reply 1000 :shifty:

also, this young Rossi kid we signed is supposedly looking awesome in our reserves :love:

I think Jay Bothroyd scored about 3 goals in 25 games for Perugia. Whether you would consider that kind of record great or not, who knows?

As for Manchester United, I think Scholes and Giggs will go back to their original positions, and it'll be as simple as that. Rooney and Smith will take over from them playing off the front man of either Saha or Van Nistelrooy.

all you need to know about jay bothroyds goal history:

http://www.soccerage.com/en/07/19613.html

Rooney is good at Free kicks and that'll help United too. The fake Ronaldo's free kicks arent bad either. Similar to what ECG said, I think Rooney will take long shots and Nistelrooy will tap in what ever the keeper spills or other rebounds. I can't see Rooney playing as much as the other three this season to be honest, as RvN is still tricking people into believing he is good, Smith has a great work rate and is loved by the fans, so out of Saha and Rooney I think Rooney will play less because he is still young and needs more practice before being good enough for the United team. I am aware that he was the man in Portugal 04 but it doesn't mean much IMO, as Fergie will want him to gradually settle in, unlike at Everton where they needed hi to play the whole time, theres no rush at United.

Take a look at how many goals Manchester United score without Ruud Van Nistelrooy playing, to many they score when he does.

Dazz, his goal scoring rate speaks for itself. Simple as that.

I think Rooney will force himself into being played, simply because he's a fucking brilliant player. Manchester United have made a big signing there. I don't think we realise right now what an effect Rooney will have on the overall attitude of the side.

But do you not think Rooney will need time to settle in? He is not going to be on fire straigh away, I can see Fergie playing others more then him this season, he is more there for next season and beyond, and they pretty much had to sign him now to ensure that no one else did.

And as I have always said, if RvN was as good as people say, he would be able to score from outside the six yard box, apart from penalties. Nistelrooy does the old tap in routine pretty well which is why him and Rooney will be good together.

His goal against Fulham, where he ran from the halfway line? His goal against West Ham, where he skinned a couple of men, then swung it in the top corner from the edge of the box with the outside of his foot?

Anyway, it's irrelevant. There are great goalscorers and scorers of great goals. Van Nistelrooy is a great goalscorer. It doesn't matter how good they are, he is there to score them, which is a talent in and of itself.

The only thing is, I don't really want to see Alan Smith out of the side after the start he made for us.

You'll be here all night trying to convince Mental Mantle that RVN is a good player.

And Saha has hardly done anything wrong, bar being crippled half of the time either.

Alan Smith won't be out of the side. The thing is, Van Nistelrooy is the only one amongst them you'd call a pure striker. I don't think Smith is best leading the line on his own, and he'll be even better when he's allowed to drop off a front man, pull wide and generally put in the leg work.

Saha can play out wide, too, as an attacker, with his pace and two-footed abilities. Rooney is an excellent option, something not many teams have. A player who links midfield and attack brilliantly. Scholes doesn't really fit that role, for me. He's better in the central midfield, joining the attack.

apparently this young Rossi kid we just signed in the summer picked up on the edge of the area, past 3 and scored off the post with his weak foot.

I might wander down to watch the reserves play sometime. I can afford that, at least.

Apparently Lee Martin, the kid signed from Wimbledon, is something special too. Never seen him play, considering he's 16 or 17. They paid £1 million for him, though, so he must be alright.

We have signed kids for huge money before and they barely broke into the first team.

Like who? How many 16 year olds have you signed for £1 million? Bear in mind, 16 year olds who haven't broken into a club side regularly at any level.

Greame Tomlinson and Daniel Nardiello just to name two. If a player isn't playing for a club at any level then he ain't a player.

Hasn't broken into a club's side, I said, at any level. He's not ben a first team regular.

And I'm pretty sure Nardiello came through United's youth system. Not sure about Tomlinson.

Added to that, Nardiello isn't exactly past it.

Nardiello came from Wolves. Kirky will back that up.

Tomlinson cost us like £500,000 and never got a first team game. Think he was from Luton or Bradford.

Nardiello isn't past it. But I never said he was.

