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Mr. Nerfect 07-07-2022 05:26 PM

Christian Cage right now. He’s betrayed Jungle Boy because of a loss over a year ago. He’s doing his best to make that make sense, and he’s so good, but it’s a pretty weird thing to help a guy you’re mad at out for months only to reveal that “haha, I don’t really like you. That time I came over and cleaned out your crawl space for you? It’s because I’m EVIL!” But you can project the same Kenny Omega energy onto it. Why doesn’t this count as a 27 yr old story, because it all really starts with Christian Cage being Jungle Boy’s real father, but Omega’s “odyssey” with Page does?

And for the record, Christian Cage’s story with Jungle Boy — yeah you can say it started with the Battle Royal. Whatever. He turned on him two weeks ago. That’s where we are. It’s not fucking unique to pro-wrestling to have Christian betray his buddy. It’s fucking pro-wrestling.

Mr. Nerfect 07-07-2022 05:37 PM

I can’t wait for Zach Gowen to come back and put his artificial in a glass case. So now Gowen’s two feet can’t hit the floor. Brock Lesnar destroys the glass and puts it on the ground so Gowen can be eliminated. Gowen is not deterred, however. Well, he is for a little bit. He wrestles The Miz at WrestleMania because…reasons. Then he disappears for a while for some reason. But then he returns and wins Money in the Bank from Theory, cashes in on Brock and wins the WWE Title, getting revenge on Brock, Sable and Vince from ‘03.

20 year storytelling people.

Mr. Nerfect 07-07-2022 05:38 PM

More realistically, Zack Ryder can return and attack Edge. He kept him down all those years ago. 15 yr storytelling.

Jordan 07-08-2022 08:17 AM

Is anyone aware of Kenny's contract terms? How long?

Tony recently said something like "I think Kenny will make it back".... Made me think. Did he sign a 3 year deal initially or a 5 year deal, or did he get an extension at some point? If it's 3 years then you could see an angle here were Kenny may be using the injuries to run out his contract. He is an EVP so I am not certain he's tied to the same obligations that WWE stars would be if they tried to run out their deal. WWE just extends, will AEW?

XL 07-08-2022 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5562253)
Christian Cage right now. He’s betrayed Jungle Boy because of a loss over a year ago. He’s doing his best to make that make sense, and he’s so good, but it’s a pretty weird thing to help a guy you’re mad at out for months only to reveal that “haha, I don’t really like you. That time I came over and cleaned out your crawl space for you? It’s because I’m EVIL!” But you can project the same Kenny Omega energy onto it. Why doesn’t this count as a 27 yr old story, because it all really starts with Christian Cage being Jungle Boy’s real father, but Omega’s “odyssey” with Page does?

And for the record, Christian Cage’s story with Jungle Boy — yeah you can say it started with the Battle Royal. Whatever. He turned on him two weeks ago. That’s where we are. It’s not fucking unique to pro-wrestling to have Christian betray his buddy. It’s fucking pro-wrestling.

That’s not quite how they’re playing it out though. He’s been explicit in that he “rode Jungle Boy’s coat-tails” to cash in easy money for as long as possible and that times up. It’s why they brought Matt Hardy into his orbit this week because he’d been doing the same thing.

Jordan 07-08-2022 08:43 AM

Yes they slid Hardy into the story but I think it's just a place holder til Jungle Boy returns.

Evil Vito 07-08-2022 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5562339)
Is anyone aware of Kenny's contract terms? How long?

Tony recently said something like "I think Kenny will make it back".... Made me think. Did he sign a 3 year deal initially or a 5 year deal, or did he get an extension at some point? If it's 3 years then you could see an angle here were Kenny may be using the injuries to run out his contract. He is an EVP so I am not certain he's tied to the same obligations that WWE stars would be if they tried to run out their deal. WWE just extends, will AEW?

He signed a 4-year contract when the company started, so it would be coming due by the end of January 2023.

I genuinely am starting to wonder if he's actually going to return, and it has nothing to do with him wanting to change companies or anything. He's obviously had a lot of physical issues and he's realizing he's never gonna be able to heal to the full extent he might've wanted, but then you also have shit like vertigo. Wrestling with vertigo has to suuuuuuuuuck.

I dunno what else he'd do with his time or how much he's banked between NJPW and AEW over the years but I wonder if there's a point where he's just not wanting to put his body through it again. He really should scale his style back upon return but not sure he knows how to do that.

Mr. Nerfect 07-08-2022 02:36 PM

He signed a deal for four years in January 2019 with no extension option. So he’d likely be pondering his next move right now, possibly even talking to other companies, questioning if he wants to do this any more, etc.

