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Dazz 04-26-2005 05:29 PM

No one said that Saha is shit, just that he is not good enough for you.

Rob 04-26-2005 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto
He's not shit, he's just not particularly great. Definitely not worth the money paid, and his place in the squad could be better used.

I think Kleberson is a great player, but we'll not see the best of him at Manchester United. He'll probably be out this summer. He'll be quality given a run in a side without injuries.

I don't see anything in Kleberson personally.

El Capitano Gatisto 04-26-2005 05:44 PM

He's a class act. Brilliant passer of the ball, very industrious when he is fit. I thought he looked quality at the World Cup. The Brazilians rate him very highly too. Just had a very bad run of luck since moving to United.

Dazz 04-26-2005 05:54 PM

He didn't have long Vs Newcastle but I thought he looks comfortable and don't remember him making any mistakes.

Danny Electric 04-26-2005 06:08 PM

Park isn't shit Dazz.
I didn't watch the game tonight so I can't say much about his performance but this season he has been awesome for PSV in games I've watched on channel 5 and in the Champions League.

Dazz 04-26-2005 06:14 PM

Well, tonight he had one hell of a mare

El Capitano Gatisto 04-26-2005 06:21 PM

He wasn't that bad. He worked hard, put himself about, got into some good positions.

The passes through to him were hard to take in his stride.

Dazz 04-26-2005 06:27 PM

I thought he was shit, he put himself about and got into good positions, but played shit, and is a diving cunt. Seedorf should murder him if he misses the final. Getting a booking for Park doing a blatent dive annoys the fuck out of me, the slit eye did it twice too.

Dazz 04-26-2005 07:15 PM

Let's get in the spirit of things,

JUST LIKE SCOUSERS,
WE LOVE ROBBEN,
JUST LIKE SCOUSERS,
WE LOVE ROBBEN,
JUST LIKE SCOUSERS,
WE LOVE ROBBEN,

Can't wait for the game, getting to the ground about 1.30 for some drinking. COME ON THE BLUES.

Cactus Sid 04-27-2005 08:02 AM

I'm not looking forward to it at all, I just hope Rafa's got them up for it

Rob 04-27-2005 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazz
I thought he was shit, he put himself about and got into good positions, but played shit, and is a diving cunt. Seedorf should murder him if he misses the final. Getting a booking for Park doing a blatent dive annoys the fuck out of me, the slit eye did it twice too.

Because Robben never dives. Either does Joe Cole.

Y2Ant 04-27-2005 02:06 PM

and neither does Ronaldo. Oh wait :o

I dunno what to watch, Boro v Newcastle or Chelsea v Liverpool :'(

soconnor 04-27-2005 04:44 PM

Apart from Alonso getting banned for the second leg, get in there

Bring it on to fortress Anfield :D

Cactus Sid 04-27-2005 04:45 PM

Fantastic result 0-0

Steven Gerrard is utter wank. He didn't want to be on the pitch tonight, and I don't give a fuck what you do for the club, if you walk out on that pitch and barely try, you don't deserve to wear the clubs colours. Thank god Xabi and Igor were on form, as well as Carragher and Hyypia, who were all phenomenal. Also thought Cisse looked class when he came on, he's gotta start in the second leg.

We should've lost. First half we were really poor, but I honestly think we were the better side in the Second half, we just didn't look overly threatening when we got near the goal, unlike Chelsea.

Second leg is gonna be really interesting.

soconnor 04-27-2005 04:48 PM

You are mr negative Cactus Sid, I wish you'd shut the fuck up

I always said we'd beat chelsea and now we're half way there you still moan

Give it a rest and be positive for once

Wengerland 04-27-2005 04:55 PM

Gerrard didn't have a good game but you're going overboard there Sid tbh :(

Neither side really did enough to win the game, Chelsea were probably the better of the two but they never troubled Dudek.

Cactus Sid 04-27-2005 04:59 PM

I'm sorry, but Steven Gerrard's performance tonight was nothing short of disgraceful in my opinion.

Aside from that, we played well, I'm not saying we didn't, but if Gerrard plays like that at Anfield, then, without Xabi, we could be in trouble.

Also....the pessimism has worked so far, dont jinx it :mad:

soconnor 04-27-2005 05:07 PM

Let's not forget that Baros played awful too

Most of the Liverpool team was subdued we relied on the rock of Carragher (MOTM)

At the end of the day though we're at home next week, so we have to be positive

Just fucking cheer the team and I do feel we'll win it

ALONSO is my favourite player, I still feel gutted but Gerrard will work his arse off

Cactus Sid 04-27-2005 05:15 PM

Baros has been awful since just after Cisse got injured

Gerrard was just so poor though. He didn't even LOOK interested. He played 2 good passes all night, gave the ball away, made no challenges, didn't track back, let Gudjohnsen walk past him, and that shot he had just capped it off.

Tonight demonstrated why Carragher should've been in the team of the season, absolutely inexcusable that he isn't.

I wouldn't say the side was subdued at all. Finnan and Traore did their jobs well, Hyypia and Carragher were fantastic. Xabi and Igor were solid and Riise did a good job at times. Garcia wasn't brilliant, but he had times when he looked bright, Gerrard and Baros were just abysmal.

I'll cheer the team whether we're 5-0 up against Chelsea or 10-0 down against some Division 3 side, I just feel that Liverpool fans forget that we aren't the side we were, we are so inconsistent that its difficult for me to be optimistic about any fixture. I do think we've got a good chance in the second leg, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

El Capitano Gatisto 04-27-2005 05:40 PM

Gerrard was a disgrace tonight. A real let down.

