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Drakul 11-11-2011 05:05 AM

I remember her bouncing off stuff and doing running butt bounces. So I think she was El Fuerte like but I think she had some standing grapples do. Didn't she have a northern lights suplex or something?

If Zangief isn't her partner, it might be El Furte.

Khuntry 11-11-2011 03:22 PM

Needs moar grapplers.

Funky Fly 11-11-2011 06:26 PM

Needs moar T. HAWK :mad:

Drakul 11-12-2011 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khuntry (Post 3677952)
Needs moar grapplers.

I'm guessing, by the use of "moar", you think we have too many of them?

About half the cast (18/39) of SSFIVAE had projectiles and the game only had 4 or so characters you could consider grapplers. No one batted an eyelid.

Of the confimed characters for SFxT, only 5 of the 28 revealed are grapplers while 9 of the 14 SF characters revealed have projectiles. Over half the SF cast have projectiles in this game but people still want Sakura, Juri, Akuma and Rose. I can't talk for Tekken because I don't know it well enough to know who does and doesn't have projectiles.

Every time someone with a grapple move is revealed or teased someone (usually on Eventhubs) always says the game has too many grapplers.

By the time everyone is revealed, I think grapplers will still be a very small number and projectiles will make up most of the cast or, at least, most of the SF cast.

The game doesn't have too many grapplers. They are just finally giving people who prefer playing that way a choice for once.

Kalyx triaD 11-12-2011 03:48 AM

There's a good chance you should have verified his meaning before posting that.

Drakul 11-12-2011 03:51 AM

It wasn't really directed right at Khuntry. Just at the whole idea in general that the game has too many grapplers. Something that seems to be a popular opinion, like I said.

Kalyx triaD 11-12-2011 03:56 AM

Fuck critics. Grab away.

Khuntry 11-12-2011 10:59 AM

Calm down. Could care less if they added ten moar grapplers. Actually pulling for Alex in this game ( very unlikely tho).

Drakul 11-12-2011 12:25 PM

As I said, I wasn't aiming anything at you.

You gave me an excuse to talk about a subject and I took it. No ill feeling towards you.

I can see Alex being one of the last revealed and being paired with Someone like Necro or some other random SFIII guy.

Funky Fly 11-12-2011 02:40 PM

Necro is a waste with Dhalsim there. There are differences and what not, but it's no different to me than throwing Remy in there with Guile already on the roster. Don't want to many Ken/Ryu type situations going now. Def want T. Hawk in there. Imagine him combined with someone quick and agile.

Khuntry 11-13-2011 02:43 AM

Necro's far more interesting than Dhalsim. Elena would be amazing in this game.

Drakul 11-13-2011 05:22 AM

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...pictwitter.jpg

Looks like it's just an alt for Kuma or something, meaning no Mika. They wouldn't give Kuma her outfit if she made it into the game.
That seems a bit harsh as far as "trolling" goes from a guy like Ono.

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Khuntry 11-13-2011 09:21 AM

Well thats Capcom for ya. They're real good at that shit. She's probably still in tho.

Drakul 11-16-2011 01:32 AM

Anyone expecting an announcement about characters anytime soon, you'll be waiting a while yet.
Ono said on his Twitter that we'll have to wait until the Asia Games Show. I looked it up and it runs from the 23rd to the 26th of December.

Also, someone asked about making Juli and Juni DLC for SFxT and Ono said it's a good idea and did that ;D smilie. I've noticed he usually does that when someone is onto something. Otherwise he usually says something like "I can't find their phone number" or "Battle Director would say no" and do a ;( smilie.

Kalyx triaD 11-16-2011 11:32 AM

The Killer Doll girls? You'd think people would object to 'Cammy shotos', then again guess not. I'm cool with it.

Kalyx triaD 11-17-2011 01:11 AM

Color Edit is BACK!:

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...lorssfxt01.jpg

And alt attire is in, (characters cosplay the other company):

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt01.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt02.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt03.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt04.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt05.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt14.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt13.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt12.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt11.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt10.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt09.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt08.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt07.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._sfxtalt06.jpg

Captain of Fun 11-17-2011 01:22 AM

Fucking Brilliant.

Drakul 11-17-2011 01:41 AM

Awesome. Screw Zangiefs regular outfit. I'm going to wear the bear skin everytime.

Anyone know who the SF guys are dressed as? I can figure out who the Tekken guys are dressed as pretty easily.

Drakul 11-17-2011 01:42 AM

Someone should cosplay as one of these characters cosplaying as whoever they're cosplaying.

Kalyx triaD 11-17-2011 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakul (Post 3681820)
Awesome. Screw Zangiefs regular outfit. I'm going to wear the bear skin everytime.

