His contract is AEW exclusive and their international partners. So other than maybe a surprise run in garbage time wrestling is mostly over for him. And good for him. Save what’s left of your body and make all the money you Can to give your kid a great life.

Pfffft. He’ll still do the garbage thing in AEW.

I am loving even Damian admitting signing long term with AEW means a wrestling career is "mostly over" :rofl:

Soccer Fans have no Chill :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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If I’m WWE, I’m stoked Tony Khan is blowing his money on Jon Moxley. What am I going to do with him? He hasn’t been good since 2016. You can cash in on The Shield thing a little bit, but do you want to be forced into the position of booking him strong to convince talents you actually want to jump ship?

Let him stay in AEW doing the garbage shit you can make fun of. Let him impart “wisdom” on a bunch of green guys. I’d maybe sign his wife to do Talking Smack since she’s great in that role and he might go inside knowing she’s in the other company with bigger stars. It’s brutal, but hey — make the other guys implode.

"We're going to need a new belt"

It’s the opening match of Double or Nothing 5.

Man, we’ve already had 4 DONs. And what do they really have to show for it? Cody vs. Dustin?

This idiot really bragging to Canadians about how much money his daddy gives him :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

There's really only 5 folks in AEW I would be interested in signing, if I were Trips.

I am talking about Ricky Starks, Powerhouse Hobbs, Wardlow, MJF, and maybe Thunder Rosa as a trainer. Perhaps even Abaddon for a one off with Bray Wyatt.

Your list reads very similarly to mine. I’d add Jade Cargill though. I’m iffy on Britt Baker because of her attitude. I haven’t seen enough of Jamie Hayter. Hit them in the women. They’ll need to present a women’s division, so if you take anyone worth anything close to a shit, they’re up the river on that one.

But some of these guys and girls are better salvos going off in AEW’s own ship. MJF and Jade Cargill are the two they sort of get right. They’re the ones I would poach. Decide everyone else when their contracts come up and let them be miserable there in the meantime.

Lower on the card, I’d consider Brian Pillman, Jr., Brock Anderson and Griff Garrison too. Private Party too. But that’s NXT level stuff.

Aside from MJF I would not sign any AEW original. Not because they are bad, but I don't think you can unteach the bad habits they have learned working for Tiny.

Some of them might want out bad enough that they’re willing to learn.

I'd take Wardlow for sure.

They will take Wardlow for sure. He will be a bigger deal in one night than he ever has in been in AEW.

....did the really name Woods/Nese team "Varsity Athletes"? Fuck that's terrible. Most generic team name ever.

Renee Paquette is All Elite

It’s probably just a passive aggressive jab at the Varsity Blonds to make them feel awful for still being employed there.

Goddamnit! You beat me to it

“Sure, I’ll sign on for 5 years…if you pay my wife $800k a year to stand around with a microphone.”

What AEW needed was definitely more announcers.

Well that's exactly what it is storyline wise. But it's still absolutely terrible.

Over/under on Renee blading during interviews?

She's an asset. People like her and she knows how to get an angle across

Lets be real, she left WWE thinking she was going to get a Fox Sports job, but they did not jump at the chance to sign a mid 30's personality who anchored a show that got 100,000 viewers. Instead she takes a step back to work for a lesser wrestling company.

At least good for her getting some of Shad's Money too.

An 11pm show talking about wrestling. Erin Andrews wouldn't have done any better. js

Charissa Thompson on the other hand...... :drool:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just saw it. He had the right to be frustrated with the interview. I've been as well with covering AEW of late which I talk about all the time so can't disagree. I'll talk more later. Not enough space here. <a href="https://t.co/EZwVub7Ypr">https://t.co/EZwVub7Ypr</a></p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1580309120283860993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

trouble in paradise?

Who are they talking about?

Not enough forced praise for AEW these days.

My understanding is TK did an interview with some guy who asked him a bunch of shit about Punk and The Elite that he knew TK wouldn't answer and then started whining when TK didn't answer lol. Meltzer all in his feels about it because he wants to know whats gonna happen to his buddies in The Elite because damnit, it's his right to know!

Turns out it was Ariel Helwani. Note to self; when you’ve no idea what’s going on and can’t interpret Twitter, go to YouTube. Someone is bound to be talking about it.