I’ve always thought it likely the dude would leave when his deal is up. He’s not a versatile enough guy to change up his style. He’s also a pretty bitter dude when it comes to wrestling. It wouldn’t have shocked me at all to see him take $8 million, fuck around for four years, then retire and play video games and drag logs in Canada and make documentaries about how great he is. It’s only been recently, with the arrival of threats like CM Punk and Bryan Danielson, and New Japan getting into bed with AEW that I’ve really considered the possibility Omega could take a spot in WWE. The AEW video game turning into a complete disaster under his watch only compounds matters.

At this rate, I’d be pretty surprised if Omega re-signs with AEW. I think his injury stuff is largely bullshit. A bit of a Shawn Michaels trick.

Mr. Nerfect 07-08-2022 02:41 PM

This is a dude who lied to New Japan about joining AEW right up to the Tokyo Dome in 2019. He then talked about how little their dicks were when it came to offers. He also fucked with Delirious and Cornette on his way out of ROH. This guy is not an honest or genuine person. He was always going to chew up AEW if things didn’t go his way.

Mr. Nerfect 07-08-2022 02:45 PM

Do not be surprised at all if AJ Styles vs. Kenny Omega is on the WrestleMania 39 card.

Crippla 07-08-2022 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5562365)
He signed a 4-year contract when the company started, so it would be coming due by the end of January 2023.

I genuinely am starting to wonder if he's actually going to return, and it has nothing to do with him wanting to change companies or anything. He's obviously had a lot of physical issues and he's realizing he's never gonna be able to heal to the full extent he might've wanted, but then you also have shit like vertigo. Wrestling with vertigo has to suuuuuuuuuck.

I dunno what else he'd do with his time or how much he's banked between NJPW and AEW over the years but I wonder if there's a point where he's just not wanting to put his body through it again. He really should scale his style back upon return but not sure he knows how to do that.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. He might be done putting his body through all the physical brutality of wrestling for now and just stay behind the scenes and be able to actually focus a little bit on his personal life. And of course there is always the possibility of him getting back into the ring again in the future and maybe "scaling his style back" a little bit as you said which might be easier to do after a lengthy period of not wrestling.

Damian Rey 2.0 07-08-2022 03:33 PM

Omega can make a good living wrestling a handful of times a year. I think the bath with Ospreay will happen at some point. Plus whatever other dream matches he has left in him.

Mr. Nerfect 07-08-2022 03:38 PM

Behind the scenes is…probably not the place for him. Creatively, his role with the women was largely panned. Even the most hardcore AEW fan admits that their women’s division sucks. And his work on the video game literally chased the lead developer to the competition and has allegedly run up a MASSIVE deficit for the company.

I don’t think he’ll be back for a pay cut either. So is he even worth keeping if he wants to agent or scout talent? And who can trust him on that? His early picks are all leaving the promotion. Joey Janela, Alan Angels, etc.

Mr. Nerfect 07-08-2022 03:44 PM

I didn’t watch the show: Was there any mention of him at Forbidden Door? It would be interesting. It was funny that Kota Ibushi’s issues with New Japan popped up around the same time as the build to the show. He and Kenny are very close. There could be some sort of hurt feelings there. It wouldn’t shock me if BOTH Omega and Ibushi walk away from their respective companies when their deals are up.

It wouldn’t be totally shocking to see The Golden Lovers show up in DDT. Maybe Omega also doubles as a producer of sorts for Tokyo Joshi Pro or something like that.

slik 07-08-2022 10:44 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 07-09-2022 01:26 AM

Ew.

Sting Fan 07-09-2022 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5562348)
That’s not quite how they’re playing it out though. He’s been explicit in that he “rode Jungle Boy’s coat-tails” to cash in easy money for as long as possible and that times up. It’s why they brought Matt Hardy into his orbit this week because he’d been doing the same thing.

And hes now doing the same to Luchasaurus. Simple but effective story line being played out by a guy who is real strong on the mic. Makes even more sense in an AEW context where they often talk to money as a motivator.

Damian Rey 2.0 07-09-2022 01:13 PM

Christian rode Jungle Boy’s coattails to an impact world title run, a main event at their biggest ppv to date to that point, and a tag title run. And bailed immediately after it was over to try and corrupt the monster of the group. It’s been a great story thus far and I have little doubt Jungle Boy will get his revenge probably at All Out. Idk how anybody couldn’t follow what has been a simple and effective story. Unless of course you just don’t watch but for some reason incessantly post and complain about the product.

rez 07-09-2022 08:58 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 07-11-2022 01:30 PM

Marko Stunt has come out with some harsh comments on AEW. Basically said he was ghosted by Tony Khan and couldn’t get a straight answer on what was going on with his contract.