Anyone know who the SF guys are dressed as? I can figure out who the Tekken guys are dressed as pretty easily.

Ryu - Ogre (Tekken 3 boss)
Ken - Lars (Tekken 6 hero, Kazuya's brother)
Guile - Jack 6
Abel - Armor King (former King 'shoto')
Chun Li - Panda (Kuma model swap)
Cammy - King
Rufus - Angel (Tekken 2 Kazuya/Devil model swap)
Rolento - Raven
Ibuki - Yoshi- or Kunimitsu?
Hugo/Poison - Nothing from Tekken...
Sagat - Sergei Dragonuv
Dhalsim - Jinpachi (Heihachi's father)

Drakul 11-17-2011 01:54 AM

Cool.

I was thinking maybe these outfits were ways to give a nod to characters that wont make it in but I just looked at Eventhubs and they say Capcom is calling these "Swap Costumes" rather than "Alts".
We have Bob as Ryu and Julia as Chun-Li and a few others dressed as characters in the already in game.

Any chance that these could be hinting at unrevealed characters rather than characters that aren't in?

Edit: Panda wouldn't be a seperate character but I bet you could change the colour around Kumas eyes independantly of the rest of his face to make your own Panda skin.

Kalyx triaD 11-17-2011 11:35 AM

Yeah betting Kuma can be made into Panda with the edit.

I did think the alts heavily hinted at unrevealed characters but Angel and Panda threw me off - no way they'd include model swap characters (unless they are in via edit). Lars would be so fucking hype, though.

Drakul 11-22-2011 01:06 PM

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...oloredit02.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...oloredit03.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...oloredit04.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...oloredit01.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eventhubs
What is most of interest though is a screenshot showing grayed-out gems, forwarding the thought that a few of the gems are one-time use only and can no longer be activated once its triggered effect is complete.


Drakul 11-25-2011 12:16 PM

New Gem info from the SFxT blog.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eventhubs
•The blog says that there is a certain category of Boost Gems called "Ferocious Attack Gems", and it lists five of them.

•All five of the listed Boost Gems have the same boost (50% meter gain increase) and same active time (15 seconds).

•The five gems' activation conditions are as follows; strike with three special moves, land a Launch attack, have your partner perform a Launch attack, do a reversal, or guard four attacks.

•You cannot equip more than 2 of the same gem.

•If you want to set three of the Boost Gems, they must have different activation conditions.

•To make the effort of activating gems "sweet to the mind" they made the activation conditions harsh.

•They are considering removing gem activation stacking and making it so that you can only activate gems one at a time.


Kalyx triaD 11-25-2011 01:23 PM

An option to play without this otherwise interesting system would be very nice.

Drakul 11-29-2011 03:58 AM

More about that last Gem update.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capcom
Hey everyone! Today I was hoping to review all of the information about SFXTK that’s available. However, I’m thinking that we’ll have new information for everyone by the end of the year. So before we hit you with the new stuff, there’s a lot of other things I want you to know, so let’s review everything up until now!

Gems are definitely something I want everyone to get a good understanding of.

This has already been shown off on the official site, but I’d like to write about the “Onslaught Gem”.

The Onslaught Gem allows you to absorb 50% more meter for your Cross Gauge.

http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unit...72b8cfe2cc.jpg
↑Normally, Ryu’s close standing Heavy Punch gives you this much meter.

http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unit...84ddc3578e.jpg
↑One Onslaught Gem activated! You acquire more gauge than normal.

http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unit...72fa340de1.jpg
↑Gems can be set as long as you have the slots, so if you equip three Onslaught Gems, one close standing Heavy Punch gives you this much gauge! Just imagine all the awesome things you can do!

That’s about all for the Onslaught Gem.

Oh, and to activate the effects of the Boost Gem? Yup, they require that you meet certain conditions first. Check out this example!

Quote:

Onslaught Gem type example

Activation: Land 3 Special Moves
Effect: Cross Gauge acquisition rate: +50%
Duration: 15 seconds

Activation: Land 1 Launcher
Effect: Cross Gauge acquisition rate: +50%
Duration: 15 seconds

Activation: Your partner lands a Launcher
Effect: Cross Gauge acquisition rate: +50%
Duration: 15 seconds

Activation: Perform a Reversal once
Effect: Cross Gauge acquisition rate: +50%
Duration: 15 seconds

Activation: Get blocked 4 times
Effect: Cross Gauge acquisition rate: +50%
Duration: 15 seconds
Hm, all Boost Gems have various effects and duration times. I’m sure there are some people there are thinking “I’ll equip three of the Gems with the ‘Get blocked 4 times’ condition! If my opponent turtles then I’ll get a ton of meter!”, and that’s great. There’s a lot of great ideas you can come up with! But wait!

