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Feels like that idea would have been great to do last gen considering how long it went and developers complaining a lot about needing new hardware during the last 2-3 years of it.
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I guess my feeling is that I wouldn't have bothered with even buying a Xbox One if I knew this was their direction. I would have dropped the $$ on a PC.
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People upgrade their phone/tablets because they get sluggish, the battery goes, or because things move forward in a couple of years, or you drop it enough times, etc. Progress is fast and you use it all the time. I think the model for the console will be stuck with the home appliance concept. You're not going to drop your console, and its not using cutting edge miniturised technlogy. I don't think it's technology holding games back now. If anything game budgets are spiraling out of manageable control, these games have gigabytes of RAM to work with now, but are we seeing stuff that does something not possible on last gen, beyond graphics? Shadow of Mordor's nemesis system, which you could have optimised for less RAM if you were clever about it. The backwards compatibility is a weird thing too. Demonstrably only a small percentage of gamers actually use it. Spencer said you can do it on the PC, but oftentimes this requires third party patches. You aren't playing Doom in a dos prompt. So he offers a future of backwards compatibility but currently they just give away 360 games as bonuses left and right. Old games are largely devalued. Maybe future Xbox games won't be coded to the metal, but then are they promising ultimately that they will still run on a machine in 2026? 2036? Can they really make that promise? |
For compatibility, they've said that it would be for games throughout the generation, not into infinity. It's a hail mary because XBox has always been to get MS in the living room and that's not as appealing as it once was, so now it's another trojan horse for Windows 10. Theoretically, XB1 going forward will work with any universal windows app from the store within the spec and I honestly think thats the only way the XBox team could get support within MS.
The idea of them having a Windows 10 PC under a lot of TVs is probably appealing, then have the most powerful hardware console available on top. I'm betting that if there is another XBox next generation, it'll be a pure Windows box with controller support built in. |
I completely see why the idea sounds good, but I don't know if it would work, or if MS have the gumption to do it. Console gaming is still a market that's hyper sensitive to price.
The other issue though is that they'd have to make the game functionally the same, but only with some marginal upgrades for a two year hardware cycle. Then you're shelling out several hundred pounds so you maybe get the game at 30fps rather than 25 They could do something with a Windows box, but they can't do shit |
Today's News:
1) According to a report from VentureBeat, both Disney and Wargaming have recently joined EA and Activision in pulling out support for this year's E3 event. http://www.destructoid.com/wargaming...3-346586.phtml 2) Update to Alan Wake series news as Remedy Entertainment revealed the trademark filing for Alan Wake Return is not for a game and instead is for a live action tv-like mini-series. http://www.destructoid.com/okay-so-a...e-346563.phtml 3) During a recent interview with IGN, Nintendo revealed fan feedback played a huge role in Star Fox Zero's delay which lead to them scrapping original gameplay plans and adding in more content for the game. http://www.destructoid.com/star-fox-...e-346475.phtml 4) Update to Microsoft's gaming unification plans news as Epic Games' CEO recently backtracked on being completely against it after Microsoft clarified their plans. His main complaints revolved around the worries of PC gaming becoming a closed platform and developers not joining being at a huge disadvantage. http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...games-founder/ http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbo.../1100-6435381/ https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/s...02742883864576 5) SALES - Square Enix currently holding a sale on Steam from now till March 7th and discounts going as high as 85% off. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/lot.../1100-6435367/ |
No EA, no Activision.
If Ubisoft continues to have problems with the Vivendi takeover, I can see them pulling out. Leaving Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, and maybe another publisher or 2 to have pressers this year. |
Activision aren't there every year anyway. They get a console manufacturer to show off COD and then they have little to show.
