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slik 08-25-2022 04:40 PM

Meltzer shared a story from his trip to the mail with his wife this past weekend on observer podcast. He stopped by the Hot Topic store and asked to speak with the manager. The manager was a real nice guy he said, reminded him of Darby Allin and Jeff Hardy. Dave inquired about how sales of the Young Bucks and other wrestlers shirts were doing and he said the manager told him they were selling 'great, really great' and that the manager even joked with him about what size he would wear and told him he could sell him one at a discount if he'd like. Meltzer said he didn't end up buying a shirt but he expected the shirts are huge sellers at Hot Topics across the U.S. based on his conversation with the manager of his local Hot Topic.

drave 08-25-2022 04:42 PM

Is that the stupid shit people pay him to tell?

Mr. Nerfect 08-25-2022 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 5573653)
Meltzer shared a story from his trip to the mail with his wife this past weekend on observer podcast. He stopped by the Hot Topic store and asked to speak with the manager. The manager was a real nice guy he said, reminded him of Darby Allin and Jeff Hardy. Dave inquired about how sales of the Young Bucks and other wrestlers shirts were doing and he said the manager told him they were selling 'great, really great' and that the manager even joked with him about what size he would wear and told him he could sell him one at a discount if he'd like. Meltzer said he didn't end up buying a shirt but he expected the shirts are huge sellers at Hot Topics across the U.S. based on his conversation with the manager of his local Hot Topic.

:rofl:

Mr. Nerfect 08-25-2022 04:50 PM

So is Meltzer insane or just a spin artist?

drave 08-25-2022 04:55 PM

Sounds like he asked another human a question, then stated the answer that person gave him.


That's what that says up there.

Mr. Nerfect 08-25-2022 04:55 PM

Lol, we don’t have Hot Topic over here. I always forget that it’s kind of a meme these days itself.

Mr. Nerfect 08-25-2022 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5573660)
Sounds like he asked another human a question, then stated the answer that person gave him.


That's what that says up there.

And extrapolated it to be data for North America? With the clerk answering in Dave’s voice? After just happening to remind him of Dave’s idea of cool wrestlers?

xrodmuc316 08-25-2022 05:25 PM

Bros...

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screech 08-25-2022 06:17 PM

lol meltzer what are you doing, guy?

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-25-2022 07:26 PM

HAHAHAAHA

drave 08-26-2022 08:04 AM

Quote:

And extrapolated it to be data for North America? With the clerk answering in Dave’s voice? After just happening to remind him of Dave’s idea of cool wrestlers?

Yes to the first sentence. He's a sensationalist and always has been. Not defending him in any capacity, but you should be aware of this by now. Seriously, if this is the kinda content that people pay him for, then lofuckingl. It's dumb.



Everything else after the 1st sentence is something you did yourself.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5573770)
Yes to the first sentence. He's a sensationalist and always has been. Not defending him in any capacity, but you should be aware of this by now. Seriously, if this is the kinda content that people pay him for, then lofuckingl. It's dumb.



Everything else after the 1st sentence is something you did yourself.

Lol, no one is saying it’s new. But it could be new to someone. The guy doesn’t deserve a pass just because he’s consistently been this misleading.

ron the dial 08-26-2022 01:37 PM

good thing you're here to hold him accountable!

drave 08-26-2022 01:45 PM

What would the world do without Noid NoidBlocking Dave Meltzer, the most prestigious journo to ever exist ever.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ron the dial (Post 5573819)
good thing you're here to hold him accountable!

Yeah, it is good people call out bullshit. It can help some people stop taking this shit as granted fact (which plenty do).

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 02:15 PM

Lol, Meltzer’s spin is that AEW didn’t go after Gargano.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 02:37 PM

So All Out looks like the drizzling shits:

SPOILER: show

* The Trios Titles are a bad idea. Just like the rankings. Just like the Women’s Tag Titles in WWE. Just like the CW Title. As an annual tournament? Fine. The timing is wrong and the belts are going to be an anchor and distraction more than anything. It’s been terribly booked. Looks like the finals might be The Elite vs. The Best Friends or The Dark Order. Bad shit that few people care about.

* Wardlow & FTR vs. Jay Lethal, Sonjay Dutt & Satnam Singh is not a great use of…anybody really. Wardlow has been booked so badly. FTR have been booked so badly. Jay Lethal has been booked so badly. Is this Sonjay’s first AEW match? And Singh makes Omos look polished. Terrible.