You said that players you've paid big money for haven't become first team regulars.

But anyway, Lee Martin is supposedly an excellent prospect. Sought after by a lot of the top clubs.

Sorry I must have missed when they became first teamers. And what I actually said was we have paid big money for kids who have barely broke the first team. There's a difference.

Right, I understand that, but it's not like they're so old that they still might not break into the first team.

So anyway is Rooney going to allow Man U to challenge Arsenal?????

I would say yes to challenging more effectively...

But Arsenal are still better.

Nardiello was poached :rant:

http://www.football365.com/mediastor...rooneyruud.jpg

:lol:

I would say Ferdinand will be more crucial to United challenging than Rooney will. But that's just me.

like nobody saw the donkey and shrek thing coming.

I take more pleasure in all the ABU's who must have bought a red england shirt with Rooney on the back during Euro 2004 though.

Calm down Mask one might think you were peeved over something

If there's one word to describe my mood right now, peeved is it :mad:

:shifty:

apparently Rooney has some behaviour clause in his contract too, so if he does anything to embaress the club, we can fine him more than the maximum 2 weeks wages or whatever.

The goal that started with an elbow ;) and he still had to run to the six yard box, and the one against West Ham was inside the box, but I cant remember it too well though. Fact remains, if he was as good as people say he is, then he would be able to do more then tap a ball in and take a good penalty.

Never said it wasn't a talent, just saying it isn't as big a talent is people would make you think, bearing in mind the team does 99% of the work for him.

That is why I think Nistelrooy tricks people into thinking he is a great player, because people remember the goalscorer, not who set up the goals.

Examples: Chelsea beat Manchester United 1-0, Alexei Smertin was BY FAR Chelsea's best player, but he didn't get man of the match, Eidur Gudjohnsen did, anyone watching the match will tell you that apart from the goal he did nothing.

When Manchester United played Millwall in the F.A Cup final, RvN got man of the match because he scored a penalty and a tap in, Ronaldo was clearly Man Of The Match, and played much better.

Those are just two examples off the top of my head, the point is, people remember the goalscores and thats why people think RvN is better then he is.

the FA cup was just because Sven is a clueless wanker. Just about everyone on earth thought Ronaldo was man of the match.

:yes: yet he's still the manager of the national team :nono:

Ruud does his job, he's paid to put the ball in the net and he does it. Bernie Slaven is a legend in middlesbrough and he was the tap in king!

i agree with the fact people dont remember the creator of the goals but the simple fact is if the person who hadnt put it in the net hadnt put it in the net then there may not have been a goal.

a forwards job is to score goals RvN does that. Terry Henry is a hell of a better player tho as he plays for the team but still gets the goals.

I used to think in the same way as Dazz on RvN but then i remembered Gary Lineker was pretty much the same and he's a legend, in Leicester if not all of England.Sort of the same point that Doink made really.

You do realise that sponsor's choice for MoM are always bullshit? No one actually pays any attention to them. Except you, obviously.

What about Van Nistelrooy's goal against Arsenal, where he skinned Sol Campbell, and took the ball into the box to chip it over the keeper? Didn't have to do much for that one either?

Van Nistelrooy is an all round great player. He's not Thierry Henry, but few players are. He's a pure striker, big and strong, and perfect for other attacking players to play off. I can only think you haven't actually played football yourself, Dazz, if you can't understand the benefits of a big man up front with brilliant technique and the ability to hold a ball up and link the play. His movement off the ball is also excellent, floating between defenders and straying into offside positions where they can't see him, only to come back on again before the ball is played to him.

Added to that, the amount of goals he gets, and you've got one of the best strikers in the world today.

And being there to tap them in is a talent in itself.

Every Chelsea striker is better than RVN.

Last time I checked, just because you don't score 20 yarders, that doesn't mean you can't. Goals win games. 1 yard header or 55 yard shots. They all count for the same if they hit the net.

Ruud is quality, He scores goals domestically, in europe and at international level at a very impressive rate.

:wtf: only time will tell on that one.