It’s funny to see AEW apologists take the Cornette position and say “It’s Marko Stunt! Who cares? He sucks and shouldn’t have been in wrestling anyway!” Yeah, he was a terrible hire. It doesn’t make Tony Khan ghosting him ok.

slik 07-11-2022 04:08 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MY BACKFLIP ON TRICYCLE!⚰️ <a href="https://t.co/XGz8vTxDUj">pic.twitter.com/XGz8vTxDUj</a></p>&mdash; DARBY ALLIN (@DarbyAllin) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarbyAllin/status/1546546615275491328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 07-11-2022 07:03 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In 2022 Wardlow’s won the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FaceOfTheRevolution?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FaceOfTheRevolution</a>, became <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllElite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllElite</a> at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DoubleOrNothing?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DoubleOrNothing</a>, + became TNT Champion last week!<br>Now <a href="https://twitter.com/RealWardlow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealWardlow</a>’s issued an open challenge for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> &amp; his opponent is red hot fresh off back-to-back tv wins<br><br>TNT Championship<br>Wardlow vs <a href="https://twitter.com/orangecassidy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@orangecassidy</a> <a href="https://t.co/PfkkEdbpzX">pic.twitter.com/PfkkEdbpzX</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1546630462650531840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xrodmuc316 07-11-2022 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 5563399)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In 2022 Wardlow’s won the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FaceOfTheRevolution?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FaceOfTheRevolution</a>, became <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllElite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllElite</a> at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DoubleOrNothing?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DoubleOrNothing</a>, + became TNT Champion last week!<br>Now <a href="https://twitter.com/RealWardlow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealWardlow</a>’s issued an open challenge for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> &amp; his opponent is red hot fresh off back-to-back tv wins<br><br>TNT Championship<br>Wardlow vs <a href="https://twitter.com/orangecassidy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@orangecassidy</a> <a href="https://t.co/PfkkEdbpzX">pic.twitter.com/PfkkEdbpzX</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1546630462650531840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

2 wins in a row is "RED HOT" lol! Tiny is such a Toolbag

Vastardikai 07-12-2022 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 5563399)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In 2022 Wardlow’s won the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FaceOfTheRevolution?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FaceOfTheRevolution</a>, became <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllElite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllElite</a> at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DoubleOrNothing?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DoubleOrNothing</a>, + became TNT Champion last week!<br>Now <a href="https://twitter.com/RealWardlow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealWardlow</a>’s issued an open challenge for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> &amp; his opponent is red hot fresh off back-to-back tv wins<br><br>TNT Championship<br>Wardlow vs <a href="https://twitter.com/orangecassidy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@orangecassidy</a> <a href="https://t.co/PfkkEdbpzX">pic.twitter.com/PfkkEdbpzX</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1546630462650531840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The only reasonable way for this to end is like this:

Orange does his hands in his pockets schtick. Wardlow kicks him in the stomach and powerbombs him eleventy times and pins him. Worst thing they can do is make this competitive.

Damian Rey 2.0 07-12-2022 02:46 AM

Agreed but they’re going to

Evil Vito 07-12-2022 08:59 AM

The problem is OC is so over, Wardlow squashing him likely ends up getting Wardlow heat when he's supposed to be a hot babyface.

So they've booked themselves into a corner with this.

drave 07-12-2022 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5563413)
2 wins in a row is "RED HOT" lol! Tiny is such a Toolbag


It's the NBA Jam rule of three in a row.




1) nothing
2) "he's heating up!"
3) "He's on FIRE!!!!!!!"

Evil Vito 07-12-2022 09:04 AM

Mind you, I don't mind OC having competitive matches most of the time. He's one of my faves. Crowds love him. But Wardlow's a difference beast.

If the match is competitive, OC needs to come right out of the hate trying for flash pins or whatever and establish out of the gate that he's trying. Because even I have a tough time suspending my disbelief that Wardlow wouldn't just truck him if he was in his normal slacker mode to start the match.

drave 07-12-2022 09:06 AM

Rise Above Hate


Be A *

Evil Vito 07-12-2022 09:08 AM

Actual spot I could see opening the match: OC starts with his hands in his pockets, Wardlow immediately goes for a Powerbomb, OC ends up managing to roll out of it over the top, hands in pockets the whole time

Surely if they're gonna have an actual match he's gonna have to try to out-quick Wardlow as it's his only chance.