* Why is there a four-way for a vacant singles title? Let’s jam as many women who can’t really work into a clusterfuck. Hey, at least it keeps in line with their women being afterthoughts.

* There’s going to be a Casino Ladder Match! Yay! We haven’t seen guys jump around doing stunts before. The most interesting thing, sadly, is going to be if someone gets hurt. Lazy booking to jam a bunch of guys you haven’t booked into meaningful matches on the card.

* Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Jericho would have been a match that featured 2 great workers…10 years ago. Danielson is 40 and Jericho is 50. And Jericho sucks now. Danielson could carry this. Disappointing how he’s been used in his 1st year in AEW. It might be as disappointing as his first 6 months back in WWE in 2018.

* Swerve in Our Glory? What kind of a shit name is that? Keith Lee fucking sucks. He’s a tag champ because TK signed absolutely everybody under the sun and made bullshit promises to them. Can’t let them fall into obscurity because THEY FUCKING SUCK! Swerve & Lee are token black champs for Khan. The Acclaimed are…whatever. There were good mumblings about their work with The Gunn Club which isn’t getting its due here. Just thrown onto the card to have two black teams go against each orher, I guess. Can anyone say that tag teams truly matter in this company? Of course not.

* Christian Cage’s heel turn started off as something fresh. It very quickly devolved into knockoff MJF territory. Luchasaurus looked fine as a heel, but they already fucked that up. Fuck this fucking company, man. Hopefully the match is good. Jungle Boy has less potential now than he did 3 years ago. Christian should have gone to WWE.

* Will Hobbs and Ricky Starks…why is this feud even happening? These two could be a top team in the promotion. They’ve both got potential. Surprised they made the card since they don’t usually get much of a chance. I don’t know why Starks is also feuding with The JOB Squad. Fuck this company, man.

XL 08-26-2022 03:39 PM

Lethal is teaming with MCMG.

I know the make up of the team isn’t the issue there.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5573858)
Lethal is teaming with MCMG.

I know the make up of the team isn’t the issue there.

My mistake. I care so little about what they’ve done I just assumed it was all Lethal’s group. In a way this makes it even worse. They don’t even make sense as a faction.

#1-norm-fan 08-26-2022 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5573872)
I care so little about what they’ve done...

https://www.icegif.com/wp-content/up...s-icegif-2.gif

Vastardikai 08-26-2022 04:37 PM

So let me guess, Britt showed Tony her bra strap* so he's gonna give her the Women's Title back?

*the bra strap wasn't from the bra she was wearing. Nor was it attached to a bra. Nor was it even from her bra. It may not have even been from a bra. The fact is, Tony is a simp.

drave 08-26-2022 05:04 PM

Quote:

My mistake. I care so little about what they’ve done I just assumed it was all Lethal’s group. In a way this makes it even worse. They don’t even make sense as a faction.

You care.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5573896)
You care.

Sorry, let me rephrase: I don’t care in the way they want me to. I want nice things.

ron the dial 08-26-2022 05:28 PM

want in one hand shit in the other good luck brother

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 05:49 PM

Darby Allin crashed his jeep into a trailer that was stationed on his property. On purpose.

slik 08-26-2022 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 5573653)
Meltzer shared a story from his trip to the mail with his wife this past weekend on observer podcast. He stopped by the Hot Topic store and asked to speak with the manager. The manager was a real nice guy he said, reminded him of Darby Allin and Jeff Hardy. Dave inquired about how sales of the Young Bucks and other wrestlers shirts were doing and he said the manager told him they were selling 'great, really great' and that the manager even joked with him about what size he would wear and told him he could sell him one at a discount if he'd like. Meltzer said he didn't end up buying a shirt but he expected the shirts are huge sellers at Hot Topics across the U.S. based on his conversation with the manager of his local Hot Topic.

Meltzer updated on this -- he said he has to go out of town for a short trip this weekend but he might try to stop by the local mall of where he'll be at and ask the manager of the Hot Topic how AEW shirts are selling if he gets a chance

ron the dial 08-26-2022 06:11 PM

oh that rascal meltzer

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 06:16 PM

I’m sure they’re selling like Nokias.