RvN is one of those players you either love or hate, i hate him myself and think he drifts in & out of games to often but thats my opinion, however saying that my cousin always ask what i think of him i say crap, so he reverses the question and says and if he played for boro? i always say he'd be a legend because he scores goals.

my main problem with him is that he plays for man u and always seems to score against us, same reason i hate pires at arsenal as he always scores against us :mad:

anyway ive seen games where RvN scores in the six yard box, runs with the ball half of the pitch and takes it into six yard box and scores. ive seen him let the ball drop over his shoulder, control it then leather it past keepers only needing two touches. my point is he does his job and there are plenty of teams who would take him if he became available - including chelsea!

he will be up there with the top scorers again this year at the end of the season but i think this year will see reyes top the scoring charts!

to change the subject el tel is in talks with newcastle to become their new manager !

Even as a Liverpool fan, I have to say Van Nistelrooy is quality, everyone knows his faults (except the United fans obviously) but at the end of the day, he is in the top 5 penalty box strikers in the world, and that is what matters.

Also, about Rooney.

All I have to say is, wait and see, he's still got to prove himself in the Premiership, he's young and has all the potential in the world, its just a matter of him living up to it in the league, where it'll matter the most.

By the way, can I just say how "pleasant" it is to see all the United fans regaining the usual cockiness, I wondered where it had gone for a while

Wow, you didn't even read what I wrote, why don't you reply once you've read it.

It was Sky's choice for Eidur Gudjohnsen not Orange's.

I've played at centre back and up front in football, admittedly at no level higher then sunday league though, and I don't think your right about your big guy theory. Jimmy and Eidur were a great partnership and neither of them are tall or used to hold off defenders. Whilst RvN uses his strength to his advantage, he doesn't even do it fairly, anyone that watches a game he's in knows that.

I agree about the coming from an offside position, that is about the only thing that I think he is good at doing, he uses the rules to his advantage on that one.

And I've never denied he gets alot of goals, I just don't see why people cream themselves over him where he barely does anything more then tap the ball in. Until he got lazy, I'd always rather have Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink in my team, because anyone who can score 33 goals in all competitions for a team that gets relegated, proves that he has to do alot of it for himself when his team mates were shit. IMO until RvN does more for himself, he will never be one of the best strikers in the world. You can use statistics to prove anything, just because he scores lot of goals doesn't make him good, IMO it makes his team mates good.

What about the fact that the rate of goals scored per match by United, effectively doubles when Ruud Van Nistelrooy is on the pitch? If his team mates were that good, surely it wouldn't matter which striker they had on the pitch?

So obviously Van Nistelrooy contributes a lot more to the game than simply rounding off the moves.

And Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is a fucking tank. His whole game is holding off defenders with his fat arse.

I could almost garuntee that that statistic changes this season, your forgetting that for years he has been their only good striker, now they have four good ones we'll see what difference he makes.

Hasselbaink never really tried to hold off players, he preferred to moan to the ref as soon as someone even breathed on him.

Ruud is a quality striker. He is the perfect penalty box striker since he gets the goals and his postioning is top draw. He aslo contributes to the rest of the team through his hold up play. And when he gets a half chance he will usually put the ball in the back of the net.

I can (sort of) agree with part of Dazz's argument re: the quality of service...pretty much any striker playing for Man U will score more goals than if they were playing in most other teams (except Forlan :o ) simply because they create a lot of good chances.

Van Nistelrooy is just a different type of striker to say Henry, Shearer, Owen etc. To be honest he reminds me a fair bit of Ian Wright in the way he seems to be in the right place at the right time.

:wtf: ive watched him play for us this season so far and he doesnt need to hold off the defenders as he drifts inbetween attack and midfield. he is always looking for ball to feet and one two's. he was brilliant aginst palace with the way he was talking to the players around him, telling them where to go what to do etc (and not in a bad way) the way he is linking up with downing is looking very promising.

the free kick he scored was brillint, two steps and bang top corner, but before it was took he was distracting the defenders by telling viduka and southgate where to make runs so he could aim for them.

:love: Jimmy Floyd Hasselaink :love: id get his name on my shirt if they didnt charge by the letter :mad:

RVN is quality.

