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RoXer 03-11-2012 12:49 AM
I have another question:

Where are the female Turians?

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-11-2012 01:14 AM
Is there some sort of time limit to do Galaxy at War? Or can you do it independently from the story without having a Mass effect 2 "suicide mission"?

Swiss Ultimate 03-11-2012 01:47 AM
Okay, just finished the entire game. Wow. Even with some of the glitches and moments where the game told my Xbox to fuck itself I have obsessively been playing this game for days now. Something like 34 hours and I did every side mission I could find (plus multiplayer). Not sure how my Readiness Level actually played out in the end but most of my galaxy was 94% and above and only because of multiplayer. Without multiplayer everything would probably have been in the 70s for me.


Long Rant with spoilers:
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Was slightly confused at the end. I knew I wanted to kill the Reapers, but wasn't real sure of which side to go to. Chose the red side and just started shooting. After the credits my body twitches...and some really bad actors pretend they just told the story that I played. Shep becomes a legend...but I'm not entirely clear as to whether he killed the Geth as collateral damage. I didn't want the Geth to die.

Also weird, I took my Prothean friend along with Garrus with me on the final mission. Figured we had a shot at living and I really like both characters. Later, when Joker finds himself in the path of a relatively tiny beam of energy and crash lands on some pretty jungle planet, the Prothean comes out of the ship along with Tali (Shep's love interest)...I saw all these people on Earth. Why are they suddenly on the ship???

I love the game, but there are definitely some signs that it was rushed here and there. That said, this is the only game where the cut-scenes actually matter to me. The climactic space battle was pretty fucking awesome, as was the assault on Earth. For those of you who've been to or live in London, do all the doors have that weird green hologram thing on them?? Also, do people talk like Admiral Anderson in England? I didn't peg his accent as anything but American. :/ He even rolled his eyes to the side when he mentioned for the second time that he was born in London.

Next time I play the end mission I'm going to go ahead and choose synthesis. Wanna see if they do a weird Akira ending. I feel like him choosing anything at the end is a bit silly, how would he know if he was under Reaper control? The option to control the Reapers just seemed a bit too...I dunno...evil?

I love the game, it has a shit-ton of improvements and the combat was fun. In ME2 I just tried to get it over with so that I could get to the next scene. This time I enjoyed the strategy of it. Would really have hated shouting out my commands, however. Using the wheel to have multiple things done in the fraction of a second is pretty much essential for my play style. Fucked that Ninja Dude's shit right up thanks to coordinated Overloads.

Was hoping that my decision to kill the Reapers would ultimately end with Shep alive and back on the Normandy sailing off into the "sunset" ala Star Trek. Maybe if I choose one of the other endings I'll be able to do that???

Anyways...craaaazy.

LoDownM 03-11-2012 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3793220)
Okay, just finished the entire game. Wow. Even with some of the glitches and moments where the game told my Xbox to fuck itself I have obsessively been playing this game for days now. Something like 34 hours and I did every side mission I could find (plus multiplayer). Not sure how my Readiness Level actually played out in the end but most of my galaxy was 94% and above and only because of multiplayer. Without multiplayer everything would probably have been in the 70s for me.


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Was slightly confused at the end. I knew I wanted to kill the Reapers, but wasn't real sure of which side to go to. Chose the red side and just started shooting. After the credits my body twitches...and some really bad actors pretend they just told the story that I played. Shep becomes a legend...but I'm not entirely clear as to whether he killed the Geth as collateral damage. I didn't want the Geth to die.

Also weird, I took my Prothean friend along with Garrus with me on the final mission. Figured we had a shot at living and I really like both characters. Later, when Joker finds himself in the path of a relatively tiny beam of energy and crash lands on some pretty jungle planet, the Prothean comes out of the ship along with Tali (Shep's love interest)...I saw all these people on Earth. Why are they suddenly on the ship???