Verbose Minch 08-26-2022 06:18 PM

Noid being mentally broken by an anecdotal story about t shirt sales. Incredible

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbose Minch (Post 5573916)
Noid being mentally broken by an anecdotal story about t shirt sales. Incredible

Don’t pull your back out stretching to fit in with the cool kids there.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 06:45 PM

All the defensiveness means it’s time for your reminder that AEW sucks sweaty donkey balls. Y’all love the taste of sweaty donkey balls.

ron the dial 08-26-2022 06:49 PM

don't kink shame

#1-norm-fan 08-26-2022 07:47 PM

As long as we all agree who the cool kids are...

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ron the dial (Post 5573929)
don't kink shame

The donkey cannot consent, you monster.

ron the dial 08-26-2022 08:15 PM

i've got a smart ass

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 08:29 PM

Everyone thinks their ass is smart.

Verbose Minch 08-26-2022 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5573926)
Don’t pull your back out stretching to fit in with the cool kids there.

Folks, you heard if from the man himself. AEW fans are officially the cool kids. (Probably why their Tshirts are selling out nationwide)

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbose Minch (Post 5573940)
Folks, you heard if from the man himself. AEW fans are officially the cool kids. (Probably why their Tshirts are selling out nationwide)

I wasn’t being serious, but thanks for voting me the authority. I shall use that authority to remind you that AEW sucks.

Selling out for AEW means they sold 6 shirts.

xrodmuc316 08-26-2022 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 5573910)
Meltzer updated on this -- he said he has to go out of town for a short trip this weekend but he might try to stop by the local mall of where he'll be at and ask the manager of the Hot Topic how AEW shirts are selling if he gets a chance

Why would a local mall manager divulge confidential finances of a private company with a 62 year old ugly dude that comes in the store talking with his fucking tongue sticking out of his mouth wagging around?

That is some FAN logic

#1-norm-fan 08-26-2022 09:57 PM

Tip of the day: Turning to trolling after you’ve been outed as a moron past the point of defense in order to pretend it was all just a game is not sly and does not make you seem smarter.

#1-norm-fan 08-26-2022 10:14 PM

Cumdorx trying to respond without proving my assessment right while also pretending he can’t read my post…

https://c.tenor.com/me1Yk0jRlHoAAAAC/huh-confused.gif

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5573947)
Why would a local mall manager divulge confidential finances of a private company with a 62 year old ugly dude that comes in the store talking with his fucking tongue sticking out of his mouth wagging around?

That is some FAN logic

You’d tell that old fuck what he wants to hear so he’d leave you alone.

slik 08-26-2022 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5573947)
Why would a local mall manager divulge confidential finances of a private company with a 62 year old ugly dude that comes in the store talking with his fucking tongue sticking out of his mouth wagging around?

That is some FAN logic

He probably shows them his press pass or something

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2022 11:02 PM

I’m sure that’s how all the sickos get what they want from Hot Topic.

XL 08-27-2022 08:31 AM

Loving the idea of Dave working his way around every Hot Topic in America on a one-man mission to collect sales data for AEW shirts.

screech 08-27-2022 08:49 AM

He'd probably get people to pay to watch that as a web series

Damian Rey 2.0 08-27-2022 11:45 AM

Confidential finances Lmaooooo dude just asked if the shirts are selling well. He’s not giving away sales figures and quarterly reports lol

Mr. Nerfect 08-27-2022 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5574023)
Loving the idea of Dave working his way around every Hot Topic in America on a one-man mission to collect sales data for AEW shirts.

He just does one and then makes up the rest. Each episode is a different concept.

Mr. Nerfect 08-27-2022 12:47 PM

Dave talks to one woman about blood in wrestling, reaches a conclusion. He talks to one teenage kid about what wrestling they like, there’s his data.

Fignuts 08-27-2022 02:58 PM

They had game play demo of Fight Forever at gamescom, and credit where it's due, it looks genuinely reminiscent of the old n64 games. Much more than any other titles that made the same claim. Of course looking reminiscent and feeling reminiscent are two different things, so we'll have to wait and see.

But I'm a little more optimistic than I was before.

Mr. Nerfect 08-27-2022 04:56 PM

So much of the magic of WWF No Mercy was in the time. Wrestling was hot and people cared enough to play with you. It was also fitting for the N64 platform at the time. I get people want to go back, but trying to make a game that looks like that and mimics what would now be seen as limitations is not necessarily a good move. You take what works and move it forward appropriately.