Though the quality of service he gets is impeccable.

He is a great goalscorer and is a worldclass finisher but is not as good as say...I dunno...Henry :)

Middlesbrough defender Franck Queudrue has been handed a new contract.

:love: :D :love:

unfortunatly for any irish peopl out there he doesnt qualify as it was his great grand parents who were irish. apparently the rules have chaged and it has to be grandparents or under.

what ever happened to the rule about if you drink guiness you can play for them ?

Quite happy with Scotland tonight. Definately held our own against Spain until the money in the electric meter ran out.

predictions for tonights match, i'm going for england to win 3-1

COME ON ENGLAND

:love:

thus far I bet ECG is happy with Ireland, not bad so far.

:mad: david fucking useless twat james lets us down again :mad:

he wasnt the only one as the whole midfield just seemed to stop playing

Wrong thread

Fifa have ordered Le Havre to hand over Charles N'Zogbia's registration to Newcastle and he is now free to play for us :cool:

sorry didnt realise there was one for world cup qualifiers, any james is still shit!

Newcastle have confirmed souness will become their new manager after saturdays game.

unfortunatly i think that is a good move and he will do well :mad: i wanted them to appoint shearer and then laugh when it didnt work!

The thing that pisses me off about the whole Newcastle thing is that Robson has been criticised by Sheppard for wasting money signing Bassedas and Viana, yet Souness has made like one decent signing for Blackburn in two years - Jonathan Stead. All the other players he signed built up a good reputation for themselves, but haven't lived up to it for one reason or another e.g. Ferguson, Emerton, Reid etc

Ferguson suffered a bad injury and Reid is just one massive injury. Emerton has been average but I wouldn't say the wasted money on him as he plays to a competant level.

Viana, Bassedas, Marcelino were all absolute shite who hardly ever played. Souness has won silverware with blackburn of all teams.

He's a big character and I'm looking forward to seeing if he can make the newcastle squad start achieving like they should.

Shearer shouldn't be guaranteed a starting berth as he's a grandad. Bellamy and Kliuvert should be up front

Souness may have won silverware with teams in the past, and his achievement with Blackburn is the most impressive of all the clubs and trophies he's won, but he's not got a good reputation of signing the right players.

I know what's happened to Ferguson and Reid, but Emerton was supposedly an awesome player who hasn't lived up to the potential, and Yorke and Cole didn't work out as well as expected. I'm pretty certain that Marcelinho was a Gullit signing though and Robson shouldn't be blamed for that.

Souness has done reasonably well at most of the clubs he's managed, but the success he had at Rangers was expected, to win at least a trophy at Liverpool 12 years ago was obligitary and almost a certainty, and Blackburn are a wealthy club considering the millions invested through Jack Walker and his estate after he passed away.

Yeah I seem to remember Marcelino being at Newcastle before Robson as well :o Fair point on Viana and Bassedas though. Not to mention Bramble, Carl Cort (:love: ), Acuna, and a few others :$

but can anyone seriously name a manager that hasnt made a bad signing ?

i'm not a blackburn or a newcastle fan so i dont know alot about behind the scene stuff for them however i think souness will have more money available for signings and he wont have to look to 30year old + players to make a team and no disrespect to blackburn but i think players would pick newcastle if they had the choice.

Thank you Graham Souness, now if anybody else goes near Dave O'Leary I will rape them.

Souness helped to ruin Liverpool, let's see what he does at Newcastle.Some of the signings he made with us were stupid, remember Torben Piknik or whatever. Even though the stress did get to him and he nearly lost his life because of the job.
I don't rate Souness too highly as a manager, probably because I'm bitter but he's only really achieved at Rangers in the early nineties and that isn't saying much.

If I remember correctly, we had an easy route to the final where we played Sunderland, who at the time were in Division 1(or was it still 2 then?).

It's more a case of a manager having a good ratio of good to crap signings.

It was still 2 then. I believe Liverpool played Pompey in the Semi's and only got through on penalties

Yeah, we were the absolute pits under Souness, took us from titie contenders to nothing in the space of 2 years, we haven't recovered (bar 2 seasons) since

Yeah it's all his fault. How many millions have you spent since then?

