kings the lot of you

That was just window dressing attached to my extremely valid point.

If you dont like it, stop crushing on cm punk like a teenage girl.

my best friend and I also do this. we will not be deterred.

Really enjoyed the Rampage Rumble, great finish, good intimidating challenger for Mox and just good fun overall.

As someone who is never seen Rush before, does he sell at all?

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Can't anybody tell this Mark to shut up, Fuck man

https://wrestletalk.com/news/tony-kh...eaks-shameful/

Isn’t Jericho a known Meltzer informant? That’s where all the leaks are coming from.

This dude is like

https://i.imgflip.com/6ll822.jpg

It would have got the pop of opening a can of soda.

AEW is so gross.

Brody King fucking sucks. He’s horrible and he looks like shit. Of course AEW is pushing him. They literally have two betters wrestlers in the same fucking faction. Imagine tuning in for a fake Royal Rumble just to have fucking Brody King win it. You’d take Hacksaw Jim Duggan over that.

The booking in this promotion is horrible. I don’t understand how anyone can argue against that.

Right. If the homosexual implication is particularly offensive, I’m pretty sure if it were a female that drew THIS level of obsession the same conclusion could be met. The main point remains unresolved.

Getting sidetracked by something that isn’t the point again.

#Fansplain

I was just going down the list of losers on this roster. You could save a million before you even get done cutting the A’s.

* Aaron Solo
* Abadon
* Alan Angels
* Alex Reynolds
* Angelico
* The Blade
* Brandon Cutler
* Brian Cage
* Brian Pillman, Jr.
* Chuck Taylor
* Colt Cabana
* Danhausen
* Don Callis
* Emi Sakura
* Evil Uno
* Fuego Del Sol
* Griff Garrison
* Jake Roberts
* Keith Lee
* Kip Sabian
* Leva Bates
* Luther
* Mark Sterling
* Matt Hardy
* Michael Nakazawa
* Peter Avalon
* Preston Vance
* Riho
* Serpentico
* Sonny Kiss
* Stokely Hathaway
* Tony Nese
* Tully Blanchard
* Vickie Guerrero
* Yuka Sakazaki

I haven’t even included guys like Big Show and Mark Henry who do PR work, at least. You could always cut guys like Daniels & Kazarian too. But I’ve generally tried to stay away from people who are important to the show, even if I think they suck. So I kept Hager and Orange Cassidy. But you could go even deeper with these cuts and let go of Trent Beretta, Lance Archer, Shawn Spears and guys like that.

That’s 35 names. Fucking ludicrous.

I feel like I should be getting more reputational royalties for the creation of that term.

I’m not an asshole. I’ve already decided that you get 20% of all money made via the “Fansplaining” brand.

You know what? Fuck it — cut Paul Wight, Mark Henry, Jake Hager and Christopher Daniels too. If Kenny is not re-signing, cut him too. That’s at least $4 million right there. JR is cooked, apparently. Cut him. $5 million. Luchasaurus sucks — cut him. Orange Cassidy does more harm than good, you can send him silently into the night instead of licensing fucking music for him. Bobby Fish is old and The Undisputed Elite sucks. Shawn Spears has had more than enough time in the sun, and you don’t need QT Marshall to put anyone over. Add them all to the list. That’s probably another $7 million saved.

Bryce Remsburg and Rick Knox can be cut from the refs.

Alex Marvez and Justin Roberts from the broadcast team.

Do you really need Ace Steel and BJ Whitmer as agents? I’d argue that you could probably cut Billy Gunn too, but he’s one of the best things they’ve got.

So much fucking waste. Impossible to care about.

Oh, and for fuck’s sake, just let MJF go so he can go become a star. It might trickle down to you somehow. But maybe he wouldn’t want to leave if the show actually got better and a bunch of the assholes draining up resources and hindering the growth of this thing weren’t in the way.

Oh boy. Noid’s in “Overpost to bury the lead” mode. AKA “Noidmode”.

Jake Hagar is a future world championship

I like a good half of the people you named Noid lol

I can see reason to cut a lot of them but disagree with a good portion of them without bias of my own personal entertainment

I liked Hager back in the day. Thought he was a solid, upper mid-card and occasional main event guy. But yeah, he can go now. AEW has had him for 3 years and he's done fuck all besides stand behind Jericho with his arms crossed. Anyone can do that and for less money.

Agree on Wight, Henry, Daniels and JR too. JRs the only one I even hesitate a little on because damnit its JR.

Don't know/care enough about the refs\broadcast guys\agents to comment on them.

OC is fine in his role as long as they aren't overpaying him. Nothing wrong with having a couple comedy gimmicks around to lighten the mood and he can shine from time to time when he really goes, unlike a lot of comedy guys.