With the current Gem system, you cannot equip two of the exact same Gem at the same time!

In other words, if you want to equip 3 Onslaught Gems, then you’ll have to equip 3 of them that have different activation conditions!

Yeah, that’s rough, huh? This Gem system is basically set up so if you want to get a great benefit, the conditions become harsher and harsher.

While you’re not used to the system, maybe it’s better to just equip a bunch of Gems that activate one by one.


Cool King 11-30-2011 05:07 PM

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Drakul 12-01-2011 02:41 AM

Menu screens:

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...sfxtmenu04.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...sfxtmenu01.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...sfxtmenu02.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...sfxtmenu03.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...sfxtmenu05.jpg
Shopping carts on the colours. In game shop to buy colours and other things?
Edit: Just notice the word "STORE" in the first screenshot of the main menu. So, think we'll have to buy characters, stages etc? Will costumes be ingame or DLC?

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...sfxtmenu06.jpg

#BROKEN Hasney 12-01-2011 06:21 AM

It's Capcom, probably costumes and maybe characters.

Would laugh and not be shocked if colours are microtransaction funded rather than in game money.

#BROKEN Hasney 12-01-2011 06:35 AM

Probably gonna get this on PC now that's been officially confirmed. I'll get it stupidly cheap that way. "Future disc-based expansion ruled out." by Ono sold it.

Still kinda wish it was just SF tag battle rather than having those dull fucks from Tekken in it though.

Kalyx triaD 12-01-2011 06:48 AM

Perhaps pick Capcom roster only? Not as good as a full Capcom roster but pretending is fun.

Drakul 12-01-2011 09:20 AM

I've always thought it would be kind of cool if you could deactivate certain characters so you never fought them in Arcade Mode.

So you could deactivate the Tekken guys and only fight the SF guys or, if you wanted to implement it for online, perhaps have the game rule out matches with people who have, for example, Ryu as their most used character.
It would cut down on fighting the same characters over and over again.

Kalyx triaD 12-01-2011 02:36 PM

That's life, dude. Better to deal with it, repetitive as it is.

Drakul 12-09-2011 05:08 AM

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Drakul 12-09-2011 12:51 PM

Gem screenshots:

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen17.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen13.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen16.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen15.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen14.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen11.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen10.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen09.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen08.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen07.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen06.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen05.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen04.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen03.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen02.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...emscreen01.jpg

Kalyx triaD 12-09-2011 04:46 PM

This was really a perfectly fine game before the Gem business but I would still like to try it.

Drakul 12-10-2011 02:40 AM

It would have been fun without the gems but everyone would complain it's just SF4 with Tekken characters. Even with the inclusion of gems, pandora and tag teams, some people still complain that its just SF4 with Tekken characters.

I'm confident Capcom know what they are doing and it'll still be fun with gems and Pandora. They wont screw up a game people have wanted since the 90's.

When I say "they wont screw up", I mean to a normal players standards, like you and I, not the standards of the uppity fanbase that have done nothing but bitch about every new thing and say they wont buy the game when they obviously will.
If it was up to them, we'd see the exact same game brought out each time with no new mechanics or modes.

As for playing without gems, couldn't you select gems that have conditions you know you wouldn't meet? Like playing as Chun-Li and picking a gem that requires you to perform 5 grapples.
I'm sure Ono or someone said there was ways to not play with gems. I can't quite remember.

Calling it now, every match I am winning online will end in a rage quit when my Zangief speeds up or gains more strength. If the match ends, I'm betting I get negative feedback for cheating or being too aggressive. It still amuses me that people accused me of over aggressiveness in a fighting game in which I play as a wrestler.

Gems will be awesome for the people online that beat me with their gems and they'll be "for skill-less scrubs like you!" when I beat them using my gems.

I am looking forward to seeing the effect each gem has on each character and what other gems the game will have, if any.
I'm hoping it adds a bit of variety online. Fighting a Ryu with added strength, then a Ryu with added speed. It may not be a different character but it'll add some variation.
Unless someone figures out the "best" combo of gems to use and then everyone uses them. I'm trying to end this post on a positive note but I can't.

Kalyx triaD 12-10-2011 04:31 AM

I know you're happy with so many grapplers in the game. I don't have as many legacy characters but I so want this game. So much fun looking at it.

Blitz 12-10-2011 05:49 AM

I really hope they take the Pandora system out. The Gem system and tag system are more than enough.

Kalyx triaD 12-10-2011 05:59 AM

It's optional, easy enough not to do it. I just wish it was more bang for my buck. Maybe changes will come.


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