite comes out. I’d love to see the venom fly. I think Punk having a run as a salty veteran in NXT could be a lot of fun.

AEW are also backing away from Thunder Rosa. They have their cult and if they are going to stick to serving them Kool-Aid, they deserve what they get. There is no interest in making the product better or treating people correctly. It’s about stroking certain egos. Fuck AEW and I personally hope Punk takes them for all they’re worth. I just hope a bunch of other talented people can get out if they want too.

You are leaving out the part where Fox would pay his salary as long as he was exclusive to Smackdown, and WWE still said no thanks.

Belts aren’t everything, but WWE made him a World Champion 5 times. He was put in that spot since 2008. It’d be like Sheamus complaining he never received a push there. How do you tell your active roster that they are going to get less TV time now that you’re bringing that guy back?

lmao this would be tremendous

Only way WWE would sign Punk would be to make him do the J.O.B. to real wrestling stars like Otis and The Gold Standard Shelton Benjamin.

I could see him being part of Shelton and R-Truth’s thing, honestly. Salty Veterans Union.

Punk is pretty talented. He can talk, he can make people care, his matches are put together wisely (minus stupid flippy clotheslines). He wouldn’t be bad for content. I’d mark out for him coming through the crowd and giving Bron Breakker a GTS. And I’m not the biggest Punk fan. He can coach and commentate too. He’s a much better value add than any of The Elite, who suck all-round.

Lol, Dave’s trying to put himself front and center in the Brawl Out story. He’s also saying Ace Steel’s wife was not spoken to as part of the investigation, so that tells you all you need to know about how bullshit all that is.

Every Punk promo in WWE would be the same old shit, except DUBBAD instead of FEDBAD.

What if Punk came out and hugged Triple H and announced he learnt from his reckless youth. He is here to help secure a safe and viable future for WWE and its Superstars. :eek:

Mr. Brooks. That isn’t taken, is it?

Would love to see Punk involved in Austin Theory and Bron Breakker’s business in NXT. Throw Paul Heyman into the mix. Pay him even more money and have him be the guy guiding the career of Theory in order to protect Reigns from him and vice versa. That is until Punk comes along.

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I’m not sure Tony Khan has ever earned a position on merit in his life. He’s had bought positions of authority and he seems to fall short in every single one.

lol holy shit.

Virgil had a better turn out than that.

Man how conflicted would that leave you? :p

If you think Triple H is going hire CM Punk after all he's said about WWE, Triple H and his family, I think you have the wrong impression of Triple H.

There's no money in punk. The audience who would get into has already seen the big return angle with hin

Punk is a forever malcontent and I have a very tough time seeing him go back to WWE where his leash to run his mouth because he’s mad is going to be much much shorter. He’s also not going to be the guy there like was supposed to be in AEW. In no way if he’s getting elevated over Roman. No chance.

Exactly. There is no reason to bring him back. He's never getting a return pop like the one he got for the debut at Rampage. Never. Doesn't matter what city he would have a future debut in.

There is an aura of his return for AEW that I never want to go away. That's the last "debut" as a CM Punk fan that I want.

I would have the exact same problem with it.

Why can't he get through a promo without having to talk about his former employer?

If I want to hear about AEW ill watch AEW, keep it off WWE.

He still got absolutely embarrassed in real fights, he does not have the credibility for it to be believable that he can win fights.

He has also shown he will botch and get injured.

He is still an absolute bitter turd of a person.

I think there is money in Punk. He’s not going to massively spike anything outside an initial appearance, and that has always been the case, but there are things left for him to do. The quality of things he is involved with can help others get better too.

Compare that to The Elite, who aren’t money and don’t help out anyone. You’re going to get more out of talent CM Punk grooms. That being said, I want Punk out of AEW because it’s a waste.

Punk did always strike me as a groomer

;)

I left that there on purpose. I hope you enjoyed.

And they were all paid too.

Punk has literally never made anybody better. His genius advice to Kevin Owens was don't wear a t-shirt. Then Owens went and Main Evented Wrestlemania with Steve Austin, with both guys wearing T-Shirts... GOOD CALL PHIL!