I'd have Souness any day.

Well, I'm glad you're not David Gill then.

No, its not all his fault, I'm just pointing out that he was a sh</>it manager, and things haven't got any better.

Don't get me wrong, I love Souness for the passion he has for the game, he was fantastic for Liverpool as a player, but his managerial skills leave a lot to be desired, and lets face it, he's hardly the guy to unite a dressing room full of egos is he?

The appointment of Graeme Souness was a strange one to say the least. On the positive side he will certainly give Dyer and the rest of his bling crew the kick up the arse they deserve for the way they disrespected Bobby. On the other hand his dodgy transfer record and history of falling out with players fills me with horror. Hopefully Freddie won't let him spend much money (we only really need to be improving the defence for now anyway). I hope he is not gonna stunt the development of Steven Taylor and Matty Pattison.

What really gets me about this though is the involvement of Pro Active. It's quite clear Freddie Shepherd is doing what's best for himself and his family instead of the club, the bloody crooked fat cunt. Freddie's son works for Pro Active and so he has got a chunk of the money from this. All the players we sign seem to be in some way linked to Pro Active. I wish the FA would look into this and put an end to it immediately. It's also rumoured the reason we got Nicky Butt so cheaply was part of some conspiracy that we were helping them to get Wayne Rooney by probing his availability for Man Utd to come in and get him.

Marcelinho was a Gullit signing by the way and so was Dyer. Viana is still a good player, just Bobby kinda wrecked him by not playing him, and so he never adapted to the pace of the Premiership. With Souness in charge I don't think Viana will be coming back from his loan spell with Sporting Lisbon.

<a href="http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=126280"/>Soccer AM on DVD</a> :cool:

About time too. Wish it was a boxset or something though :$

You seriously think I'd have Souness over Ferguson?

no, but when ferguson retires, i don't want souness anywhere near the club.

Neither do I. He already managed Liverpool. Any other team, I'd take him though.

I still wouldn't. skaus or not.

Just got back from Venice so i'll just say...

WTF Souness.

Saw this in my hotel room and thought it was some prank :(. Came out of the blue thats for sure.

The thing is he's probs the best we could have hoped for. Allardyce, Mclaren, Bruce all tied down/too loyal (delete as appropriate) or throwing Shearer in at the deep end or having that tosser Venables.

Its sad when we have to settle for the 2nd/3rd/4th best.

Its always gonna happen when you sack people a few games into the season, managers want to stay loyal after charimen splashed out on summer signings leaving with you with people already out of a job.

I don't have high hopes but hopefully he'l prove me wrong.

Villa 0 - Chelsea 0. Fiar result we'd more of the ball but Chelsea looked a little more dangerous at times not a great game but a point will do us.

Definite penalty though don't you think :p.

But yeah fair result barring that.

Leeds beat Coventry 3 - 0. Come on you jobbers...

Last month Red Issue caught up with a little known figure from United’s past. Ex-player, Johnny ‘Johnny’ Moston spoke for the first time about what life was like at Manchester United during the inter-war years and the hardships some of our older players had to contend with.

“I was brought up in a tiny terraced house on the outskirts of Salford in a mining village which was so deprived the local Corporation wouldn’t even name it. Lots of footballers had hailed from our village and it was said that if you shouted down a pit shaft, a footballer or a fast bowler would come up (I can never remember which!).


“We played our football in a narrow cobbled street. Far too poor to afford an actual football, or even a bunch of rags tied together, we played “air” football. I was a keen lad and when all the other boys had gone off round the back alley to talk to the girls, I was still kicking my air football against the wall of the alleyway until I could time each shot or header to perfection and was equally strong with both feet.


“I wasn’t the brightest tool in the picnic basket and having failed to secure an apprenticeship down the pit or on the railway there was only one alternative – Manchester United. Crying my eyes out, I was dragged by my dad to Old Trafford and he left me in the capable hands of Ex-Lance-Corporal Davies (who we called Lance Corporal Davies for short). He was a fitness fanatic who had us running up and down the terraces all day. We never saw a football at all. To toughen us up he made us run through the Stretford End toilets while he fired mustard gas, smoke bombs and sometimes even live rounds at us.


