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RP 09-20-2018 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SixxT9 (Post 5174908)
It's really not that big.

Also, Damian, I think it's because he's walking.


its flaccid. Trust me i have a big dong.

Simple Fan 09-20-2018 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RP (Post 5174907)
I think Phoenix is an amazing actor, but this project he's trying to take on is beyong crazy. Ledger nailed it . You cant nail it any better than Ledger did. I love Phoenix, but man, he cant top Ledger. This is a terrible role for him to go after. I dont even get it. I suppose if anyone can top it, Phoenix is the man, but i think he'll fall short of Ledgers performance.

Watched a fan film earlier called Joker Rising that has me interested to see this movie. Agree Ledger did a great job but I don't think that stops anyone else from pulling the character off. I think Leto did a great job with his version of Joker. Phoenix has that look though that I feel like once he gets into Joker mode it'll just feel right


Here is that fan film. It is a fan film and low budget but it told a good story. Guy that plays Joker reminded me of The Miz. It's about a hour an a half long



Damian Rey 2.0 09-20-2018 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RP (Post 5174907)
I think Phoenix is an amazing actor, but this project he's trying to take on is beyong crazy. Ledger nailed it . You cant nail it any better than Ledger did. I love Phoenix, but man, he cant top Ledger. This is a terrible role for him to go after. I dont even get it. I suppose if anyone can top it, Phoenix is the man, but i think he'll fall short of Ledgers performance.

He doesn't have to top Ledger. And I doubt that's what he's shooting for. It's an interesting character to play, and Phoenix probably sees it as a chance to do something different and fun with an iconic character that he could put his own spin on.

People used to think Nicholson Joker was tut best till Ledger came along. I'm interested to see how this plays out.

Sixx 09-20-2018 02:53 AM

I think he's a terrible choice for Joker, but then again so I thought about Ledger.

I thought Leto might be good but we all know it ended.

So we'll just see.

By the way, we still don't know who's gonna be Batman?

Damian Rey 2.0 09-20-2018 12:50 PM

Leto didn't get a fair shake. He should've been the main villain in that movie. But he was nothing more than a sidecharacter with very little screen time. I don't think we got enough of him to know whether or not he'd be good. I didn't care for all the tattoos tho.

Kalyx triaD 09-20-2018 01:16 PM

They can't just never do a live action Joker again because Ledger was great.

Seanny One Ball 09-20-2018 02:36 PM

They should have used his death for the film.
Coulda had Batman come in and be all "Drugs, Joker? My God..."

Destor 09-20-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 5174995)
They can't just never do a live action Joker again because Ledger was great.

They waited 20 year after Nicholson

Kalyx triaD 09-20-2018 03:22 PM

He was dead in a single movie series until Begins where they immediately put him in a sequel.

Simple Fan 09-21-2018 08:32 PM

Well they've tripled down on Joker sense Ledger with Leto, Phoenix, and the Gotham TV show. I think with the Star Wars rebirth and Hamil getting big praise as the animated Joker they've seemed to want to find that next great live action Joker.

RP 09-21-2018 08:47 PM

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This 32 second clip is better than everything Jared Leto. I'm warming up to Phoenix as Joker right now.

Simple Fan 09-21-2018 09:01 PM

I don't like the red nose and blue eye paint. Looks too much like a clown. I know he's the Clown Prince of Crime but I feel like that's too much on the nose so to speak.

Also Leto was a good Joker and didnt get a fair shake at the character.

RP 09-21-2018 09:20 PM

I didnt like the colors either. Red i dont care. THe blue was a little much.

Lock Jaw 09-21-2018 09:25 PM

Probably not the actual "Joker look", but just some actual clown makeup that he wears before he becomes the Joker

Simple Fan 09-21-2018 09:26 PM

Feel like the hair is s bit long as well. I thought Phoenix was a good choice because I imagined his Johnny Cash look only as Joker but that's completely different than what I imagined. I won't let that deter me from the movie as I'm still interested in it but the look has me disappointed.

Seanny One Ball 09-22-2018 09:25 AM

He's a far, far better fit for the role than Jared Leto. I think he's a better pick than Ledger too. Joaquin Phoenix is a consistently great actor and I never had that much love for anyone besides Jack Nicholson in the role.