I love the game, but there are definitely some signs that it was rushed here and there. That said, this is the only game where the cut-scenes actually matter to me. The climactic space battle was pretty fucking awesome, as was the assault on Earth. For those of you who've been to or live in London, do all the doors have that weird green hologram thing on them?? Also, do people talk like Admiral Anderson in England? I didn't peg his accent as anything but American. :/ He even rolled his eyes to the side when he mentioned for the second time that he was born in London.

Next time I play the end mission I'm going to go ahead and choose synthesis. Wanna see if they do a weird Akira ending. I feel like him choosing anything at the end is a bit silly, how would he know if he was under Reaper control? The option to control the Reapers just seemed a bit too...I dunno...evil?

I love the game, it has a shit-ton of improvements and the combat was fun. In ME2 I just tried to get it over with so that I could get to the next scene. This time I enjoyed the strategy of it. Would really have hated shouting out my commands, however. Using the wheel to have multiple things done in the fraction of a second is pretty much essential for my play style. Fucked that Ninja Dude's shit right up thanks to coordinated Overloads.

Was hoping that my decision to kill the Reapers would ultimately end with Shep alive and back on the Normandy sailing off into the "sunset" ala Star Trek. Maybe if I choose one of the other endings I'll be able to do that???

Anyways...craaaazy.
That was Buzz Aldrin at the end, not just some terrible voice actor Bioware picked up btw.

Swiss Ultimate 03-11-2012 03:01 AM
He needs acting lessons.

Swiss Ultimate 03-11-2012 03:02 AM
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#BROKEN Hasney 03-11-2012 06:26 AM
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Both endings are the same so don't waste your time on it.

There is a "perfect" ending with 30 seconds of extra cutscene in which:

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After you see the fee crash land, a camera pans over somewhere and you see Shepards body and dog tags... Then you see a gasp for air and the credits hit


With the DLC they have planned, it's likely that this isn't the real ending. Some of the devs say they have some crazy shit planned, but I don't know. I don't want the big cheery ending. Hated the ending because you don't know what happens to the crew so there's no closure there really. The aliens on your crew must have been pissed off, but who knows?

The Destroyer 03-11-2012 10:22 AM
Liking this so far, but I'm really not looking forward to the end, what with all the pissing and moaning I've heard about it. I can't help feel they've shot themselves in the foot character wise because of ME2 though...

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The whole "anyone can die!" element of the suicide mission in that game pretty much means most of the squad from that game is limited to fairly minor "I'll join you, but not in any important way" roles or the likes of Thane or Miranda, who just don't join you at all. No point making huge roles for characters when they could easily have died in someone's playthrough, I guess.

G 03-11-2012 10:57 AM
I think I went too far with my "romance". Spoiler, I guess, "just in case"

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I was trying to do the nasty with Cortez, but I ended up kissing Liara on the Citadel. Does that mean my Cortez fantasy has been locked out? He is hanging by the bar (putting out the vibe) waiting for me to talk, but the option to click on him doesn't come up.


RoXer 03-11-2012 11:24 AM
Yup probably.

I'm a one woman kind of man unlike some of you deviants so I've been waiting for Ashley to be romanced but she hasn't yet and I think I'm near the end. Ive turned down everything that comes my way, reporters, aliens, gay dudes, doesn't matter. I'm staying faithful.

The old yeoman killed herself when I told her I was upset with her. Oops. I wasn't really that mad but I wasn't going to let her off easy. Oh well.

G 03-11-2012 11:37 AM
I'm sure you already know, but here is how it's done. Spoiler, I guess, "just in case"