Vastardikai 07-12-2022 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5562431)
This is a dude who lied to New Japan about joining AEW right up to the Tokyo Dome in 2019. He then talked about how little their dicks were when it came to offers. He also fucked with Delirious and Cornette on his way out of ROH. This guy is not an honest or genuine person. He was always going to chew up AEW if things didn’t go his way.

I have also never seen him take responsibility for anything. Like, somehow he isn't in charge of folks wrestling at a show he was promoting. The whole Women's Division only getting one segment (not counting Baker). The exploding ring fiasco. Almost killing Impact. Not putting over anyone in Impact or AAA.

slik 07-13-2022 12:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Making sense of all the TBS and TNT changes now Zas is the final boss <a href="https://t.co/93LGGpCzEi">https://t.co/93LGGpCzEi</a></p>&mdash; Gavin Bridge (@iruletv) <a href="https://twitter.com/iruletv/status/1547228792313106432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 07-13-2022 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spilchuk (Post 5563516)
I have also never seen him take responsibility for anything. Like, somehow he isn't in charge of folks wrestling at a show he was promoting. The whole Women's Division only getting one segment (not counting Baker). The exploding ring fiasco. Almost killing Impact. Not putting over anyone in Impact or AAA.

Everything perceived as good comes from him, anything rejected is someone else.

Sepholio 07-13-2022 03:07 PM

Somethings going on with Keithly again. He posted some tweet about getting bad news and wishing his brothers well in the match night regardless of the outcome. Mentioned something about being gone again. TK says he is still in the match tonight, so I dunno what's going on here. Hope he's OK.

slik 07-13-2022 04:58 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“First they went All In, then they went All Out, and now they keep going All Out. But how can you keep going All Out when you haven’t gone back in? You’ve got to go in to go out. Why not just cover your bases and call it All Around?” <a href="https://t.co/oqYmhwS9C3">pic.twitter.com/oqYmhwS9C3</a></p>&mdash; RJ City (@RJCity1) <a href="https://twitter.com/RJCity1/status/1547255079425671168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 07-13-2022 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5563873)
Somethings going on with Keithly again. He posted some tweet about getting bad news and wishing his brothers well in the match night regardless of the outcome. Mentioned something about being gone again. TK says he is still in the match tonight, so I dunno what's going on here. Hope he's OK.

Don’t wish bad on the guy, but I hope he goes and sorts his shit out. He’s not very good but he thinks he’s amazing.

#1-norm-fan 07-13-2022 05:39 PM

Keith Lee is pretty good. Especially by today’s standards.

screech 07-13-2022 09:26 PM

I'm sure this has been brought up but I noticed on Rampage the other day that the ROH World Champion is shorter than Tony Schiavone. This episode was the first time I'd seen the champion in any setting and it did not leave a good impression.

I know it's not a massive deal to have smaller champions anymore but damn.

Fignuts 07-13-2022 10:00 PM

Daniel Bryan is smaller.

Gresham is fun size.

Vastardikai 07-13-2022 11:29 PM

They keep Gresham around so someone can be shorter than Adam Cole.

screech 07-13-2022 11:44 PM

Huh. Have never noticed Bryan vs Tony height-wise. Though it's rare that I get to pay attention 100p because of dad stuff.

screech 07-13-2022 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spilchuk (Post 5564170)
They keep Gresham around so someone can be shorter than Adam Cole.

I buy this

Sting Fan 07-14-2022 05:08 AM

Wardlow vs. OC actually ended up being pretty fun. Maybe a min or two too long but ridiculous fun and Wardlow looked a beast.

Sepholio 07-14-2022 05:40 AM

Oh....oh man. AEW is apparently about to give the Paul Wight another run...only this time he will be playing his Captain Insano character from Waterboy. I...I don't know what to say.

Mr. Nerfect 07-14-2022 06:15 AM

The greatest wrestling promotion ever!

screech 07-14-2022 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5564184)
Oh....oh man. AEW is apparently about to give the Paul Wight another run...only this time he will be playing his Captain Insano character from Waterboy. I...I don't know what to say.

lol wasn't part of the reason he signed because they agreed to let him do that?

Evil Vito 07-14-2022 09:44 AM

Yeah it's been known for ages. He'll likely squash a couple of Dark regulars or The Ass Boys and call it a day. Dude can barely move.

