That would be a way to go. I also prefer Garcia to Guevara.

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Gresham is a fine talent but I don't see him as world title level. But that's just because I'll never buy a guy who is 5'4" being a viable world champ when surrounded by guys a foot taller and 100 lbs heavier. The size difference is just too much for me.

Secondary titles would be fine for him though imo.

Agree with the World Title thing, at least at this point, but I think there are guys taller I would prefer to fight over him. Dude is in shape and can probably tangle you up. Still deserves to be treated with respect as a talent and human being — and you know what? As the World Champion of that promotion, whether you think he’s a natural fit or not. That’s the hand they were dealt/kept playing after Supercard of Honor. Let him know what the plans for him are so he can have faith in management and doing a good job putting someone over.

Even the guys whinging about him not liking his lumps admit he is a talented guy. The knocks on him are his size and having not having a dynamic personality. Absolutely no one is saying he sucks in the ring.

lol apparently AEW and Kenny Omega have filed a Cease and Desist against Will Ospreay over his new shirt on pro wrestling tees and had it taken off the market. Womp womp.

It’s a work.

If there's any backlash, Omega will blame the Lawyer for being "overzealous."

He’s already being passive aggressive about it. “This triggered serious legal concerns within #Aew. Sincerely apologies to fans of Will. We’ve made it so all order (up to today) will be honored.”

For what it’s worth, as slimy and disingenuous and overrated as I think Omega is, Ospreay’s shirt is way out of line. For those wondering, it’s got an illustrated picture of him doing a move on the front with “Billy the Wanker” in ugly font. On the back it has “Better than ‘The Best’ Bout Machine.” Way too on the nose.

I’m not about to go looking into trademarks, but you could have gone for something way more general like “Better than ‘The Best’” or “Better than Any Bout Machine” which is probably still cutting it too fine.

I actually like “Billy the Wanker” as a nickname though.

In wake of the Gresham story about miscommunication within AEW...Joey Janela went on record that his words of "being ghosted" by Tony Khan were taken out of context, and that he never had an issue with talking to Khan, his issue was moreso that talent relations isn't on the ball. Tony Deppen also mentioned that he found it easy to get in contact with Tony Khan directly at a taping and had a full blown conversation with him despite being an extra.

I see two issues that tie in to each other:

1) Khan might have a largely good rapport with the talent he talks to but the guy runs and books two promotions, is the co-owner and working in the front office of two professional sports franchise, and runs a sports analytics firm. The guy could have his phone open 24 hours a day and there's simply no way he'd be able to drop everything to talk with everyone who might need him. This is where you need intermediaries who have some oversight, specifically Talent Relations

2) They DO have a Talent Relations department but as far as I know it's Christopher Daniels, Michael Nakazawa, and Shawn Dean...all of whom are at least semi-active on the independents themselves. They really need a dedicated person or two in that kind of a job.

The "jobs for the boys" approach of giving front office jobs to wrestlers made sense when AEW first started and there were only so many people they could sign. Plus at that point nearly everyone on the roster had connections to Cody, Jericho, Omega, the Bucks, Daniels, etc and so it was easier to network and get face time in front of Khan.

But they've signed dozens and dozens of people in the last couple of years, including talent they probably never thought would be available. The structure they were using might've worked for original AEW and Daily's Place pandemic AEW, but not the last year of AEW where they've grown the roster rapidly. Not having a full-time Talent Relations staff etc isn't really conducive to a streamlined, functional corporate structure.

Jonny Ace and Bruce Prichard about to become All Elite.

Tony Khan can find time to tweet about Vince McMahon and hang out with Tony Deppen, but he can’t settle out issues with his ROH World Champion prior to the day of the PPV? That doesn’t make Khan look as chill as some think it does.

He’s done this to Chavo, to Swole, to Stunt. If the conversation is awkward, he will avoid it. He’s available for things he wants to be available for.

Tully Blanchard gone from AEW/ROH

That doesn’t surprise me. It seemed about time. That being said, they were still working towards things with him with this Brian Cage stuff. That was when — April?