Maybe this grossly over-budget game that has seen the lead developer jump ship is that? It does LOOK like a bare-bones, less colorful No Mercy. But it’s got a LONG way to go to capture the charm. And stupid mini-games aren’t going to do it.

Mr. Nerfect 08-27-2022 04:57 PM

I understand the optimism. Hope in one hand…

Fignuts 08-27-2022 05:01 PM

Well I'm just talking about the game play which is timeless really. People still enjoy playing those games today after all. Advancing the formula to modern times would involve the rest of the feature set, and it remains to be seen if it does that.

Destor 08-27-2022 06:18 PM

No Mercy plays great to this day. Its fluid and responsive. Its easy to pick up and play. With a roster update wwe could release "wwf no mercy 2022" tomorrow and it would work. AEWs game look solid in presentation but im need to feel it. Like any fighting game it has to feel the way you intuitively expect it to. Cant judge that with my eyes.

Jordan 08-28-2022 08:05 AM

Wrestling games don't really make sense and can't be accurate because wrestling isn't real so therefore to do it accurately is basically like playing "Broadway the video game".

drave 08-28-2022 08:53 AM

You've not played the N64 games, I see.

Fignuts 08-28-2022 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5574110)
Wrestling games don't really make sense and can't be accurate because wrestling isn't real so therefore to do it accurately is basically like playing "Broadway the video game".

You might be overthinking it a bit.

Destor 08-28-2022 09:36 AM

Wrestling gamed shouldnt be trying to be accurate. They should be arcade fighting games. The sim approach from the modern 2k games are awful because theyre sim and not arcade.

drave 08-28-2022 09:42 AM

DIG-DIG-DIGGITY


DIG-DIGGITY-DAWG






SPOILER: show
SOCKO!

Mr. Nerfect 08-28-2022 02:39 PM

Nobody:

William Regal: I don’t care if AEW fires me. Please fire me.

#1-norm-fan 08-28-2022 02:40 PM

I played one of the newer WWE games a bit a couple years ago and there was a “GM mode” that seemed to try to mix EWR-style stuff in while also making the events unscripted. It was a mess. Couldn’t get into it.

rez 08-28-2022 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5574077)
They had game play demo of Fight Forever at gamescom, and credit where it's due, it looks genuinely reminiscent of the old n64 games. Much more than any other titles that made the same claim. Of course looking reminiscent and feeling reminiscent are two different things, so we'll have to wait and see.

But I'm a little more optimistic than I was before.

https://www.ign.com/videos/aew-fight...-gamescom-2022

slik 08-29-2022 01:22 AM

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Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2022 03:54 AM

It seems to be a common sentiment that AEW “used to be better.” I dunno — I thought it was always the shits. Orange Cassidy and goofy segments like magic cameras catching MJF hiring hitmen were barriers of entry for me.

A lot of the guys who were there at the beginning are either still in the same spot or in worse spots. The Acclaimed might be getting a title shot at the PPV, but who cares? AEW is not the place to develop.

Evil Vito 08-29-2022 08:56 AM

I think those comments on the segments are fair criticism. I also think in some ways it might be a function of them having more time than talent for a couple of years and now it feels like the opposite is true.

AEW were great at rotating talent in and out in the early days. You'd rarely ever see someone wrestle two Dynamites in a row, but with the size of the roster they were able to give pretty much everyone some shine in the 2 weeks. Now their roster has gotten to the point where they've clearly identified a handful of talents they want to feature every week, but the roster is so big now everyone else on the rotation is lucky to wrestle on TV once a month, if that.

Some of their pre-tapes are cool and all of that, guys like Miro, House of Black, Andrade etc have all done good work with that. But it does get to the point where it feels like just stalling for time before they get them back in a match.

6 hours of TV across 2 weeks should still be plenty of time to get everyone important a match.

XL 08-29-2022 09:22 AM

Some guys don’t need the ring time. For me as long as there is some sort of feature for the talent between a match, in-ring segment, backstage interview, vignette, recap then you’re good to go. The issue is they’ve so many talents and so much to fit in it’s too much per episode and I forget what’s happened. It’s a very, very delicate balance.

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2022 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5574267)
Some guys don’t need the ring time. For me as long as there is some sort of feature for the talent between a match, in-ring segment, backstage interview, vignette, recap then you’re good to go. The issue is they’ve so many talents and so much to fit in it’s too much per episode and I forget what’s happened. It’s a very, very delicate balance.