#1-norm-fan 07-14-2022 09:50 AM

Loved how they’ve used him in the past. I think he had a dark match or two after but his one main roster feud was just him squashing an undercard guy. Not doing the WWE tactic of making him look like a bum for the sake of a young guy who doesn’t end up getting anything from it anyway. Perfect legend booking.

Lock Jaw 07-14-2022 10:08 AM

I hope they can pick up his feud with Billy Gunn and the Assboys.... they can pretend that they didn't just completely drop the story after they turned heel on him, and say that they were just doing masterful long term story-telling.

xrodmuc316 07-14-2022 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5564184)
Oh....oh man. AEW is apparently about to give the Paul Wight another run...only this time he will be playing his Captain Insano character from Waterboy. I...I don't know what to say.

It is ridiculous, sure, but is it any more ridiculous than a dinosaur, alien, zombie, panda, or wizard? A character from a movie 24 years ago is pretty on par for the course in this real sports like feel company.

Mr. Nerfect 07-14-2022 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5564212)
I hope they can pick up his feud with Billy Gunn and the Assboys.... they can pretend that they didn't just completely drop the story after they turned heel on him, and say that they were just doing masterful long term story-telling.

:lol:

Jordan 07-15-2022 08:00 AM

Apparently Adam Cole has a torn labrum which I've had happen to me, it's very painful. Don't look for Cole to "get bigger" any time soon. You can't really bench press or overhead press with that injury. He's chosen not to do surgery, which means it's probably never going to fully heal especially if he returns to the ring this summer. He should have had surgery.

Mr. Nerfect 07-15-2022 08:13 AM

I don’t think anyone expected Adam Cole to get any bigger barring some sort of life crisis.

Evil Vito 07-15-2022 09:09 AM

I've never been someone who's been a stickler for size and even I think he's looked like shit for much of this year.

Can't do anything about your stature but even in NXT he at least had a little bit of muscle definition. He was never a specimen obviously, but at least looked like some work was being put in, probably because he had to train at the PC.

Now it feels like he hasn't lifted a dumbbell since September.

xrodmuc316 07-15-2022 11:57 AM

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Damian Rey 2.0 07-15-2022 02:02 PM

He should at least look like an athlete. Not every mma fighter is shredded but even the bigger guys and heavyweights like Mark Hunt look like they lift. Cole should site for a Bryan Danielson type physique.

Sepholio 07-15-2022 02:46 PM

So when the tag titles changed the other night it turns out that Ricky Starks was not the legal man when he got pinned. Wonder if they acknowledge this next week.

Mr. Nerfect 07-15-2022 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5564724)
So when the tag titles changed the other night it turns out that Ricky Starks was not the legal man when he got pinned. Wonder if they acknowledge this next week.

They’ll have to play it up now, because people have noticed it, but it totally wasn’t part of the plan. Just bad officiating.

slik 07-15-2022 11:07 PM

Rey Fenix seems like he might have injured his knee on RAMPAGE

slik 07-15-2022 11:07 PM

very tired of Rey/Penta losing their masks in matches also

Triple A 07-15-2022 11:08 PM

Not a very good Rampage imho

slik 07-15-2022 11:11 PM

I only saw the main event and thought it was a mess

XL 07-16-2022 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 5564858)
Rey Fenix seems like he might have injured his knee on RAMPAGE

He seems to get injured every week.

Mr. Nerfect 07-16-2022 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5564941)
He seems to get injured every week.

I was going to say the same thing.

Crippla 07-16-2022 09:45 PM

He's made of glass... he's like the Rob Gronkowski of wrestling but not nearly on the same level of talent.

Mr. Nerfect 07-16-2022 11:06 PM

There’s something to the guy. I think there’s actual charisma there. But he hurts himself so much it’s going to be like “Oh that guy who always hurts himself?” and he’ll be forgotten about fairly quickly.

Mr. Nerfect 07-16-2022 11:08 PM

Fenix should have been split off from Pentagon way earlier and encouraged to sell and really get mileage out of his body and charisma before now. I’d like to see what he could do with a Claudio Castagnoli, since Claudio works well with smaller guys like that.

Maluco 07-17-2022 12:52 AM

When does someone step in with authority in AEW and tell these guys to tell a story or two and tone down their matches?

Your springboard plancha means more at the culmination of a feud. Have a personality and you don’t need to kill yourself every week!

Fignuts 07-17-2022 01:49 AM

He's not made of glass.

He just gives no fucks and launches himself as hard and as fast as he can at the guard rails.

Fignuts 07-17-2022 01:49 AM

Thats not a compliment, btw

Mr. Nerfect 07-17-2022 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 5565073)
When does someone step in with authority in AEW and tell these guys to tell a story or two and tone down their matches?