“We had such a Spartan training regime that the fact that I’d still never seen a real football didn’t come to light until my debut for the Reserves against Blackburn Rovers in 1919. The Manchester Guardian remarked: ‘In the first half, Moston’s mazy off-the-ball dribbles puzzled the small crowd. The referee was also forced to book him for ungentlemanly conduct for making persistent “crowd” noises. In the second half, Moston re-emerged from the dressing-room sporting a black eye, and managed to get his foot in a few times.” In recent years, when watching Luke Chadwick, I think I can see a little of my former self.


“It was with great anticipation that I entered the 1st team dressing room. I was immediately introduced by captain Nobby Entwistle to the rest of the team. They were a mixture of cheery local Manchester lads, dour Scots, talkative Irish, dark, squat Welsh and of course the token cheeky Cockney. The recipe for just about every United team ever since. They were salt of the earth - a grand bunch of lads who would take anything from you


“Everybody ribbed the cockney, Alfie “Cockney” Wedge! He wore his shorts a full half an inch shorter than the rest of us, used Brylcreem and had a silver-plate bell on his push-bike with its own special ring.


“The years following the Great War were difficult for United. Financially it got so bad that you daren’t leave your bike outside Old Trafford in case management raffled it. We looked on with envy at Manchester City, who during the whole of United’s 30-odd year slump had bagged the princely haul of an FA Cup and the First Division! At the end of the 2nd World War, large crowds flocked back to football. Because of the unfortunate bombing incident at Old Trafford, we were forced to play at Maine Road but soon started to draw bigger crowds than our landlords.


“While I should by now have been in the twilight of my career, I instead hit my peak. I perfected what was known as the “Moston Dribble.” This consisted of my shuffling down the wing with the ball at slow speed, walking the ball round the keeper and into the net.


“Disaster followed though! An official from the FA was listening to the match on the wireless when the commentator said: ‘It’s almost as if Moston has got the ball tied to his boot’. An expert panel was convened, listened to the wireless commentary many times over at slow speed and found that I had, indeed, tied the ball to my boot. I was the first player ever to be convicted on radio evidence. I was fined thruppence and banned for the next six matches. The good news though was that I was back a month later for the FA Cup Final against Blackpool.


“I well remember the feeling as we bicycled up Wembley Way. We wound our way through 100,000 people dressed identically in caps, coats, and mufflers. We got changed in the dressing room but then in the tunnel a calamity occurred! I ‘accidentally’ bumped into Bert Nazi, Blackpool’s German goalkeeper. I was never too keen on the Germans, blaming them for the tragic loss of my father in the first ‘shout’. Words were exchanged, and Bert pulled a Luger from his knickerbockers and shot me in the kneecap. With no substitutes allowed the trainer could only douse my wounded knee in Dubbin and I bravely carried on, even providing a vital assist for United’s winning goal.


“After the game, an operation resulted in one of my legs being two inches shorter than the other. Mr. Busby took me to one side at the pre-season trials and gently explained that he was letting me go on a pension of 10 bob and an ounce of rolling tobacco a week.


“Of course these days it’s all about money. It makes me weep when I read about David Beckham’s chauffeur earning more in a single lunchtime than I earned in a lifetime’s service to the game. Unlike these modern-day namby-pambies we played the proper game of Association Football.


“Take the balls they use today: coated in plastic and weighing less than a balloon! In our day, when those old leather balls with stitching used to get wet, it was like heading a lump of concrete. Never did us any harm. Where was I again…..oh yes fixture congestion.


“These days, they moan like mad when they have to play more than once a fortnight. In our day, it was quite common to play six times a week, I was only excused a seventh because I was opening batsman for Lancashire. I remember playing against Salford Lads in the Manchester Senior Cup in the morning and then cycling to Wembley to play in the FA Cup Final. That very evening I was back in my local hostelry, captaining the winning skittles team!


“In fact, we nearly always cycled to away games and matches were never postponed because of bad weather. On one occasion there was so much snow on the pitch that our “goalie” Charlie Beswick made a snowman in the goalmouth and had a cheeky fag behind the goal, while the crowd sang ‘White Christmas’.