This is a similar problem to the 3hr Raw. By the time you’ve gotten to a certain marker you’ve forgotten what has happened before, which buries it. Emphasis is so important. You can’t emphasize everything, and AEW has so much stuff that needs emphasis that cannot get it.

And while you’re right about not everyone needing ring time, from the talent’s perspective they might not be getting enough, which is going to cause problems when deals come up, etc.

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2022 12:23 PM

I don’t think it was posted here, but FTR are apparently not in the AEW video game. Former Tag Champs and guys currently with three different sets of belts — can’t get in. There’s continued scuttlebutt that the roster is not going to be very comprehensive.

The video game usually comes with some big licensing fees, so FTR are not happy about not being included in/being dropped from the game.

drave 08-29-2022 01:14 PM

The other place has the same problem with their roster by the time their games are available for purchase. This is not a new, nor unique problem to AEW.

Evil Vito 08-29-2022 01:56 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FTR Is Not Upset And Does Not Blame Anyone For Being Pulled From AEW Fight Forever <a href="https://t.co/Ql2zR8kYxp">https://t.co/Ql2zR8kYxp</a></p>&mdash; Fightful Wrestling (@Fightful) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fightful/status/1564295830655614977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FTR aRe UpSeT

xrodmuc316 08-29-2022 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5574300)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FTR Is Not Upset And Does Not Blame Anyone For Being Pulled From AEW Fight Forever <a href="https://t.co/Ql2zR8kYxp">https://t.co/Ql2zR8kYxp</a></p>&mdash; Fightful Wrestling (@Fightful) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fightful/status/1564295830655614977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FTR aRe UpSeT

So Cody is still in the game, but not FTR lol. I could create a wrestler in No Mercy in about 5 minutes, yet they couldn't make generic wrestler bald and generic wrestler hair for the game 20+ years later??? Fucking AEW man :rofl:

xrodmuc316 08-29-2022 02:58 PM

Xavier Woods tweeting smack to ̶K̶e̶n̶n̶y̶ ̶O̶m̶e̶g̶a̶ ̶ FTR Hair and Bald...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Earned? Besides EARNING my crown I EARNED spots in Gears of War, Bomberman, Brawlhalla, and now Fall Guys. But congrats on being available in the 2K community creations. <a href="https://t.co/oqqBp2R9fE">pic.twitter.com/oqqBp2R9fE</a></p>&mdash; Austin Creed (@AustinCreedWins) <a href="https://twitter.com/AustinCreedWins/status/1553022806765588480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2022 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5574291)
The other place has the same problem with their roster by the time their games are available for purchase. This is not a new, nor unique problem to AEW.

Who was the most glaring omission from the latest WWE game?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5574300)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FTR Is Not Upset And Does Not Blame Anyone For Being Pulled From AEW Fight Forever <a href="https://t.co/Ql2zR8kYxp">https://t.co/Ql2zR8kYxp</a></p>&mdash; Fightful Wrestling (@Fightful) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fightful/status/1564295830655614977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FTR aRe UpSeT

If I tAlK lIkE tHiS pEoPlE tHiNk I’vE gOt a PoInT.

I don’t believe FTR are happy about missing a giant source of revenue at all. Unless they know the game isn’t going to sell.

Lock Jaw 08-29-2022 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5574291)
The other place has the same problem with their roster by the time their games are available for purchase. This is not a new, nor unique problem to AEW.

They are generally within under 2 year accuracy, wiki tells me FTR joined AEW in 2020

XL 08-29-2022 03:54 PM

Adadon is in right?

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2022 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5574318)
Adadon is in right?

I believe she was confirmed, yes.

Maybe she was confirmed and then cut and was happy about it though.

XL 08-29-2022 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5574284)
This is a similar problem to the 3hr Raw. By the time you’ve gotten to a certain marker you’ve forgotten what has happened before, which buries it. Emphasis is so important. You can’t emphasize everything, and AEW has so much stuff that needs emphasis that cannot get it.

And while you’re right about not everyone needing ring time, from the talent’s perspective they might not be getting enough, which is going to cause problems when deals come up, etc.