Haha, I was just coming back to report that it was Ariel myself. I also learned that from youtube.

Helwani would be well within his rights to complain if his WWE interviews weren't PR puff pieces.

Seriously though, it seems like Ariel really lowered the bar for himself here. He's a legit, respectable journalist and he's coming off as a bitter cry baby. Saying anyone who thinks AEW is better than WWE is a liar, things like that. He knew TK wasn't going to answer those questions, and if he didn't know then he's about the only person who even remotely pays attention to wrestling who didn't. As much as I think TK sucks, Ariel comes off looking like a little bitch here in comparison.

Yeah. But there it is. He's a straight up Vincel. He was trying to make TK look bad by baiting him and ended up getting so butthurt at the results that he's now making himself look pathetic with his kneejerk knocks at AEW.

Here we are boys and tranny boys. The day after Orange won the big AEW Mid-Atlantic Championship! YES! Finally after years and years Orange is now an AEW Champion! And of the prestigious Mid-Atlantic region! Way to go Orange!

If there was any illusion before that he was unbiased in terms of WWE/AEW then said illusion has been thoroughly dispelled.

Fuck OC I hope PAC murders him the way Dexter Loonies is gonna murder The Miz!

over-saturating the market

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW flashed graphics during Dynamite last night announcing their return to Garland, TX (Curtis Culwell Center) on December 14th and San Antonio, TX (AT&amp;T Center) on December 21st. <br><br>The week before, on December 7th, they will be in Cedar Park, TX (presale for that starts today).</p>&mdash; WrestleTix (@WrestleTix) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleTix/status/1580551414715408384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

those spots are all HOURS away from each other so i dunno. running chicago and milwaukee, for instance, is way closer than running those cities and will draw different crowds. now if they run chicago in december somehow after running here for thanksgiving...

when was the last time they were in TX?

The Return of Curtis - brought to you by AEW

December I think.

AEW’s lack of transparency and backstage antics are a legitimate line of inquiry. I don’t really care if journalists are unbiased or not, but their reporting should try to be informative. That’s where Meltzer falls down. He distorts information to make AEW look good and WWE look bad.

Helwani pulling some real Chris Jericho shit with that line about people liking AEW more being liars though. They could just be stupid.

Honestly, they should have Billy Gunn challenge for the world title. Maybe just a one off match. Or they could actually give him the ROH belt. There’s absolutely no reason he shouldn’t get a title at this point tbh.

Wow. Adam Cole might be done. Apparently the labrum injury he was nursing when he last wrestled at Forbidden Door isn't what's keeping him out. He got a severe concussion during that match and has yet to recover from it and they don't know when or if he will recover at all.

there's a britt baker/christian joke in there, but i'll leave it to the master.

Good thing Tiny was smart enough to only gave him a 7 year contract, now he will only have to keep paying Cole until 2028 BAY-BAY!

I do not wish ill for Adam Cole at all, but I don't care for him as a pro wrestler. I'll just say that. He can have great matches yes but I just don't care for him.

New group debuted at RAMPAGE tapings tonight...

Good! AEW needed more groups and more rasslers!

Game changers. This is the move that will catapult AEW past WWE in the ratings!

jfc

I hope Tiny is mentally prepared for her to talk bad about him and AEW once she gets released :rofl:

Tony Khan cannot help himself. At this point, how are even the most shameless defenders of this company not eye-rolling at this?

I don't think we really have any left :lol:

I enjoy watching AEW more often than not. But that doesn't change the fact that Khan makes some unnecessarily head scratching decisions, and that signing would certainly be one of them.

I assume that group is another one earmarked for ROH but it's taken so long for a TV deal to develop there, it just means AEW is even more cluttered. Dumb.

At this point I don't think RoH is happening. It will just be used for probably quarterly PPVs that will be so AEW centric that the RoH branding will become meaningless.

Has there been any info at all on an ROH TV deal since TK bought the company?

Does #1-wwf-fan even post anymore? I haven’t noticed xrod destroying him lately, so that would correlate to it no longer being trendy to defend the show blindly. BigCrippyZ ran off ages ago, but even he had to chill out.