Your springboard plancha means more at the culmination of a feud. Have a personality and you don’t need to kill yourself every week!

The fan base eats up these guys doing frivolous shit and hurting themselves way too much for TK to distance himself from that approach.

Jordan 07-17-2022 07:05 AM

Rey Fenix excluded, a lot of the current AEW injuries happened on pretty basic spots. Like Punk he just hopped a guard rail and his foot was destroyed. Santana ripped his knee performing a uranagi, Danielson got a knock on the head. Fenix is the one who gets his arm broke in half doing crazy shit.

Sepholio 07-17-2022 11:09 AM

lol AEW has signed Two Dimes Donovan mere weeks after WWE let him go for violating the wellness policy.

Evil Vito 07-17-2022 11:40 AM

NXT has a stricter wellness policy than main roster IIRC. WWE apparently told him they’d re-sign him in a year which to me sounds like he only barely tested positive for a traced substance, maybe even a false positive, but they had to go by the books.

Anyway, I’d imagine he’s on one of those lower tier agreements where he’s mostly just there to work Dark but can otherwise leave at any time or take bookings anywhere else. Not too surprising to see him there because he was a Dark often during the pandemic which helped get him and a handful of other Dark regulars signed this year.

Mr. Nerfect 07-17-2022 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5565145)
lol AEW has signed Two Dimes Donovan mere weeks after WWE let him go for violating the wellness policy.

It’s more applicable in other cases, but AEW really need to stop going after WWE developmental flakes. They’re also apparently using Parker Bourdreau? If someone has got the look and/or pedigree to be someone and WWE just cut them, chances are there was something they didn’t get. We’ve seen it with Cesar Benoni, Marina Shafir and a few others. I know the fun narrative is WWE = evil stinky morons who don’t know what they’re doing, but you need to stop loving the smell of your own farts as a promotion.

I don’t know anything about this Donovan guy, but he was REALLY valuable, I doubt he would be a free agent. He might be sitting at home eating lumps or whatever, but if AEW gets access to a WWE developmental act, chances is they couldn’t really cut it at a developmental level.

xrodmuc316 07-17-2022 09:18 PM

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Jordan 07-17-2022 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5565145)
lol AEW has signed Two Dimes Donovan mere weeks after WWE let him go for violating the wellness policy.

Does he flip?

Tom Guycott 07-18-2022 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5565164)
It’s more applicable in other cases, but AEW really need to stop going after WWE developmental flakes. They’re also apparently using Parker Bourdreau? If someone has got the look and/or pedigree to be someone and WWE just cut them, chances are there was something they didn’t get. We’ve seen it with Cesar Benoni, Marina Shafir and a few others. I know the fun narrative is WWE = evil stinky morons who don’t know what they’re doing, but you need to stop loving the smell of your own farts as a promotion.

I don’t know anything about this Donovan guy, but he was REALLY valuable, I doubt he would be a free agent. He might be sitting at home eating lumps or whatever, but if AEW gets access to a WWE developmental act, chances is they couldn’t really cut it at a developmental level.

Being 100% fair, Cesar got a raw deal anyway. He was there during that phase of WWE "future planning" that consisted of "hiring a bunch of various hispanic guys because we're going to start a big marketing push into South America!" that never happened (sort-of like hiring a bunch of Indian and Middle Eastern guys and then trying to rehab years of shit booking for Jinder Mahal inside of three weeks so he can be a top heel in India). Then they just kinda didn't do shit with half of them even in developmental. And he was in that half.

Marina was just ass, but got the rub because of the Horsewomen thing (note: someone tried to "correct" me before - I'm referring to the MMA Horsewomen of Ronda Rousey, Shayna Baezler, Marina Shafir, and Jessamyn Duke, not the wrestling Horsewomen of Charlotte, Bayley, Sasha, and Becky Lynch). You'd think more than 25% of that group would "get it" at at least a passable level, but in the end, the only jewel from that turd has always been Shayna. Rousey was "the name draw", but Baezler has nearly flawlessly transitioned to a pro wrestler from jump. If only WWE'd stop having her do bullshit like throw her in random nowhere tag teams or bite necks with comedic amounts of fake blood...

Damian Rey 2.0 07-18-2022 12:54 AM

Marina fucking sucks

Sepholio 07-18-2022 01:07 AM

Boy, wait til you see her in person. She has no business being in that ring. Probably the worst I have ever seen, male or female. It was EMBARASSING.