I think it depends heavily on what your strengths are. A guy like Ricochet needs ring time as that’s the thing to get people to hook into him, where as a guy with more personality/ability to cut a promo can get over that way. I guess in AEW there’s more “Ricochets” than not, but when you’re 1 of 50 “Ricochets” I guess it’s a tough spot. Ultimately there’s just far too many guys they’re trying to keep spotlighted, as you say.

XL 08-29-2022 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5574320)
I believe she was confirmed, yes.

Maybe she was confirmed and then cut and was happy about it though.

Abadon signed in June 2020. FTR debuted May 27th 2020. Seems crazy that Abadon would make the cut and FTR wouldn’t. Unless a) they decided she makes a good character for a video game and/or b) wanted her in to flesh out the womens roster.

FTR seems like a huge omission.

#1-norm-fan 08-29-2022 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5574285)
FTR are not happy about not being included in/being dropped from the game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5574300)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FTR Is Not Upset And Does Not Blame Anyone For Being Pulled From AEW Fight Forever <a href="https://t.co/Ql2zR8kYxp">https://t.co/Ql2zR8kYxp</a></p>&mdash; Fightful Wrestling (@Fightful) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fightful/status/1564295830655614977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FTR aRe UpSeT

Dude. Noid reported personally that FTR are not happy about this. That trumps whatever source YOU’RE presenting, which appears to be… *reads article*… FTR themselves…

Vastardikai 08-29-2022 04:52 PM

I mean, I wouldn't blame anyone if the person to blame was in the ear of the guy who signs my checks, either.

Now, if Rosa suddenly gets omitted, I am gonna laugh.

Sting Fan 08-29-2022 05:46 PM

In the article FTR are quoted as saying they spoke to Tony and legal and understood once they spoke to them (paraphrasing).

So either theres a copyright issue or they will be DLC, or both would be my guess.

Destor 08-29-2022 06:13 PM

Saw a full match of the game. Looks really cool. Very DoR

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-29-2022 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sting Fan (Post 5574326)
In the article FTR are quoted as saying they spoke to Tony and legal and understood once they spoke to them (paraphrasing).

So either theres a copyright issue or they will be DLC, or both would be my guess.

Could you imagine if it was just Kenny and the Bucks being spiteful lolol man that would be peak wrestling.

Sepholio 08-29-2022 08:22 PM

They should troll everyone who gets the game a few days early by only having Kenny and the Bucks on the roster. That's the whole game. Until the release day patch enables everyone else. Would be kinda funny.

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2022 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sting Fan (Post 5574326)
In the article FTR are quoted as saying they spoke to Tony and legal and understood once they spoke to them (paraphrasing).

So either theres a copyright issue or they will be DLC, or both would be my guess.

Lol, spoke to legal. “Shut the fuck up about this or else.” Anyone who thinks talent is okay being cut out of a source of revenue like that is kidding themselves. We’re not talking about Peter Avalon not making the cut. Or whoever debuts next month. FTR are a glaring omission from the game. What are the chances they are the only ones?

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2022 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5574335)
They should troll everyone who gets the game a few days early by only having Kenny and the Bucks on the roster. That's the whole game. Until the release day patch enables everyone else. Would be kinda funny.

Or they can just release the game and everyone can laugh at that.

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2022 08:40 PM

Which tag teams would take priority over FTR?

#1-norm-fan 08-29-2022 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5574337)
Lol, spoke to legal. “Shut the fuck up about this or else.”

I certainly hope they don’t get in trouble for giving you the inside scoop that they are NOT HAPPY about this before pretending it’s a non-issue.

Sting Fan 08-29-2022 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5574329)
Could you imagine if it was just Kenny and the Bucks being spiteful lolol man that would be peak wrestling.

Lol would be good internet fodder thats for sure.

This I wonder how many extra eyeballs this little saga has got on the game from the cranky internet trolls tripping balls about it. Nothing like free publicity.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-30-2022 01:20 AM

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The wheels seem to have fallen off once Punk got hurt. Think the company was having a great run up until then. Forbidden door delivered in ring but was rushed and mostly meaningless. And it’s felt like the company has been directionless since, despite every effort to course correct.

Tony also has the bad habit of waiting to announce ppv matches and they feel rushed instead of being built to.

Hopefully they get their shit together after all out. I don’t know why guys like Hangman, Wardlow, FTR (who should be tag champs), Hook and I’m sure a handful of others aren’t getting more shine. They’re Darby, Miro and House of Black in there too.