He had a new faction w/ Cage, Tully Blanchard Enterprises - They wrestled on the pre-show for Death Before Dishonor, though Tully wasn't at ringside

Yeah, that’s what I mean. Seems odd to go about that if his contract is expiring and you don’t plan to be re-sign him.

CM Punk SOOOOOO injured
"Foot Shattered"
Has to relearn walking
Goes to Comic Con
Walks around with a Walking Boot
"Owwwwie it hurts"
Title Unification match???
https://i.imgflip.com/6nvplj.gif

Stubbed toe on guardrail like an 0-2 MMA Failure :rofl:

Dang. Was any of this confirmed by the Sean Ross Sapp? COULD BE DAMNING!

I honestly don’t want CM Punk to return at this point. He got very stale very fast. The same thing happened when he left WWE. You realize how little you miss their actual work.

He was too busy rubbing your inner thigh, as you do.

Well, he could report it after.

So... at what point does this not become dumb?

Oh, it’s dumb from the start right on through.

Triple H is already taking the fight back to AEW, apparently. Brandon Thurston is saying that the next NXT “premium live event” on Peacock is going to be going against All Out on September 4.

You’d think he’d have to have something biggish planned to go against whatever AEW has planned.

Rumored to be at the NOW Arena (formerly the Sears Center) in Chicago.

Cant WAIT for the Dubbalos to brag about All Out selling more tickets and doing more buys, while completely ignoring having a payroll 25 times larger than NXT, and also the $17 million WWE will make from Peacock that month :eek:

They don’t even need successful metrics to call it a win.

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Lol, AEW is a joke to even most wrestling fans, let alone the general public. Its “popularity” in places like the UK and Canada is exaggerated for good PR.

Yes. It is known.

OMG Tiny is FREAKING OUT again right now, fucking spaz...

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...p-back-to-wwe/

That sounds like a man ready to sit people in catering for the next half a decade.

Lol, what a a weird way to respond to those rumors. “They can’t go anywhere because I own them!” Why wouldn’t talent want to be in your promotion in the first place?

Or he could just be stating a fact.
As to why they might want to be there?
Freedom to be themselves and not stuck in gimmicks they didn't want?

God Tony sounds like such a fucking loser when he does interviews. He's turning me! Him and his love for Sammy Guevara!

He has no charisma whatsoever and that is something money can never buy

He’s saying they can’t switch teams because they’re under contract. Not that they don’t want to switch teams.

Their freedom has led to gimmicks viewers don’t want to see. Some talent are fucking stupid and shouldn’t be allowed to do what they want.

Correct. And the fact he’s stating is “Certain people on the internet are fucking stupid. That’s not how it works. Contracts are a thing.” Except he’s saying it much nicer than that.

Sorry. I mean… HE’S FREAKING OUT, MAN!!!!

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People are talking about what happens when those contracts expire, making Khan’s point moot. But of course fanboys are going to ignore that and brag about Khan having people locked down like they don’t criticize WWE for the same thing.

It’s going to be interesting to see what happens if the unhappy talent in AEW start requesting their releases. We don’t really know of anyone besides Gresham that’s allegedly done it, save for a couple of green women who want out of wrestling.

You can tell by the snippets of CM Punk talking about the changes that it’s got people in AEW on edge, because a lot of their bargaining power has slipped away now that there is potential for the WWE to lose some of the negative associations of Vince and his style.

Tbf their top guys could buy out their contracts...they might be able to get the competition to pay the fee too. I dont think AEW has a non compete clause.

Whoops wrong page

(Im not saying they will mind you)

It is interesting though. If the wwe becomes a place where they want to work would they go? The earning potential is clearly higher. More dates though. Pros and cons.

I was going to mention this in the Ric Flair thread. It doesn’t seem like a very WWE thing to do, but there’s a new regime. A few things are possible:

If someone sees the Ric Flair show as a potential springboard, ala All In, they could go to Tony Khan (or even WWE) and make plays for some of their talent. TK, especially, is allegedly running at a major deficit. If someone with money offered to buy out the contract of a Jay Lethal or Samoa Joe, even for cents on the dollar, that’s money TK isn’t spending and is getting.