“Nevertheless, we still didn’t go down like a sack of spuds when tackled and then have six weeks off to recover. It was quite common to play on with broken legs, broken backs and even when clinically dead. Old Albert Holt had a fatal stroke on the pitch at Burnden Park, but still managed to ghost through and score the winner in a thrilling 9-8 win.


“There was always the odd whiff of scandal of course. I was once asked to throw a match against Liverpool for £10 guineas – a small fortune in those days! I bought a box of Bryant & May and when the time came struck a match and threw it at Tommy Scouser as he came running down the wing with the ball. Quick as a flash he whipped out a Woodbine (which most players tucked behind their ear for half-time in those days) lit it and blew smoke rings, while the crowd spontaneously burst into ‘Smoke Gets in Your Eyes’. Oh, those were the days…


“Of course, all the players were characters, not like today’s pre-Maradonas. Oh how we laughed as skipper Nobby Entwistle did his impressions of George Formby (or was it Gracie Fields?)! And whenever old Bobby Dazzler set off down the wing, he would always enliven his dribbles with either a Max Wall or Nat Jackley funny walk, while the crowd sang ‘Where Did You Get That Hat?’


“And so came the sad day when I finally had to hang my boots up at the ripe old age of 49! In those days players didn’t just go off and become managers, who were mostly military types who’d done their bit in the war. For a while I tried scouting, but after an unfortunate incident with a Wolf-Cub’s woggle, I had to give that up too. Nevertheless, I’ve stayed involved in football on a part-time basis and can claim to have ‘discovered’ some of the best of them, including Pele, whom I spotted playing for Droylsden Old Pals.”


Johnny ‘Johnny’ Moston will be signing copies of his autobiography next week between 10–11am in the lounge of Prestwich Nursing Home.

lol wtf at Cahill's sending off.

Ridiculous.

Chester won today:love:

LEEDS :love:

First time I saw it I thought the player got the ball first, and Drogba has been going down easy in other matches so I don't really blame the ref. It was Mourinho's fault.

I always maintained that Mark Halsey is a terrible ref.

No ref worth his salt reverses his decisions.

Also, :lol: @ Ashley Cole having a go at the ref for not giving Henry a penalty

I couldn't believe what I was seeing last night. I swear I thought it was the drink playing games with me. Absolutely awful referees.

Is D'Urso back in the Premier League yet?

Don't think so.

But his spirit lives on.

<font color=white>ARG-EN-TINA! ARG-EN-TINA! ARG-EN-TINA! ARG-EN-TINA! :D </font>

<font color=white>My Grunts and Groans for this weekend:
1. Mark Halsey
2. Mikael Silvestre
3. Hearing Joleon Lescott being called 'Julien' Lescott for the 2nd straight week

The objects of my affection this weekend:
1. Portsmouth (How fun are they to watch?)
2. Cristiano Ronaldo
3. Ruud's back!
4. Dion Dublin and Tony Popovic's goals
5. Beckham's Free Kick
6. And finally, ARG-EN-TINA's finest, Gabriel Heinze!! http://www.manutdpics.com/previewima...89&mediatype=2 </font>

<font color=white>Speroni's a bloody good keeper</font>

:lol:

Followed Dundee for 20 years, my old man has followed them for 45+ and his dad even longer and I don't think any of us have heard any Dundee fan consider Speroni the best Dundee keeper ever. Most don't even consider him better than Rab Douglas!

He is good. But good is about it.

He was shite yesterday.

And a few weeks before.

Agreed.

Who the f</>uck did that? :rant: :mad:

Oh well, at least Wigan didn't cane us like I expected :o Would be nice if we could F</>UCKING DEFEND though.

I have always said this, and I will keep saying it, Mark Halsey is the worst ref in the Premiership, the guy is a joke, he sent of Cudicini against 'Boro when Windass pushed him into his goal :|, He mistook Melchiot for Hasselbaink and sent him off against Spurs in the Worthington cup the season before last. And is generally a fat overweight tit.