Mr. Nerfect 08-30-2022 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sting Fan (Post 5574384)
Lol would be good internet fodder thats for sure.

This I wonder how many extra eyeballs this little saga has got on the game from the cranky internet trolls tripping balls about it. Nothing like free publicity.

None.

Sting Fan 08-30-2022 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5574396)
The wheels seem to have fallen off once Punk got hurt. Think the company was having a great run up until then. Forbidden door delivered in ring but was rushed and mostly meaningless. And it’s felt like the company has been directionless since, despite every effort to course correct.

Tony also has the bad habit of waiting to announce ppv matches and they feel rushed instead of being built to.

Hopefully they get their shit together after all out. I don’t know why guys like Hangman, Wardlow, FTR (who should be tag champs), Hook and I’m sure a handful of others aren’t getting more shine. They’re Darby, Miro and House of Black in there too.

It really has felt chaotic since Punk went down. Like the booking on the fly sort of scenario is really killing the focus across the board if the headline act isnt in order.

Kind of makes sense if TK doesnt have a lot of booking help.

Vastardikai 08-30-2022 07:08 AM

What I see happening, since the beginning of this year, is that the Cucamunga Cliq is gonna run off anyone they view as a threat to them and their vision of what the show should be (PWG with a budget). And Tony, being a grinning idiot, will go along with it.

Cody is gone. Punk (for better or worse) is likely in a competition with Thunder Rosa over who is next out the door. From there, probably FTR. Then, in due time, Andrade, Miro, and even Jericho (again, for better or worse).

drave 08-30-2022 08:02 AM

THey were removed from the roster at release. FTR are the goods and they know it, so they will put them behind DLC for more $$$$.


Just like WWE2k19 when they put KO, Shinsuke, some women and The Fiend behind DLC, despite them being on the initial roster as well.


Nothing new, just three different letters doing the same thing as the others. Cultists tho, amirite

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-30-2022 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Spilchuk (Post 5574406)
What I see happening, since the beginning of this year, is that the Cucamunga Cliq is gonna run off anyone they view as a threat to them and their vision of what the show should be (PWG with a budget). And Tony, being a grinning idiot, will go along with it.

Cody is gone. Punk (for better or worse) is likely in a competition with Thunder Rosa over who is next out the door. From there, probably FTR. Then, in due time, Andrade, Miro, and even Jericho (again, for better or worse).

Tony needs to distance himself from those fucking losers asap.

Mr. Nerfect 08-30-2022 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spilchuk (Post 5574406)
What I see happening, since the beginning of this year, is that the Cucamunga Cliq is gonna run off anyone they view as a threat to them and their vision of what the show should be (PWG with a budget). And Tony, being a grinning idiot, will go along with it.

Cody is gone. Punk (for better or worse) is likely in a competition with Thunder Rosa over who is next out the door. From there, probably FTR. Then, in due time, Andrade, Miro, and even Jericho (again, for better or worse).

I definitely see that with FTR. I think part of their flippant approach with CM Punk back in 2019 was to ward him off. Omega and The Bucks clearly don’t like the more refined philosophy to compete with. Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me if Cody didn’t want another top dog to compete with at the time either.

A lot of the other guys seem like their “guys” and the kind of acts that they’d surround themselves with. But I’m probably being pretty naive with those types of egos. It isn’t a coincidence that a guy like Miro isn’t capitalized on.

#1-norm-fan 08-30-2022 06:22 PM

With FTR winning everything BUT the AEW titles, Punk being brought back just to be put back on the shelf and Samoa Joe being brought in and then just kinda disappearing, it SEEMS like Tony is putting a lot into the idea that ROH is gonna get a good deal and be a viable second brand.

Which is a terrible idea even if he does have a plan set for ROH.

Mr. Nerfect 08-30-2022 07:11 PM

Lol, does All Out have a main event yet? Maybe they are going to not have a World Title match and just do the six-man belts as the main? Or Jericho/Danielson or the Ladder Match? All would be weird choices.

Evil Vito 08-31-2022 09:04 AM

Eddie Kingston vs. Tomohiro Ishii added to the All Out pre-show. Fuck that's gonna rule.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-31-2022 09:05 AM

lol Fuck Tony for putting Eddie on the pre-show. And fuck the Young Bucks in general.


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