Another possibility is that WWE get big eyes for some AEW talent that are under contract and make offers to work with AEW on that front. It looks good for a publicly traded company to play nice sometimes, and if they can get access to Daniel Bryan, Christian or whoever without needing to wait for their deals to come up, they could just work out a thing where they use them in conjunction to their AEW work.

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Jonathan Gresham must have the biggest balls in AEW, according to Punk. Didn’t he also say something about talent sticking together?

AEW guys need to shut the fuck up about WWE. It's just annoying, stop being bitter, you sound like a douche. Just enjoy AEW and help us enjoy it, get Tony to stop being a nerd on Twitter everyday and stop worrying about Vince and Triple Haitch.

I know that at those Con events they get asked questions so it's probably been rather prompted to Punk to speak like that but still, it's old hat now. We've had years of Punk talking shit about WWE, just be an AEW guy now and stop bringing it up.

Yeah I don't begrudge Punk for his comments. He was asked about the situation directly and he weighed in. If he just made the comments out of hand it would be one thing but reporters and conference attendees are always gonna ask about this kind of shit so may as well speak your mind instead of giving a non-answer.

Also I have no issues with Gresham choosing to yell at Tony and/or ask for his release. It's his career and he's got every right to try to find a better professional situation for himself if he wants to.

I can easily see where Gresham's unhappiness comes in. He was flying the ROH banner all throughout their shutdown, was trying to keep the ROH name going by defending the belt everywhere etc. Then he is made to drop the ROH title to an AEW signing just like all the other title holders.

I don't blame Tony for putting the belt on Claudio, to me that feels like the right move. But that doesn't mean Gresham doesn't have the right to be a bit miffed about it.

Where is MJF?

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Did he use that on TV?

Re: Seth Rollins

Regardless of personal feelings on the guy and the respect he commands from me, he’s a top 5 talent for WWE, heavily featured on TV, and a veteran of the business at this point. Surely he should be aware of this well known rule?

Yes, he should. Do not compare yourself to something greater. It isn’t hard.

You’re making it sound like wrestlers can’t make stupid decisions.

Giving a non-answer is kind of what he did. He racked his brain trying to find something that made sense instead of just saying “Good for them, I hope they fix their issues.”

Brody King got a tombstone for Darby Allin tattooed onto him. Which is stupider — real or fake?

:lol:

Yeah, bringing attention to that could be a mistake. Pretty stupid move to make your popularity (and lack thereof) a talking point of your show.

Tony Khan is going to be licensing music for Chris Jericho too. Because he hasn’t already spent enough money on his washed up act.

You’re one AEW fanboy. There are a lot of people running with the idea of Gresham being a mark for himself, wanting to go over Claudio, being unprofessional, being “woke,” etc. Anything to try and bury the idea that the booker in AEW cannot communicate effectively.

No one knew who was the RoH champ. There's no reason to be loyal to him. Its a business.

Vito knows that old TEW rule. As soon as you take control of the company, get the titles on the right guys immediately.

Honestly...thats great advice

Claudio should absolutely be ROH Champ. Well, you can get into the argument about whether or not ROH should even exist and whether it’s firing a blank with the guy. But we don’t know that Gresham was pushing back against that at all. That’s a scarecrow being set up by AEW fans (at this point anyway).

Lol, ok, Punk won points with me for a quip in an IGN interview. He said AEW has something for everyone: “If you like technical wrestling — we’ve got that. If you like the garbage stuff? We got that.”

100%. Every EWR and TEW game I've ever started, first order of business is always to look at the roster, decide if any of the champs should keep their belts and otherwise map out the route to get the belts on the people I want as quickly as possible.

Didn't always change the belts. Sometimes I'd happen to start a game with the fed right at the time where the guy I felt should be World champ already had it. But even then I'd thinking about who would be taking the belt off them months down the line.