Ubisoft aren't going anywhere. They're not small enough to not want a platform to show their stuff and they're not big enough to do their own thing. Out of the presentations, we'll only lose EA from the ones there every year and from the additions last year, Bethesda are back. Not sure about SquareEnix yet. Depends how much they have to show this year since most things they had shown will be out, especially on the western side. |
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A new challenger has entered the VR market. A budget device with compatibility with Occulus DK2:
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http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...s-gears-of-war
Well, that relationship went sour. Epic are furious about what MS are doing with the game apps. It seems were finally getting that fight that was about to start when Windows 8 came out |
Heh. Finally turned my Wii U on for the first time in a while, checked the eShop. That Ubisoft sale is really good. Rayman Legends for $10 is a great value
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MS have closed Lionhead and Press Play Studios. Also cancelled Fable Legends, which was apparently nearly finished.
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!
Been beta testing the shit out of legends since like.... December or something. It was going to be awesome. |
Allow me to make an inflammatory Xbox remarks in light of this:
1. Xbox Done 2. I guess I'll have to rebuy the controller every year, since stick drift is still a problem, so I might as well upgrade my console while I'm at it 3. All the One owners have already declared <strike>sour grapes</strike> that resolution doesn't matter, so 0% of them will be interested in hardware upgrades That is all. Anyway, I have a strange feeling after this. I think in a years' time things will look pretty different. I wonder if they just physically have a load of Ones that they need to sell before they get out. |
Why are you buying controllers and upgrading your console every so often?
This is what I asked before about this iPhone release style: Just like iPhone you don't actually need the latest hardware. All I needed to hear was the games would work. That is literally the most important thing here. So why are you silly enough to actually purchase on their release schedule? Do you do that with your smart phone (seriously asking)? |
And res don't matter, kiddo.
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When I first got a 360, the second controller I bought had stick drift. I took it back to the shop. The replacement also had stick drift out of the box. Queue plenty of others developing stick drift over the years. I won a Gears 3 360 in a competition with 2 of the controllers with the twisty d-pad. Both had stick drift within a few months. They spent $100 million developing the Xbox One controller. They use the same analogue gates so they still have stick drift. Including the Elite controller. The stick drift drove me absolutely mad on the 360. I had a wired controller that seemed immune to it, but later I learned about slowturn and it had it. The 360 sticks were less reliable than the N64 stick. So my joke was I might as well buy a new console if I'm buying new controllers so often. |
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Wasn't Fable 4 or anything but I enjoyed the series and Legends had the right vibe. Kinda hope they form a new studio that goes multiplatform.
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I never much issues with the stick but if that's your experience I can't invalidate that.
But not a great deal has made me regret going with the One. It's biggest flaw is being victim to Sony's studio poaching and being under a parent company that doesn't care about gaming at all. |
MS soured stuff itself with its move away from XNA, and how they treated the indies. They went through almost the same hubris Sony did with the PS3, except worse. By the time the One was coming out, Sony had learned their lesson and MS were ready to make their own massive mistakes.
I don't think the sticks would have been a problem if you played Halo. Halo seemed to have a small deadzone in mind to allow for it. The games I would use to test a new controller were either Bioshock or Mass Effect. Looking at Shepard constantly crawling to the right. I have always been close to getting a One, my brother has one, but the controller stick thing was unforgivable to me. I've owned pretty much any console you care to mention, and I've never had anything like the stick problems I had on 360, straight out of the box often. To hear they spent $100 million researching a new pad, which amounted to putting an actual D-Pad on it, and yet keeping the same dodgy analogue system prone to breaking, fuck it. |
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Today's News:
1) Some Nintendo related news:
2) Street Fighter series producer Yoshinori Ono recently teased he's trying to convince Capcom to approve development for a new Darkstalkers game. http://www.destructoid.com/there-s-s...s-347008.phtml 3) Blizzard announced Overwatch will arrive on May 24th, the beta arrives between May 5th to May 9th depending on the platform, people with pre-orders get the beta on May 3rd, and the beta itself requires a Gold account for the Xbox One but not a PS+ account for the PS4. http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...e-date-leaked/ 4) Update to Microsoft shutting down Lionhead studio news as Lionhead announced the beta for Fable Legends will still continue accepting new players till this Wednesday and the beta itself will shut down on April 14th. The microtransaction system was also shut down although those who purchased in-game gold but didn't spend it will be able to get a refund. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/aft.../1100-6435437/ |
nice... still gotta finish Pokemon Picross before I look at TP one
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I really liked the 360 for a time there, you know. I don't hate the One, I do hate MS. |
Really want a new darkstalkers to happen.