Also would keep Luchasaurus. I have a weird soft spot for him. Like what he does at his size. The gimmick is just terrible though.

I'd keep Billy around too for now, but he's definitely nearing the end of the time where that would be the case. Maybe another year or 2 at most.

Oh, and Undisputed Elite....yeah Id probably cut and run. They are making a chunk of change, are older, seem to be a bit injury prone and they have other guys that already fill their niche. Maybe keep Cole a little while because he's somehow still over af with the crowd even though hes terrible rn and because of Britt.

OC may not get paid a lot compared to ex WWE guys, but how much has it cost Shad for his son to license 2 different songs for this guy? I would be willing to bet those 2 songs cost AEW more than Cassidy himself.

Yeah thats just speculation though. I feel like it's probably nowhere near as expensive as you think it is.

Just wanna make sure this isn’t an issue we wanna address.

Just in case Noid’s convenient string of posts ACCIDENTALLY buried a poignant issue. We’re just ending it here, right?

You guys are so weird man, what are you 8 years old? The person you say you hate and are mean to is really the person you are crushing on? Good logic, but here is the truth.

I don't say I hate Punk because I secretly like him, I say I hate Punk because featuring him as the guy ruins AEW for me, far more than any stupid Elite flippy shit ever did. It is that simple for me, how can I take it seriously when THAT guy is supposed to be the best. It is offensive to any pro wrestler that has to lose to that guy, ESPECIALLY in a company where "Wins and Losses REALLY MATTER".

You really think he's the worst to ever be pushed to the top? I don't think he's an ideal guy to build a company around but I don't think he's the absolute worst choice either and he alone definitely doesn't ruin a whole show for me. I just don't see that being the sole downfall of AEW the way you do and I don't think everyone who has to do the job for him is necessarily going to be in career jeopardy because of that either

Yes, he killed any credibility he had in UFC. There is no way to believe he could ever beat a guy like Adam Page, who is 13 years younger, about 40 pounds heavier, faster, stronger, and more athletic (he can actually do a flip over the rope).

Even when WCW made David Arquette World Champion, they did it as a fluke, not because he was such a badass. They also did not portray him as a bad ass AFTER he proved to everybody he could never win a real fight.

It would be like having Hulk Hogan come back as the best Civil Rights Activist. People would say hold up, THAT is the guy you want in that role?

You don't seem to enjoy AEW regardless, so that doesn't really track.

Getting sidetracked again because of the issue that was fansplained in the ORIGINAL fansplain…

See…

That is false, I was on board for pretty much all of 2021, even with the exploding ring dud. Then they started bringing in WAY too many ex Fed guys, pushing complete randoms out of nowhere like Wheeler Yuta, and after patting themselves on the back for their great 3 year build of Adam Page, they gave it up to crown the owner's favorite wrestler in 9 months time.

They literally brought in a guy 2 weeks later who is more famous, more popular, more successful, and 1000 times more believable, who also was 6 months removed from being in the main event of Wrestlemania, and they have him in garbage 10 man hardcore matches while Phil gets to be World Champion.

There is asking for suspension of disbelief, but this is WAY more. This is asking us to completely ignore 7 years of that dude failing at everything while bad mouthing pro wrestling and its fans, and be happy and grateful he is back on a wrestling show while pretending he is the best at it.

Why are you guys worried about a company paying right for a song? Quit being a Vince boy, AEW is where the fun is. We have rock songs, pop songs, huge legends and up and coming super stars, no super HEROS.

We love AEW here X-Rod and Noid, you won't change that!

How it started:
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How its going:
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TINY KHAN GETTING EMBARASSED AGAIN!

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One of those guys has already gone, and there’s a good chance most of that list won’t be re-upped.

Now do a WWE list.

Doesnt WWE already do that for us every few months? :rofl:

When you’ve got about 50 people who should be gone, 1 being cut does not really do much. I don’t know why they were there in the first place.

The WWE roster is actually pretty slender. Am I getting rid of guys with potential because they aren’t being used? Am I going to cull people over the age of 40? Ah, fuck it, here goes:

* Akira Tozawa
* Cedric Alexander
* Ciampa
* Dominik Mysterio
* Finn Balor
* Otis
* R-Truth
* Reggie
* Shelton Benjamin
* T-Bar
* Veer Mahaan

I get why a lot of them are there. Their comedy division has value to them. They do PR. They meant something once upon a time. Having a Nigerian giant will get you certain attention. I’m just thinking really unaffectionately about what I would feature in a streamlined WWE. If I stop to think “What would I actually do with you?” Nope, cut. It’s not a talent issue with a lot of these guys.