I’m sure they still exist on the wider internet, but AEW does seem to be losing a lot of the goodwill people afforded it. And good riddance honestly.

No. AEW’s shows have been struggling enough as it is without adding more content for it to compete with.

He abandoned the AEW ship when his hero Phil did. Phil ending up being the giant douche failure I said he would be all along right from the start, proving me right and Fan wrong in perpetuity, you love to see it :rofl:

He hitched his wagon to the losing team pretty early. And guys like that need approval of the room to feign confidence. He’s always stuck his finger in the wind to see which way it’s blowing before he tries to start a dog-pile. Typical.

He got exposed worse than Dave exposed his AEW sources.

By the way, I’m not sure Punk isn’t going to take half this company in the divorce proceedings lol.

On what grounds? lol

He spazzed at a presser with the boss over rumors.

He told The Elite to come see him. They came with the head of legal and talent relations with them and Punk/Steele decided to start a fight on the spot.

I get you don't like The Elite, but with the little that is known, Punk isn't the one looking to win a legal situation here. He has no ground to stand on, none. I'm willing to bet the whole legal situation is revolving around TK trying to find out if he has to pay this man out or if Punk fucked up enough that TK can void the contract for cause and send Punk away with nothing.

We’ll see, lol.

I cant see how punk is the moral actor here. He's basically validated every critic he had in the WWF.

Dude if CM Punk tried to bring any kind of case to court against TK/AEW over this event, all they are going to have to do is play the tape of the press conference and put a couple of the witnesses on the stand to say Punk/Steele also started the physicality and a judge is going to throw that shit straight in the trash.

There is no confusion here. It is all either on tape or has multiple witnesses that are not favorable to Punks side. I would say there is a less than 0% chance of Punk walking away with "half the company" if it was even possible to have less than a 0% chance.

Also punks gripe about rumors to the dirtsheets being what set him off does him absolutely no favors because it's all hearsay and all it shows is that he will spaz out, become insubordinate and assault his bosses over rumors on the internet. He is lucky af he didn't get arrested; if a normal person here spazzed on their bosses and then bit them and threw chairs and shit they would immediately be terminated and arrested and would find it very hard to ever find decent employment ever again.

We will see.

lol

Maybe he'll take his half of the company and turn it into a new promotion with THE ROCK

Nah, the window has closed on that one.

The thing about Punk is he is a little bitch and everybody (but Fan) knows it.

He can’t fight. But he doesn’t seem to mind getting into them. Unless it’s on a reality show.

Loved seeing OC win the other night, great to see him rewarded for this consistent love from the crowd and as he does a fair bit of indy work he can defend it outside AEW.

I am curious though who the first non AEW guy to win it will be, it has to happen at some point to really make the belt serve its true purpose.

The Garcia (re?) heel turn caught me off guard and I don't mind it at all as I didn't want him in the BCC.

The MJF tweener turn thing is unnecesary in my mind, let him be a prick people cheer if they want to. He doesn't need to be teasing hand shakes and such while his promo on Dynamite did frame it well I just don't see the need.

MJF has a monster face run in him but I don't think nows the time, let him win the title and be scum doing all he can to keep the belt while the pack chases him.

its WWECW at this point. Either find it a TV deal or let it move on until such time as you do.

Man, you really like trying to sneak in shit-talk in threads where you hope I won’t see it because I haven’t posted there recently. I GOT BUZZED THOUGH. So now to embarrass you…

#CMXrod

Team CumDerp will never learn their lesson. The fantasy-world will not be shattered.

WWE at least "threw around the idea" of trying to bring in Billy Gunn for the DX reunion.

According to Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful, If WWE did actually reach out to AEW is not known, Before Tony Khan has mentioned its not working out with WWE:

"I've had a number of interactions with them," Khan told Wrestling Inc.'s Nick Hausman during the "All Out" post-show media scrum. "I've said a lot of nice stuff, and I don't regret saying nice stuff because I'm super honest about pro wrestling. And when I saw good stuff happening there, I'll be the first to say it. But, yeah, I'm just not feeling the same love. I don't wanna get into it but, you know, I just haven't felt the same reciprocation that I have for them."