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Day of the Tentacle remaster is out March 22nd.
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Probably an MGS pachinko machine. |
Very possible, except wouldn't they use the Japanese actors? Maybe it's just some cheeky parody thing.
I was thinking last night about the possibility that, if MS are indeed closing up the Xbox One... We really need to know what the NX is, and even then it could be a weird hybrid handheld/touchscreen button thing, we would end up with a pretty much unopposed Playstation 4 for years to come. What happens then? |
Are... you a Sony fanboy? 'Closing up', 'unopposed'. Why are talking in wartime vagaries?
You do know it's us vs them, right? |
What is the "us vs them" mentality/meaning?
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'Unopposed'? As in opposition? As in two market competitors? Is that a military term? Are... are you... are you butthurt? Once again acting like a SJW about my 'violent rhetoric'. Did I look like I was heralding a glorious Sony future? I'm looking at a quite possible reality in the next couple of years and wondering if anyone else enters the market. |
Your last line really hits home there.
I may just be looking to NX as well. My wife and son LOVE Mario anything and Nintendo as a whole. I've been needing to get my Zelda fix and Metroid too (where you at VC Metroids). Recent news of bringing SNES titles to the VC are really pushing me towards buying a Nintendo console for the first time in over a decade (excluding my son's 3ds) Valid point Rogererer. |
Tons of amazing games on the Wii U
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Figgy will tell you; I'm a gamer. I'm about the experience. That's end all.
Rog hasn't said a single to make me worry about whether I could do that or not. He's just spouted faux analyst talking points without saying anything actionable. Simple question: Is there anything in MS' recent news that stops me from playing Halo, KI, Destiny, etc? |
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Also, nothing is keeping me from playing currently, I was more looking toward the future, as was Rog. |
I'm a Nintendo kid anyway. I'm most curious as to whether the NX will be compatible with the Wii U - if that means it has to have enough in common with the Wii U, or if they're going in a very different direction.
I thought that maybe it would just connect to the gamepad, but then that would leave a load of half useless Wii U consoles lying around. |
Don't presume some personal battle here, when you could simply answer the question.
Or would you rather not openly invalidate all this faux concern for Xbox? I think you're a fanboy, or simply against Xbox, who concerns himself with every detail except the main point of all this. It's a very silly kind of consumer and trying to wave it off as me being personal and not wanting to talk the console industry is you dodging a simple question. |
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There's been several major dramatic shifts in Xbox in the last week. It's not coming as a surprise to anyone. It's not certain yet, but there's a very clear direction. But apparently I have to talk about ACTIONABLES on your copy of Killer Instinct? No, nothing in the news stops you playing Killer Instinct. Unless they turn off the servers. They did just cancel that Fable game, which they'd pledged to support for 5 years, so... Maybe? The important thing in all of this, I've learned, is Kalyx Triad. I mean, there's been hundreds of people fired yesterday, but the main thing is his console still boots. Something for the analysts to think about. The real ones, not faux ones. |
Battle of the Triangles.
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I have a triangle of tri-faceted triangles. I'm a whole other level.
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It seems like MS is going all in on Hololens, which will be able to make use of a lot of game development skills, but have corporate applications.
Now that we've reassured Kalyx that his One will still boot, I brought up the NX because it's an unknown quantity. The Wii U did quite modestly, and the NX could do the same. Is there anyone else out there that would start putting out hardware similar to the Playstation? Is it the end of the linear progression of consoles? I just can't wait to see what the NX is. |
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I am definitely intrigued by NX. RIGHT NOW, I cannot imagine another contender entering the market. It would basically come down to something similar to Steam boxes yea?
I dunno, everyone doubted MS with the launch of the first Xbox (not to be confused with One ;)) and they did exceptionally well with the 360. Feel like they are, as you stated, abandoning ship, so to speak. |
Look forward Kalyx.