* Alexa Bliss
* Carmella
* Dana Brooke
* Doudrop
* Nikki ASH
* Tamina

* Erik
* Happy Corbin
* Humberto
* Jinder Mahal
* Mace
* Mansoor
* Ricochet
* Ridge Holland
* Shanky
* Sheamus

* Aliyah
* Lacey Evans
* Naomi
* Raquel Rodriguez
* Sasha Banks
* Shotzi

* Charles Robinson

* Booker T
* Corey Graves
* Jerry Lawler
* Wade Barrett

I had to be more “ruthless” with the WWE list.

You just made Tiny Khan cum in his pants with all the potential yummy game changer debuts on that list.

Hey Orange Cassidy is insanely over, moves merch, has great matches and gets some of the best reactions on the roster, so of course Noid wants to cut him. I’m some huge Cassidy mark but the guy is one of their most over homegrown talents. Cutting him is just stupid.

Also why does anybody care how much money AEW is spending? Who gives a shit?

Meanwhile I’m excited to see Brody v Moxley. About time they give that team a bigger spotlight. Ideally this starts a feud leading to Black v Moxley for the title. Black needs a bigger role.

Noid is for sure one of the people who thinks Orange Cassidy can't wrestle because of the gimmick.

Orange Cassidy is a main event guy for AEW. Big star, super over, awesome matches. Jim Cornett doesn't like him? That's fine, we can all have different opinions. Did you see his match at Forbidden Door? Sick, what about how cool his new entrance song is? Slaps.

Yeah I hope they are doing well but I can't be bothered to give a shit about the financial details behind the shows I watch.

If "Good Matches" was all it took to draw people in, we would be talking about how AEW's major competition is the NWA, and it would still be run by the Crocketts. Here's the problem: It doesn't. You need more than just "Good matches." You need at least something that resembles a personality people would want to see.

The fact that Orange Cassidy is a main event guy is kind of horrifying for the future of wrestling. His biggest problem is his gimmick. Because, I don't give a shit how good he can "go" once he "Gets serious." For all the talk about how AEW "Doesn't insult the fan's intelligence," they have a guy whose whole gimmick revolves around the fact that no one in AEW is smart enough to kick him in the gut and give him a finisher as soon as his hands get into his pockets. That's a bridge too far, even for those who watch wrestling.

As far as financials, it's not a big deal so long as A. it keeps them on TV and B. they satisfy the network.

OCs new theme sucks... but OC is gold, great gimmick and can go in ring.

Hes an upper card talent, I dont really think hes a main eventer as such, hes certainly not winning the big one anytime soon. But the fans love him, his ring work is excellent and he moves merch, hes literally all you could want in a performer.

I had a small epiphany today about Theory that may apply here... were all a bunch of old cunts who want companies to "push young talent" but we want them to push young talent we (the aforementioned old cunts) want to see who look and sound like the stars of old we wish longingly for through rose tinted glasses.

AEW is still great btw, horrendous run of injuries lately has put things up in the air but that can be good sometimes.

Brody King vs. Mox is gonna be great and hopefully might lead to Malakai vs. Mox which will also be great.

Blood and guts was great too, I often find myself wandering off on longer matches like that but I was all in the whole way through.

How good is Claudio... He looked impressive size wise in WWE but he looks like a fucking Titan in AEW, love it!

Love Jane.

So fucking good.

I see your argument and it's valid but I think OC has evolved to a point where the joke of the gimmick is becoming secondary to his ability in ring. I think he's being taken a little bit more seriously than ever before. I only have a few weeks booking to support that but when he came out on Dynamite last week it felt like a star was reborn.

Christ. OC should have peaked with his ppv match against PAC 2.5 years ago. I'm glad the neck beards are thrilled that he's being given a top spot. Loved the idea of the "sloth" wrestler at first but they've pushed him way out of his orbit. He needs to evolve as its been the same thing over and over again for years now. I could even forgive them pushing him up the card during a time like this when there are injuries all over but he isn't a long term solution in the upper card unless the numbers are saying otherwise.

Where is MJF??

The MJF story needs to come back this week.

Well, that’s just a lie. I don’t think Cassidy can wrestle because I’ve seen him wrestle and it’s horrid. People just perpetuate this myth around the guy being able to go because of the gimmick.

Orange Cassidy is why wrestling can’t have nice things. That people hide behind minute spikes of a couple of thousand people watching the silly bullshit is also telling. Attention is not approval.

He moves merchandise? How much? They never speak in terms of that do they? They let a number for someone slip one day because it set a “new record.” It was a shockingly low number of units moved. But because he’s “the most” it has to be good, right? It can’t be that they’ve niched themselves to the point that a gimmick that shits on the very genre it exists in does slightly better than people who should be drawing numbers. Nice!