Sepholio 07-18-2022 01:12 AM

Big Daddy Shirley Crabtree looks like someone who belongs on the Mount Rushmore of wrestling if you compared him to Marina. She's that bad.

xrodmuc316 07-18-2022 01:57 AM

I have said it before, but HOW she can be married to Roddy Strong, trained with top athletes like Ronda and Shayna, and with an MMA background, it is astounding that she can be as bad as she is.

Fignuts 07-18-2022 01:58 AM

Because she can't just absorb Roderick Strong's talent through his seed.

xrodmuc316 07-18-2022 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5565286)
Because she can't just absorb Roderick Strong's talent through his seed.

LOL of course not, but he must have tried to impart some wisdom to her. She has to have learned something that would make her better, I mean its Roderick Strong!

Lock Jaw 07-18-2022 08:44 AM

Yeah, even Brie Bella got a bit better from being in a relationship with Daniel Bryan.

Evil Vito 07-18-2022 08:46 AM

I never understood bringing in Shafir. Like even if you thought there was some potential there that could be unearthed, let it be on Dark for a long while. I have no idea what they saw on Dark to make them think she'd be a fit on live TV.

A clunky, uncoordinated in-ring performer on top of being an absolute vacuum of charisma.

Evil Vito 07-18-2022 08:47 AM

I can't even use the angle that they brought her in to tempt Roddy to come in...because if/when Roddy ever gets released, of fucking course AEW was gonna be the assumed landing spot with the rest of the Undisputed Era. Wouldn't have mattered if his talentless wife was there or not.

xrodmuc316 07-18-2022 12:43 PM

https://www.ringsidenews.com/2022/07...der-fake-name/

I am SOOOOOO glad AEW is the good guys and not like the Evil FEDBAD!

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Mr. Nerfect 07-18-2022 01:13 PM

For shame, AEW. For shame.

#1-norm-fan 07-18-2022 01:23 PM

Damn. Ruining some internet nerds’ fun. This is certainly worse than that time Vince raped a woman.

Fignuts 07-18-2022 01:30 PM

It might not be as serious as WWE's current scandals, but it's still a slimey, shitty thing to do.

Fair use has taken such an unbelievable beating over the years.

Evil Vito 07-18-2022 01:39 PM

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AQA has stepped away from wrestling after only 6 matches with AEW, citing mental and physical health.

Fignuts 07-18-2022 01:46 PM

Damn, seemed like she had potential. Great looking shooting star press, too.

BigCrippyZ 07-18-2022 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5565355)
For shame, AEW. For shame.

Holy fuck! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: You all are just as pathetically dumb and desperate as the moron who apparently tweeted this. You should really leave the lawyering to us actual lawyers.

AEW can have as many multiple different unregistered agents who can SEND DMCA takedown notices on behalf of AEW when AEW claims someone else is infringing AEW's copyright(s) that AEW wants taken down. For example, a Twitter user uploads content to Twitter that infringes on AEW's copyrights, AEW can hire or appoint multiple agents to find and issue DMCA notices for AEW. It sound like this is something he used to some degree be involved in for AEW, maybe as someone who was supposed to research ContentID and/or look for infringing content for AEW. There's no such thing as a US Copyright Office registered agent for SENDING notices on behalf of someone.

AEW can only have one registered agent with this US Copyright Office who RECEIVES DMCA takedown notices for AEW FROM other parties who are claiming copyright infringement of the other party's copyright(s) by AEW on an AEW owned platform/website. For example, AEW allows visitors to their website or users of some other AEW owned platform to upload content to the AEW website/platform, then AEW would want to have a DMCA registered agent to RECEIVE DMCA notices from (let's say WWE) claiming the user uploaded content that infringed WWE's copyrights.

This clown doesn't understand this and is claiming that because the agents issuing DMCA notices for AEW aren't the same as the single agent registered to receive AEW's DMCA notices that this is somehow bad. He couldn't be more wrong. This idiot says I'm not a lawyer and then proceeds to claim that AEW will have a legal issue in a way that doesn't apply to the situation he's claiming occurred.

The only way AEW's lack of a DMCA registered agent would impact AEW is if AEW was the owner of a host platform or website that allowed independent users of the platform/website to post content to AEW's platform and IF any user posted content that infringed the copyright(s) of other parties who sued AEW, AEW could be liable for $ damages for infringement as much as the user would be. That's not what he's even claiming happened here, let alone that it's the legal issue he's bringing to their attention, and given that as far as I know, AEW doesn't own a platform that allows independent user's to upload user submitted content to the platform, this guy's so out of his depth and misinformed.