WHAT IF!!!!! What if player B buys Xbox One v 2.0 which has stronger hardware and as a result can run games online better than v1.0 What if, because of that, lag differential exists between the two systems and players screens and creates an (unintentional) competitive advantage? No one knows right now which is why the conversation was moving to hypothetical futures. |
We can count on MS' cheapness to emulate games across the board while they connect to the same servers.
People are playing 360 games on Xbone online against playing on 360. Right now. But if we're speculating things could get worse, sure. Why would I be defending XB on that? |
I answered your irrelevant question, sir.
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Sure. For me, it just goes back to "shoulda beefed up a PC" because that is essentially their direction. |
Yeah, and that's really the crux of the issue. PC master race etc
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Today's News:
1) For those with a NVidia graphics card, the newest driver update and patch to fix the update are reported to be broken and/or causing serious problems for those who installed both. http://www.destructoid.com/don-t-ins...s-347362.phtml 2) SALES & FREEBIES:
3) Bioware's senior editor, Cameron Harris, announced she will be retiring from the gaming industry next month. Harris joined Bioware in 2007 with previous jobs at both Nintendo and Microsoft during her career. http://www.destructoid.com/this-biow...d-347334.phtml 4) Harmonix announced they have dropped Mad Catz as the co-publisher of Rock Band 4 with Performance Designed Products to become the new co-publisher. While no official reason was given, it is rumored to be related to Mad Catz's on-going financial problems. http://www.destructoid.com/harmonix-...r-347230.phtml 5) Update to Hasney's Metal Gear Solid #SnakeMystery news post as it turned out to be just the voice actors of both Solid Snake and Colonel Campbell recording stuff for unrelated Kickstarter campaign. Paul Eiding asked David Hayter is he could record insults done in Solid Snake's voice for a theater group's fundraiser effort. https://www.vg247.com/2016/03/07/sor...olid-dialogue/ |
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The series of posts by Hasney are #POTY material.
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Casey Powell Lacrosse 16 is out today.
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Can't wait to pick up some Nintendo Selects on Friday...
Question for any other Wii U owners. My hard drive is getting full. How decently does the console function with games loaded on an external drive connected? I wanna grab Tropical Freeze but don't think I have enough room now. If I have a dedicated 3TB drive attached to my console at all times, will that functionally be no different from something loaded directly on the machine's HDD? I assume there may be additional load times associated with it.. idk |
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Nice. I have two WD externals (a 4 TB and a 3 TB) that I use for movies/TV... can consolidate all that onto the 4TB and use the 3TB for my Wii U, should be plenty of room for anything I can ever imagine putting on there
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I own at least 90% of Nintendo published Wii U games digitally, plus some more from the launch when other companies were actually supporting it and I'm not filled up a 500GB yet. You should be golden.
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I wish more of my titles were digital. I do most of my Wii U playing in bed using Off-TV play, and swapping discs is a chore. Is there an option to get a digital download of games you already have the physical copy for? I'd probably play a lot more Mario Maker in that case :o
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Yeah, I bought a cheap Y cable and plugged in an external drive. You could maybe get away with a single connection, but they recommend two just to be sure that the drive is getting enough juice.
There's no negative impact to running stuff off the drive. As Hasney said I think it might actually be faster depending. For a while I was using just a Sandisk USB stick. You can do that as well but people get terrified. Nintendo games seem to be tiny. SM3DW is like 2GB or something. I do wish I'd got more stuff digitally. I don't fully trust it yet, but I am somewhat done with the big stack of game cases you end up with. I generally buy digital now. It just sticks in my craw when it's still £49.99 vs £10 for a used disc copy sometimes. |
I've never heard of using a Y cable for USB. I routinely stream to my HTPC using Plex from my externals using just standard single connections and as far as I know have not experienced any negative effects.. I'll read into that.
The lack of resale value and such is definitely the main drawback to going fully digital. I'm generally okay with that though, EB Games (Canadian GameStop) gives awful trade-in value anyway |
I think the USB ports on the Wii U are lower voltage than most other things.