Emperor Smeat 09-22-2018 06:09 PM

Really like Phoenix's Joker appearance since it gives off a playful sociopath feel to it.

Compared to Legder or classic Joker tv/film appearances, didn't really like Leto's design.

Sixx 09-22-2018 06:15 PM

I think it looks shit. Better than Leto's hipster Joker, but still shit.

RP 09-22-2018 10:40 PM

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Sixx 09-22-2018 10:42 PM

Do we even know who's gonna be Batman?

Kalyx triaD 09-22-2018 10:57 PM

There is no Batman from the sounds of it. Probably no Ace Chemicals, either. Or Red Hood for that matter.

Sixx 09-22-2018 11:00 PM

Umm, yeah, I just read the film is called Joker. I didn't know that. I thought this was gonna be this solo Batman movie Affleck was supposed to direct.

Damian Rey 2.0 09-23-2018 01:25 AM

I'm wondering if he gets the traditional Joker makeup later. The outfit is dead on. Kinda surreal this is happening. Read that a Joker Harley spinoff script was turned in today

Kalyx triaD 09-23-2018 01:30 PM

Yeah Leto Joker still lives.

Destor 09-23-2018 01:36 PM

I like how joker/harley joker is younger than the jokee origin story

Damian Rey 2.0 09-23-2018 04:48 PM

I find it oddly confusing and I wonder how the general audience will take to having such a notable character being represented by two different actors with different takes at that same time

Kalyx triaD 09-23-2018 05:27 PM

Perhaps WB believes the audience is ready for such a thing that comics and animation fans already got used to. Personally would not have been my call since it's absolutely gonna cause brand confusion.

Fignuts 09-23-2018 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5175674)
I like how joker/harley joker is younger than the jokee origin story

Last I heard they're not connected. Only Leto is part of the DCU canon.

Destor 09-23-2018 06:06 PM

People want cannon not what if.

Kalyx triaD 09-23-2018 10:11 PM

A very similar issue was raised by fans when George Miller's Justice League movie was in pre-production during (what we thought would be) an ongoing SuperRouth *and* BatBale series, for potentially three concurrent DC movie-verses.

Sixx 09-23-2018 10:39 PM

That's fucked up.

Damian Rey 2.0 09-23-2018 11:06 PM

Let us not forget Matt Reeves' Batman is coming, which has gotten conflicting reports on whether it's canon or standalone. Certain seems to be its own thing much like the Bale Batman was.

Sixx 09-23-2018 11:38 PM

Make 8 seperate universes, why don't you?

DC, you bunch of dweebs. And you're surprised Marvel is absolutely raping you at the box office?

Damian Rey 2.0 09-23-2018 11:46 PM

They can't be surprised. They had it right when they were letting Nolan do his thing. They should've kept up with that. Focusing on standalone films and world building for that one iconic character. Instead they handed the reigns to Snyder, who's really never been any good, and it all went to hell.

Kalyx triaD 09-24-2018 01:15 AM

I feel a great sense of dread that WB's shenanigans will kick off a backlash that will kill DC in movies period. It's too messy, and good looking prospects (Aquaman, WW84, Shazam) will get caught up.

Seanny One Ball 09-24-2018 10:31 AM

Yes that's it, some shit films now will undo history itself.

Lock Jaw 09-24-2018 10:36 AM

I think they need some clearly defined brands/labels. Like the DCEU isn't even an official label. They need a label, and then maybe an "Elseworlds" brand where they can just make whatever kind of one shot movies they want and people won't be confused thinking it is with the larger universe movies.

slik 09-24-2018 11:09 AM

I don't see it as a problem at all that DC's films won't be connected initially.
If they ever want them to be, down the line, boom, cinematic 'Crisis on Infinite Earths'.

It's honestly not that complicated.

Damian Rey 2.0 09-24-2018 02:32 PM

It won't kill DC. If the movies mentioned are good, they will thrives. WW didn't suffer from MOS or BvS. Reeves' Batman will likely draw if it's as good as his previous films.

McLegend 09-24-2018 05:49 PM

This is just a guess, and maybe it’s been mentioned earlier this thread. I think Joaquin Phoenix Joker is a prequel to the Dark Knight.


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