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Ashley

  • Prerequisite: She must survive the events of ME1.
  • After the early events of the game, Ashley will spend time in the Huerta Memorial Hospital. Visit her between missions, choosing Paragon responses (Upper!) to show her interest.
  • Old romances from ME1 can be rekindled, or new Male Shepards can start fresh.
  • During the early conversations before her injury, make sure to choose the Paragon options as well.
  • Even when she’s unconscious in the Citadel, visit her and offer some kind words anyway. While there, you can purchase a special item, a Tennyson Collection, at the store terminal in the hospital lobby. You may have to wait until she’s awake to purchase and gift the special item.
  • Visit her; during your first trip to the Citadel, after the mission on Palaven, and a third time before finishing the Tuchanka missions. Afterwards, she’ll be ready to rejoin you.
  • After Tuchanka, and during the mission in the Citadel, you’ll want your trust high enough so Ashley will side with you during the ending confrontation.
  • If you were in another relationship in ME2, you’ll need to apologize and confirm that you’re interested in Ashley.
  • After she joins again, eventually she’ll offer to meet at the Presidium Commons. If she doesn’t push for a serious relationship, you can. With that, you’ll be well on your way to sealing the deal.

#BROKEN Hasney 03-11-2012 12:05 PM
Prerequisite: She must survive the events of ME1.

Shame. I was hoping you could romance her without that fact.

RoXer 03-11-2012 12:17 PM
Yeah I looked all that up after I posted.

I figured you would be able to sex her up before you get to the end, I was just getting worried because I (think) am almost there and she ain't lettin me put the moves on her
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Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3793377)
Prerequisite: She must survive the events of ME1.

Shame. I was hoping you could romance her without that fact.
I know

Swiss Ultimate 03-11-2012 12:35 PM
Let's pretend the Hitler videos are new and enjoy this.

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Also, since it looks like EDI survives I think I'm going to redo the ending with the synthesis version. I'm fairly certain I kill EDI, the Geth etc. if I don't do it this way.

ClockShot 03-11-2012 01:08 PM
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Lost Mordin this morning. Brought a tear to my eye, but it was he way he wanted to go out. Didn't send him to his death like Kaidan. :'(


Has anybody tried the online portion of the game yet? I mean, I got all the systems at 50%. I'm wondering if will that number go up in the story, or is it online only and fluctuate each time to start up the game?

Swiss Ultimate 03-11-2012 01:18 PM
You need to play multiplayer to get them to 100%.

Tommy Gunn 03-11-2012 02:50 PM
How much multiplayer are we talking? A couple of hours of hard work or several days grinding?

ClockShot 03-11-2012 02:57 PM
Dunno. Wandering around some gaming sites and everyone is in an uproar that Bioware said you can get all the achievements without having to step into online.

Either they lied or I'm not doing something right.

LoDownM 03-11-2012 03:09 PM
There's only 2 you can't get without the online mode. Not a huge deal.

Frank Drebin 03-11-2012 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3793220)

Long Rant with spoilers:

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Was slightly confused at the end. I knew I wanted to kill the Reapers, but wasn't real sure of which side to go to. Chose the red side and just started shooting. After the credits my body twitches...and some really bad actors pretend they just told the story that I played. Shep becomes a legend...but I'm not entirely clear as to whether he killed the Geth as collateral damage. I didn't want the Geth to die.

Also weird, I took my Prothean friend along with Garrus with me on the final mission. Figured we had a shot at living and I really like both characters. Later, when Joker finds himself in the path of a relatively tiny beam of energy and crash lands on some pretty jungle planet, the Prothean comes out of the ship along with Tali (Shep's love interest)...I saw all these people on Earth. Why are they suddenly on the ship???

I love the game, but there are definitely some signs that it was rushed here and there. That said, this is the only game where the cut-scenes actually matter to me. The climactic space battle was pretty fucking awesome, as was the assault on Earth. For those of you who've been to or live in London, do all the doors have that weird green hologram thing on them?? Also, do people talk like Admiral Anderson in England? I didn't peg his accent as anything but American. :/ He even rolled his eyes to the side when he mentioned for the second time that he was born in London.

Next time I play the end mission I'm going to go ahead and choose synthesis. Wanna see if they do a weird Akira ending. I feel like him choosing anything at the end is a bit silly, how would he know if he was under Reaper control? The option to control the Reapers just seemed a bit too...I dunno...evil?