I stopped selling stuff a year ago and it actually made me spend less on games. Life's funny like that. |
That makes sense, Nintendo isn't exactly bleeding edge with their hardware.
I've never been much for selling games in general. Probably a bit of a hoarder mentality. I still play a bunch of GBA games here and there, I like having something of a collection. I generally do prefer a digital collection though mainly for the convenience and accessibility of it all |
I used to trade in a lot until 2004 when I started selling stuff on amazon. It actually played into my anxiety a lot over the years and I would repeatedly sell stuff and then pick it up again.
There's a part of me that doesn't trust digital but that's quickly dying. The only problem is that you get the weird prices. In the US it's usually $60/$60 on release, but here a physical release on amazon will normally be £30-40, and a digital game will be £40-£60. If it was equal I wouldn't think twice. |
I used to trade a lot as well, but man they really rip you off. Reselling like ROgerer said is a much better way to go.
My only issue with digital titles (at least on Xbox One) is that if your internet access is down, you cannot play your game, at least that has been my experience. I get met with a "Do you own this game or app? Please sign in to verify" or something to that effect. |
Just looked at my Wii U storage once I got home. I still have 303GB free on my external.
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Yea.... I remember it being a thing on 360.
A quick search shows that I should set my One to "offline mode" under settings in order to achieve this. Network outages are usually brief at my house (i need a new modem) so I never bothered with it. I would just load up something else. |
Don't think that's true even on XB1 if your console is set as your home console. Live was down over the weekend and everything still booted.
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I have definitely had issues with it. CoD Black Ops III is digital - couldn't play it last time Live was down.
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I think it may be on a per game basis issue. I've had digital games that wouldn't run if Live was down but also have ones that will. It also may be tied to a specific Live service being on/offline at the time though. There are usually still several Live things running even when it is 'down'.
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Today's News:
1) Bethesda announced the closed beta for the upcoming Doom game will start on March 31st and also released a new trailer for the game. http://www.egmnow.com/platforms/pc/d...iler-released/ 2) SALES & FREEBIES:
3) Creative Assembly announced Total War: Warhammer has been delayed by about a month with the new release date set for May 24th. The official reason related to them needing a bit more time. http://www.destructoid.com/total-war...6-347480.phtml 4) Some Gears of War 4 related news:
5) For those interested, a new NES emulator called 3DNES allows for the ability to play classic NES games in 3D mode. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/pla.../1100-6435510/ |
The disc version of the new Hitman game has dropped into 2017.
Damn, another game I can't play this year. |
Get the hd trilogy to hold yourself over.
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I'm not waiting for Hitman when it's this good. Pumped for tomorrow.
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I thought it wad going to be episodic content as opposed to a full game, but they're charging full price for this.
I can't see one mission being worth 60 bucks no matter how much replay value it may have. Will redbox it though, for sure. |
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Can't say I'm very enthusiastic about this new trend in gaming. It's like paying 20 bucks for one slice of pizza and the promise of more slices down the line. I mean yeah, TECHNICALLY you are getting your moneys worth but it still feels like kind of a gyp. |
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Today's News:
1) CD Projekt RED recently hinted Cyberpunk 2077 will be their largest game ever in terms of scope and rumors of the game arriving by late 2016 likely will be false. http://www.destructoid.com/cyberpunk...3-347873.phtml 2) Some Nintendo related news:
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4) Ubisoft are currently holding pre-orders for the upcoming Assassin's Creed film with the highest package priced at $1200. http://www.destructoid.com/pre-order...0-347834.phtml 5) Some Sony related news includes:
6) Two Tribes studio announced after 15 years in the gaming industry, they will be shutting down in the near future with upcoming Rive to be their last game. http://www.destructoid.com/two-tribe...e-347863.phtml |
Love anything cyberpunk, and witcher 3 was my goty for 2015, so yeah....pretty fucking excited for Cyberpunk 2077. Long way off though.
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Holy crap, they're actually making an Azmodunk skin for HotS. This will be the best.
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To promote Hitman, SquareEnix did a video of a real life controllable version of Hitman
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