Liverpool should spark a bidding war for him between Real Madrid and Chelsea, drive his price up something ridiculous, sell Baros to whoever is stupid enough to think he was ever actually any good and do some kind of deal with Kewell, where they permanently cripple him and split the insurance money, since he's not really bothered about playing.

Then they can build a side around Xabi Alonso and Jamie Carragher.

Cactus Sid 04-27-2005 05:46 PM

For once I agree with you on every point

Danny Electric 04-27-2005 06:31 PM

Carragher was awesome tonight, like every match.
Baros looked poor but he was up front on his own and didn't have the best of service, Gerrard had a poor match but at least he got it out of the way. Gutted about Alonso, thankyou to Gudjohnsen for getting him booked (you dick).
I thought a draw was the right result at the end of the game. Leaves it open next week, it'll be a great game and I have no idea who will win. I still see us going out on away goals or something.

soconnor 04-27-2005 07:08 PM

Fucking fans not getting behind their team, I should knock your heads together

The Chelsea fans were dreadful tonight, compare their mild chants to Anfield next week

Gerrard will be playing for revenge, whether he goes or not this season, it's all about him

Y2Ant 04-27-2005 07:13 PM

0-0 draw with Boro, could have been worse. :o

Dyer injured yet again :-\

Ogen 04-27-2005 09:05 PM

Thought Liverpool would do it before tonight but after that its gonna be Chelsea I think, Liverpool lose Alonso and Chelsea gain Duff and Robben for the second leg. Liverpool needed a goal tonight since I can't see them stoping Chelsea scoring over both legs.

Dazz 04-27-2005 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by soconnor
The Chelsea fans were dreadful tonight, compare their mild chants to Anfield next week

Tune your hearing aid in, we weren't dreadful at all.

Makelele and Hyypia were the best players on the park tonight IMO, absolute brilliant. Drogba didn't get much service, Joe Cole is fucking greedy, doesn't he realise there's 10 others on the pitch?

Lampard tries to do too much, he should let others take corners and free kicks, he cannot do it.

Can't wait for the Anfield game, SHOULD get my ticket tomorrow

Danny Electric 04-27-2005 09:13 PM

I thought Carragher was better than Hyypia but Makelele had a really good game.

toxic rooster 04-27-2005 09:21 PM

Haha looks like I made the right call in sleeping.

Dazz 04-27-2005 09:27 PM

I think they were both absolute quality, just Hyypia seemed busier.

Cactus Sid 04-28-2005 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazz
Tune your hearing aid in, we weren't dreadful at all.

Honestly Dazz, your lot were shit.

You could clearly hear the Liverpool fans throughout the game, the rest of the time you could've heard a pin drop.

LK 04-28-2005 07:31 AM

Baros only proved to me that he is as gash as I thought he was

LK 04-28-2005 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazz
I thought he was shit, he put himself about and got into good positions, but played shit, and is a diving cunt. Seedorf should murder him if he misses the final. Getting a booking for Park doing a blatent dive annoys the fuck out of me, the slit eye did it twice too.

**coughJoeColecough**

Danny Electric 04-28-2005 10:02 AM

Singing 'You'll Never Walk Alone' at the end. :)

Dazz 04-28-2005 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by legendkiller
**coughJoeColecough**

Yes, your quick, Duff and Robben to, I never said we didn't have any divers in our team, it doesn't mean I can't point out the divers in other teams, jog on you spastic, your posts are terrible.

Dazz 04-28-2005 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
Honestly Dazz, your lot were shit.

You could clearly hear the Liverpool fans throughout the game, the rest of the time you could've heard a pin drop.

Sorry but it must have been where the camera's or the sound mic's were positioned, we were far from shit.

Dazz 04-28-2005 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
Honestly Dazz, your lot were shit.

You could clearly hear the Liverpool fans throughout the game, the rest of the time you could've heard a pin drop.


Quote:

Originally Posted by D'Lo
Decent result for the Liverpool 0-0 not as bad as people are making out. Had a good time down London, Chelsea fans sang a bit but in the end got Frustrated like there team did. Got my tickets for 2nd leg in the Kop, the crowd will be awesome I can't wait and with the fans in full swing the players will be really up for it. Alonso tackle was never a booking a disgraceful decision by the ref.

Posted by some Liverpool fan on Rajah's that was at the game. We were also better then he says, but it shows were weren't silent like you lot say.

Also, Liverpool have some of the best fans in the league and constantly sing, so he is comparing us to them, which also doesn't do us any justice.

Danny Electric 04-28-2005 11:13 AM

Fair play to Dazz for sticking up for his fans. I thought they sounded loud apart from the end of the game.

Dazz 04-28-2005 11:17 AM

I always stick up for us if it's the truth, we were impressive alot I think, Dlo called it right, we just got frustrated by the end, there were a few come on Chelsea chants, other then that it was only near the end we were rubbish.

Wengerland 04-28-2005 11:17 AM

I thought Chelsea's fans weren't too bad to be fair, i agree with that lad from Rajah's, the fans pretty much matched the game, like near the end of the game when it looked as though it'd end goal-less the Chelsea fans went quiet and Liverpool fans were in full voice. At the start of the game it didn't seem as if Liverpool made much noise and it was Chelsea's fans who made a decent atmosphere.

soconnor 04-28-2005 01:25 PM

I didn't say they were silent, way to make a good point out of nothing

I said some chanting but nothing as good as it should of been

We'll see the difference at Anfield next week :D

Right now though, it's all about middlesborough.


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