I love the game, it has a shit-ton of improvements and the combat was fun. In ME2 I just tried to get it over with so that I could get to the next scene. This time I enjoyed the strategy of it. Would really have hated shouting out my commands, however. Using the wheel to have multiple things done in the fraction of a second is pretty much essential for my play style. Fucked that Ninja Dude's shit right up thanks to coordinated Overloads.

Was hoping that my decision to kill the Reapers would ultimately end with Shep alive and back on the Normandy sailing off into the "sunset" ala Star Trek. Maybe if I choose one of the other endings I'll be able to do that???

Anyways...craaaazy.
Finished it this morning and took some time to think about it.

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I agree with D2TS in that the combat was fun. Very fun. Cant say enough about how great the whole thing was, especially when it came to enemy AI. You're never going to make it perfect, but giving them survival instincts and flanking manuevers was pretty cool.

The story was about as well done as you could have asked for up until the ending which Ill get to in a moment. It added the proper gravity to the final chapter of games which are as large scale as a game has ever tried been.

The ending.....sucked. So, after all the decisions we have made over the span of three games (five years in real time), none of it really mattered?!? When it comes to the actual ending it never really mattered if I killed the Rachni Queen, killed Wrex, who I romanced, sold Legion to Cerberus, etc. Ill play through with my renegade Shep soon and while I'm sure to find discrepancies, its this that ruins it for me. Not to mention all the endings to each final choice are almost excactly the same. The good thing about that is it tells me that DLC is in the works that might clear the air on this, which works for me (save for the wait) but will piss alot of people off.

Until then, 3 or 4 of my crew (out of all the characters in the game I encountered) who magically made it back to the Normandy after the final battle are stranded in a jungle on a planet that may or may not be in this galaxy never to be able to rebuild society due to a lack of populace, and I am left hoping that the breath Shep *might* take at the end is him waking up and realizing the last 20 mins of the game was all just a dream. Yes, thats what I'm hoping for because the ending sucked that bad to me.

Swiss Ultimate 03-11-2012 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy Gunn (Post 3793461)
How much multiplayer are we talking? A couple of hours of hard work or several days grinding?
To max out readiness? Maybe 4-6 hours as long as you win 90% of the time...I could be off drastically though. I played multiplayer for fun myself. I don't think it'd be several days though...


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Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 3793464)
Dunno. Wandering around some gaming sites and everyone is in an uproar that Bioware said you can get all the achievements without having to step into online.

Either they lied or I'm not doing something right.
What LoDown said, although, it seems like multiplayer is important for galactic readiness.

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Originally Posted by LoDownM (Post 3793478)
There's only 2 you can't get without the online mode. Not a huge deal.
Yeah.

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Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 3793611)
Finished it this morning and took some time to think about it.

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I agree with D2TS in that the combat was fun. Very fun. Cant say enough about how great the whole thing was, especially when it came to enemy AI. You're never going to make it perfect, but giving them survival instincts and flanking manuevers was pretty cool.

The story was about as well done as you could have asked for up until the ending which Ill get to in a moment. It added the proper gravity to the final chapter of games which are as large scale as a game has ever tried been.

The ending.....sucked. So, after all the decisions we have made over the span of three games (five years in real time), none of it really mattered?!? When it comes to the actual ending it never really mattered if I killed the Rachni Queen, killed Wrex, who I romanced, sold Legion to Cerberus, etc. Ill play through with my renegade Shep soon and while I'm sure to find discrepancies, its this that ruins it for me. Not to mention all the endings to each final choice are almost excactly the same. The good thing about that is it tells me that DLC is in the works that might clear the air on this, which works for me (save for the wait) but will piss alot of people off.

Until then, 3 or 4 of my crew (out of all the characters in the game I encountered) who magically made it back to the Normandy after the final battle are stranded in a jungle on a planet that may or may not be in this galaxy never to be able to rebuild society due to a lack of populace, and I am left hoping that the breath Shep *might* take at the end is him waking up and realizing the last 20 mins of the game was all just a dream. Yes, thats what I'm hoping for because the ending sucked that bad to me.
I hope so too. I don't mind my ending, it makes sense for the character I was playing. My Shep was pretty much a boyscout. However, I couldn't imagine a renegade Shep doing those things.