"It had been speculated that an unnamed current AEW wrestler had received an unsolicited inquiry to join WWE, with Chris Jericho seemingly indicating that he was also contacted in regard to re-joining his old promotion. These reported uninvited inquiries caused people to wonder if this was the reason why Khan had felt unfairly treated by WWE."

TK off in cocaine wonderland if he thinks he's been nice to WWE lmao

Spend 4 years having your entire roster FEDBAD as much as possible, wonder why WWE doesn't want to work with you. Fucking idiot Tiny thinks they are just meanies!

He also picked up talent who left WWE in a huff, which once upon a time would have been seen as bad form. He should have left Jeff Hardy and Toni Storm alone, or consulted them about hiring them.

I don’t get the stuff with Chris Jericho’s contract allegedly being tampered with. He’s appeared on WWE television this year, along with Daniel Bryan and Big Show, for the John Cena thing. WWE would need to have open channels of communication with them to do that. If they’re allowed to approach these independent contractors about doing work with them in that context, I don’t see why it would be completely unreasonable for them to inquire about other contexts that talent can work under.

Someone obviously snitched to TK, but I think it’s more likely to be a no-mark like Swerve Strickland since it would make sense WWE would reach out to him about a Hit Row return.

“Shit! He saw it! BURY! BURY!!!”

Yeah every rumor about that I've seen about the snitch that actually dares to name names says Swerve is the one who went to TK crying about WWE contacting people. I wouldn't be surprised if they brought back Hit Row so fast just to fuck with Swerve for it.

I give it a few months before Swerve desperately wants to go back. They might not hold it against him, but pretty bad form on the guy’s part.

The instant TK sends him to Dark catering and quits pushing him in exchange for Mike and Maria Kanellis.

He’s had his token title run. It won’t be long.

Seriously. Look at Keith Lee. Where has he been since they dropped the titles a month ago?

We all know how Tiny feels about Keith's ethnicity, he is a racist bastard.

He’s in catering because TK needs another death to exploit.

Remember when tag team wrestling was supposed to matter in AEW? They wouldn’t just put the belts on makeshift tag teams that don’t mean anything long-term, right?

Ah yes — no Tony Khan on TV.

Fuck it, I’ll go through them all:

* Sports-like presentation went out with their first match. They were always going to be TNA-lite with their Casino Battle Royale shit. Straight from the mind of Vince Russo. You had Glacier in a match for a World Title shot. In 2019. This was a lie and this direction is a big part of what turned Cody Rhodes away in my opinion. And this philosophy is what is causing the problems in AEW now with The Elite.

* Wins and losses matter was a jab at WWE. That’s all. You have to make them matter. AEW can’t make meaning because Tony Khan is not a booker who understands how the things he does have an effect. He’s all about the what. The win-loss records were always a bad idea. They box you in. Now, not only do wins and losses not matter, it doesn’t matter if you’re a champion or not.

* The tag teams were always an overblown and overrated element to AEW. Their division has always sucked. Quantity does not equate to quality. The booking has been terrible. It does not mean more to The Acclaimed or Keith Lee & Swerve Strickland than it does to be The Usos or The New Day. Just more anti-WWE rhetorical people were willing to go with for a while.

* Tony Khan knows that bloating his roster is a bad idea. He did interviews where he bragged about not making the same mistakes as WCW. Yet here we are. He cannot help himself. Never mind AEW has always been making mistakes WCW made and they were just not aware. This could be Dave Meltzer’s influence and a focus on the IWC talking points.

* Yeah, that was bullshit. The contracts are as fucked as WWE. You are Tony Khan’s toy. In some ways, it could be worse than WWE because of Tony’s involvement. He seems to be part of the bullying sometimes.

* When you prop up insecure fucks like Kenny Omega and The Young Bucks, you are going to get the issues that AEW has developed. This was an inevitability. They were always going to bully and sabotage the moment someone threatened the status quo they had established with themselves at the head. Punk was the guy who called them out, but this clash of philosophies has been going on since day one.

* Wrestling fans don’t even have to know who the fuck Tony Khan is, yet he’s all over everything. It was a downright lie that he was too humble and too aware to stay away. He is the very definition of a money mark.

They could easily fix the tag division by having Butcher and Blade murder everyone.