Funny old Phil :rofl:

Rampage apparently a disaster this week. Most of the audience left because they were having issues getting a pre-taped segment (with Ruby Soho and Anna Jay I think) to play and instead of moving on they just kept on dicking around with it and tried like 3 or 4 times and delaying everything. Everyone finally got pissed and bailed.

Also apparently some kind of altercation between Stokely Hathaway/Lee Moriarty and a fan. Dunno any details about it rn.

Ha, sounds more interesting than the actual show. AEW sucks. Even the hardcores know it.

LOL PWI is claiming that during his argument with Khan, Gresham used his ranking in the PWI 500 as a reason for why he should be presented better.

I don't buy that story tbh but the thought of it cracks me up.

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I don’t buy it either, lol.

Reports saying that when Gresham got into his argument with TK that he cited his PWI ranking (20th) as to why he should be better utilized.

AHAHAHA what a mark.

Rampage pretty good so far. Yuta vs Jericho will be good.

Whatever the Stokely incident was it wasn’t noticeable on the show.

Had suuuper low expectations for Ruby vs. Anna Jay but it was pretty good. Not a Ruby fan but did enjoy Anna Jay and Tay Vs. Ford and Bunny stuff so this was nice to see.

Can we get the TBS belt on Stat now please?

I buy the pwi bit. Lotta guys these days are marks for that kind of stuff

I always figured the better worker was the guy who owned the biggest house but hey if you like being no.20 in a magazine no one reads you do you

Yes, that argument is a really Mark type of argument, but considering who he was talking to, I mean what else does Tiny Khan even respond to?

Yeah, if it were true, TK probably would have changed his mind.

It just reminded me of when Danhausen snapped in a video promo about how he was promised #1 in the PWI and they lied to him. Except he was joking and Gresham apparently takes PWI very super seriously.

I don't like Danhausen. Sorry to those who've put their full fait in this character, but it sucks. I don't watch GCW or wherever he came from so I don't "get the joke" or whatever.
From what I've seen on AEW though it's not good. To those who enjoy it, I'm glad you're happy about Danhausen. To me though, it's just a waste of time.

Its ok. I'm not mad at you for your terrible opinion. Also you've been cursed for not loving that Danhausen.

I read Danhausen as Danielson here and was very confused.

It's a HUGE play on the old school Nosferatu character from the black and white film days. He is a huge horror fan, including the B-Cheese movies, and plays that up with his character.


It's unique, and works in small doses. Too much of it though, and it gets very old very quick. He will be a good enhancement talent for people to get wins over, and is recognizable enough to give the W to here and there.

He'd be great as a host for late night horror b movies. Don't care for him in this enviornment.

He'd have made a fine guest on Joe Bob's Drive-in Theater

I discovered Danhausen through Jim Cornette, oddly enough. He would watch his cameos on his podcast and they were hilarious.

If you’re discussing your outlaw mud show bullshit comedy wrestling and making Jim Cornette of all people laugh WITH you and not AT you about the subject, that’s a pretty big compliment.

The problem with Danhausen only exists if he wins. Unlike Cassidy who's issues crop up if he isnt completely obliterated always

Comedy undercard guy is totally fine though

I think the best use for him is an occasional interviewer/analyst. Maybe even give him a talk show segment. Have him do some ridiculous stuff on the YouTube channel too.

I don’t need to see him wrestle. Like you said, he shouldn’t be winning and there’s only so many times you can milk him getting obliterated for heat. A comedy match where he beats a weasel manager or something once in a blue moon would be fine though.

Fluke comedy finishes are also acceptable.slipped on a banana peel stuff. Ref didnt see some bullshit from a guy his opponent is fueding with etc. You have to take active care in how you handle his finishes. He never just go out there and have a match.

Agree. He’s a great personality to have around but the value is in others having to play it straight opposite him. I wouldn’t be using him in the ring all that much.

He could host an auxiliary show fine. Tighten up Dark and make it Danhausen’s thing.

This is why they need to lean more on his gimmick and have him use the jar of teeth like he did in the indies. It's never gonna work if he just straight up wrestles and always gets demolished. Give him some tricks to work with.

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Dax is injured.