Frank Drebin 03-11-2012 08:52 PM
I just watched the Hitler vid, DTTS. Its dead on with how I feel right now.

Swiss Ultimate 03-11-2012 10:09 PM
I figured Tali and Shep would have dirty hot sex on the Quarian homeworld at least once.

Emperor Smeat 03-11-2012 10:57 PM
Some new info regarding the "From Ashes" DLC pack since it provides about 30-40 minutes of extra playing time but is also heavily padded in file size.

The pack itself is around 628MB in size but based on people who hacked the PC version of the game, its real size is around 6MB. The rest is just padding or repeated files to make people think not everything was actually on the disc. Also confirmed to be just a few voices and dialog files for the extra member of the crew.

Swiss Ultimate 03-11-2012 11:01 PM
Weird. Maybe it's a patch as well or is it confirmed that the majority of it is just junk?

Gonzo 03-12-2012 03:32 AM
If anyone is on PC and wants to play multiplayer I have a couple other friends I play with most nights. PM me and we can get you in as our 4th. We use Skype while we play over the in game voip.

Tommy Gunn 03-12-2012 08:23 AM
I tried multiplayer and it was quite fun actually, so when you max out your galaxy at war stats, is that forever on your save file? You can use the war assets earned in any subsequent single player run-throughs?

#BROKEN Hasney 03-12-2012 10:19 AM
Ending shizz

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The theory that's flying about that I want to believe is that everything after the reaper hits you is a hallucination. It makes sense, both endings are the same anyway and once you get the perfect ending, Shepard is seen to breathe in the rubble of London.

I say wanting to believe, but that is only from a creative standpoint. If they royally fucked up that ending purely to get extra DLC bucks with DLC that changes the ending will be utter bullshit and I'll watch it on YouTube rather than pay for their shitty money grab.

Frank Drebin 03-12-2012 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3793880)
Ending shizz

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The theory that's flying about that I want to believe is that everything after the reaper hits you is a hallucination. It makes sense, both endings are the same anyway and once you get the perfect ending, Shepard is seen to breathe in the rubble of London.

I say wanting to believe, but that is only from a creative standpoint. If they royally fucked up that ending purely to get extra DLC bucks with DLC that changes the ending will be utter bullshit and I'll watch it on YouTube rather than pay for their shitty money grab.
You know thats what this is about.

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I'm gonna be a sucka and buy it though. If it gives an ending to my shep I have to get it. Thats why this ending sucked. Not just all the plotholes, but the fact that it didnt matter what I did. If thats their plan, they need to get this out soon before people stop caring and write this waste of time off as a loss.

#BROKEN Hasney 03-12-2012 11:18 AM
Mildest spoiler you can imagine about the last mission, but I've annoyed people for pointing out mundane shit before, so I'll be nice.

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I do love how everything is wrecked in London apart from Big Ben so you can say "OH SHIT, IT IS LONDON

Swiss Ultimate 03-12-2012 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommy Gunn (Post 3793857)
I tried multiplayer and it was quite fun actually, so when you max out your galaxy at war stats, is that forever on your save file? You can use the war assets earned in any subsequent single player run-throughs?
I think so. Which is convenient.

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Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3793880)
Ending shizz

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The theory that's flying about that I want to believe is that everything after the reaper hits you is a hallucination. It makes sense, both endings are the same anyway and once you get the perfect ending, Shepard is seen to breathe in the rubble of London.

I say wanting to believe, but that is only from a creative standpoint. If they royally fucked up that ending purely to get extra DLC bucks with DLC that changes the ending will be utter bullshit and I'll watch it on YouTube rather than pay for their shitty money grab.
I'm going to buy the DLC no matter what. Guessing there will be some DLC regarding:

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Omega. I mean come on, we don't get to see the Asari Godmother VS. Cerberus?