What happened is someone sent his email on to counsel who said "oh we should really go ahead and register an DMCA agent in case AEW ever decides to start a platform/site that allows users to upload content on it or if AEW's website gets hacked through a CMS user account by someone who randomly uploads infringing content"

Also, :lol: at that email being "threatening".

xrodmuc316 07-18-2022 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5565356)
Damn. Ruining some internet nerds’ fun. This is certainly worse than that time Vince raped a woman.

Wow...

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Great argument, as always :roll:

xrodmuc316 07-18-2022 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 5565368)
Holy fuck! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: You all are just as pathetically dumb and desperate as the moron who apparently tweeted this. You should really leave the lawyering to us actual lawyers.

AEW can have as many multiple different unregistered agents who can SEND DMCA takedown notices on behalf of AEW when AEW claims someone else is infringing AEW's copyright(s) that AEW wants taken down. For example, a Twitter user uploads content to Twitter that infringes on AEW's copyrights, AEW can hire or appoint multiple agents to find and issue DMCA notices for AEW. It sound like this is something he used to some degree be involved in for AEW, maybe as someone who was supposed to research ContentID and/or look for infringing content for AEW. There's no such thing as a US Copyright Office registered agent for SENDING notices on behalf of someone.

AEW can only have one registered agent with this US Copyright Office who RECEIVES DMCA takedown notices for AEW FROM other parties who are claiming copyright infringement of the other party's copyright(s) by AEW on an AEW owned platform/website. For example, AEW allows visitors to their website or users of some other AEW owned platform to upload content to the AEW website/platform, then AEW would want to have a DMCA registered agent to RECEIVE DMCA notices from (let's say WWE) claiming the user uploaded content that infringed WWE's copyrights.

This clown doesn't understand this and is claiming that because the agents issuing DMCA notices for AEW aren't the same as the single agent registered to receive AEW's DMCA notices that this is somehow bad. He couldn't be more wrong. This idiot says I'm not a lawyer and then proceeds to claim that AEW will have a legal issue in a way that doesn't apply to the situation he's claiming occurred.

The only way AEW's lack of a DMCA registered agent would impact AEW is if AEW was the owner of a host platform or website that allowed independent users of the platform/website to post content to AEW's platform and IF any user posted content that infringed the copyright(s) of other parties who sued AEW, AEW could be liable for infringement as much as the user as an infringer as well. That's not what he's even claiming happened here, let alone that it's the legal issue he's bringing to their attention, and given that AEW doesn't own a platform that allows independent user's to upload content to the platform, this guy's so out of his depth and misinformed.

What happened is someone sent his email on to counsel who said "oh we should really go ahead and register an DMCA agent in case AEW ever decides to start a platform/site that allows users to upload content on it or if AEW's website gets hacked through a CMS user account by someone who randomly uploads infringing content"

Also, :lol: at that email being "threatening".

None of that changes the question of why does Aubrey have to create a fake name to issue the takedowns?

Oh and what about AEW making a big point how they would not do exactly this, that they are not going to be evil like FEDBAD. I guess protecting copyright material for monetary gain is off limits, but doing so when somebody does it without praising DUBGOOD, well that is a noble endeavor.

#1-norm-fan 07-18-2022 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5565359)
It might not be as serious as WWE's current scandals, but it's still a slimey, shitty thing to do.

Fair use has taken such an unbelievable beating over the years.

Agreed.

A simple “It’s a shitty, slimey thing to do” is a smart assessment. :y:

BigCrippyZ 07-18-2022 02:11 PM

:lol::lol::lol: You have no fucking clue let alone proof that the named agent is remotely fake. Aubrey can be an agent of AEW who's merely doing the work on behalf of the named agent you dumb fuck. It's like if someone hired my firm (or even me directly as the attorney owner of my firm) to be their issuing DMCA takedown agent. I can then appoint an associate lawyer or even a paralegal or intern in my firm to act as my agent to actually draft and/or send the notices. This happens all the time.

BigCrippyZ 07-18-2022 02:36 PM

There's also no rule or law that prohibits a registered agent from using an alias. It's not necessarily best practice or something I'd recommend but there's nothing unethical, illegal, or wrong in doing so.

BigCrippyZ 07-18-2022 02:52 PM

Also, Tony never said he wouldn't protect AEW's IP, he said AEW wouldn't take ownership or control of their talent's IP as company property. In other words, the company IP will be (videos, logos, original music, etc.) protected, but AEW wouldn't take IP rights to their talent's names, ring gear, or prevent talent from doing outside deals involving their name, image, and likeness .


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