As for the theory that it's all just a dream, it's a rather specific dream to have. My problem with this, however, is that I assumed he was still on the citadel when his body convulsed at the end. Rubble is rubble, after all. I would be okay with this ending being real minus the stupid Normandy crashing on a distant planet, hope that's just bullshit since it makes no sense at all. I just want my decisions to have mattered for something and I have gotten the feeling that many of my decisions didn't matter at all. Killed Wrex? Pretty sure the other dude would have been there. Killed the Racchni? Don't worry, you didn't kill all of them. Brain-washed the Geth heretics? Oh...well, the Reapers brain-washed them back, and no matter what you did the Quarians are going to start a fucking war while the Reapers destroy the Galaxy...

Fryza 03-12-2012 04:00 PM
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Pretty sure everyone on the Citadel is dead, which Aria was on.

Kane Knight 03-12-2012 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3793717)
Weird. Maybe it's a patch as well or is it confirmed that the majority of it is just junk?
Considering the statement that Bioware made is already half-false considering how much of the stuff is on-disc, I'd say it's probably not a patch.

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Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3793880)
Ending shizz
I'm not sure I've ever seen this much posthumous epileptic tree-ing before. It's kinda fun, actually. It's still just conspiracy theories by fans looking desperately to embrace something other than what they've been given, but hey....

This'll tide me over until the next 3 seconds of GTA footage leads to the next 40,000 points of speculation.

Swiss Ultimate 03-12-2012 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Fryza (Post 3794096)
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Pretty sure everyone on the Citadel is dead, which Aria was on.
I find it hard to believe actually.

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Someone had to survive or escape.

Swiss Ultimate 03-12-2012 07:40 PM
http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i...nwXkCmJ-XL.jpg

Fryza 03-13-2012 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3794195)
I find it hard to believe actually.

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Someone had to survive or escape.
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In the synthesis ending, the Citadel does explode. On top of that, the halls are a literal bloody mess. It's also likely Reaper forces were on the Citadel when it was moved.

I hope not everyone died, but I think it could easily be assumed they did.

Swiss Ultimate 03-13-2012 02:48 AM
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I get that the Reapers are the baddest motherfuckers on the planet, but before as I've seen from cut-scenes as well as play, they're not perfect. If the Alliance could survive for weeks after the initial invasion assault, Capt. Bailey and friends could have organized a retreat. Look at who was on the Citadel before Shep went on his mission: Aria, Zaeed, Bailey, shit-tons of Krogan, Turians, Batarians and refugees from all over the Galaxy not to mention Alliance forces, Council forces, Mercs. I'm not saying they'd win against a full assault by the Reapers, but they should at least put up a decent fight.

We'll know eventually what happened. Hoping it'll be DLC or something where it'll allow you to play as Aria or Zaeed or someone interesting. Would be an interesting story as far as the mobster teaming up with the "Chief of Police" along with the world's most angry merc.

Fryza 03-13-2012 03:07 AM
Really hope so.

Swiss Ultimate 03-13-2012 03:19 AM
I have to wonder what kind of ending people would have been happy with. My issue with my ending isn't that it wasn't good, I thought it was very good. I just wish my decisions mattered. If I had gotten this exact ending because of things I did in ME2 I would be satisfied and there would be a lot more replay value.

Still enjoying the multiplayer though. Played it all night.

LoDownM 03-13-2012 04:44 AM
I would've like my decisions in past games to matter more, seems like the only the ones that matter in the slightest is weather or not Ashely or Kaiden died in ME1 and how you handled Tali's loyalty mission in ME2.

As for the ending sucking. It's not so much that it sucked, as it is there isn't any closure. It's supposed to be the end of Shepard's story/series. They could've done some text summaries ala Dragon Age to explain what happens to your companions/rest of the galaxy
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with the mass relays getting destroyed regardless of your ending, it would be nice to now what happens with the other species in the galaxy.


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