Even if the guy was good (he isn’t), the gimmick itself defeats the whole purpose of having wrestling. Smarks will bitch and moan about how nothing means anything anymore, but then champion a guy who smacks you in the face with “this isn’t real, so why bother even trying?” You might as well get rid of all your belts and not even have matches at that point.

You don’t have to think it’s real, but it’s nice for art to have a bit of integrity sometimes.

Everybody debating whether Orange Cassidy sucks or not, yet Orange Cassidy is so much better than (ohhh XRod doing a gimmick!!!) CM Punk.

Orange Cassidy might not be everybody's cup of tea, but he never gave visual proof he is incapable of actually winning a fight or injured himself jumping into a crowd like a little bitch :rofl:

CM Punk vs. Orange Cassidy in a shoot fight on PPV. I’m there.

People think that Orange Cassidy is a draw. AEW is watched be 1 million people a week, if that. Having 10 people come to your tent to see you eat live mice doesn’t make you a star just because the bearded woman only has 8. Especially when there are 100 people who would have gone to the fair if your act wasn’t creeping them out.

Also, it’s not fucking funny. It’s a bad joke. And he can’t wrestle. It’s bad content.

I still don’t see the point in having one of your best wrestlers going around and knocking the company. Especially when he’s a heel and he’s got a damn good point. What’s the end game here?

We could be living in a world where MJF is World Champion. Or where he’s taking advantage of CM Punk being injured and making a move for the World Title and rubbing it in his face.

Now he’s not on television…on purpose. Like…what?

I miss Jazzy Foot forcing titty honking into every discussion. That was an awkward obsession we could all get behind.

Better days.

All I'm getting is you want to see OC's honking titties, O' King.

Omega’s taken aim at Cornette again. Apparently he didn’t feel he was already banged up enough.

Does Cornette wanna honk Omega's titties?

Omega thinks so. But Kenny’s the one honking his own titties.

Self-gratification honking....




hmmm,




NEW MARKET!

He‘s so desperate to feel love he can’t get his own hands away from honking himself.

Multi person titty honking.... DONE!

Titty honking elimination three way best two out of three series

on a pole!




OMG




Judy "PlzHonkMyTitties" Bagwell on a Pole match. Winner is the frst to honk them dangling sweater cows. Won't even have to climb up the ropes.

Remember when WCW had Torrie Wilson in a cage? They should have had people think her titties then. Someone could have gotten distracted honking her titties so they’d forget to let her out so someone else could honk her titties the next week.

WrestleMania 17 would have been an even more classic PPV if Chyna vs. Ivory was a titty honking match. And if Rhyno had honked one of Lita’s titties in TLC.

Noid is fixed. You’re welcome, TPWW.

I’ve finally gotten around to watching clips of Christian’s current heel work. Outstanding. A-grade stuff. He’s actually made me interested in Luchasaurus. What a fucking promo. Double his pay.

When they do something right, you’ve got to give them credit. It’s just a shame about the rest of the show.

This is my only memory of you saying AEW has done something right. But you are right, Christian is so good as a heel like this. Babyface Christian was terrible in comparison.

Sad that it took so long to get something good with him, even though the matches were great his story with Kenny failed to deliver the heat. Nobody wanted Christian to win the AEW Championship at that time, they did a poor job building that.

I often read Ringsidenews because they constantly have something new to read even if it is the wrestling equivalent of TMZ. The guy who runs it I think is in Noid and Xrod's pocket, he has a huge bias against AEW.

Interesting to note though that AEW has only sold 4,672 out of a total of 7,003 tickets for tonight in Rochester. Not that bad of a showing in my opinion, it's normal for attendance to fluctuate especially now for a multitude of reasons that have and have not to do with the wrestling industry. But it is obvious to some degree that AEW isn't the same hot promotion it was in the beginning. Remember the online waiting rooms for the first several PPV's and shows? Always sold out, jam packed. Well that has died off. Probably because we thought we were going to get NXT level undercard but we got Sonny Kiss, Sammy Guevera and Nyla Rose shoved down our throats. Sammy improved obviously but still vastly overpushed.

Now we are in a transition where Tony is trying to figure out where the piece fit and it is the first obvious slump the company has had, other than the Nightmare Factory Dynamite tapings during the pandemic, but can you really blame them for that? At least we got something.

Looking forward to tonight a lot. One I'll be home to watch it. Two, I am banking on some triggers to get pulled tonight to launch us into the summer full blast. Last summer AEW was incredible, let's get it back. Lean on the stars available that we've let out of focus. Miro, Christian, Malakai & House of Black... I want to see Rush used as a main guy. DO SOMETHING WITH ANDRARDE. The dude could have been a main event player had you booked him as one instead of a joke with Matt Hardy.

I’ve complimented some MJF promos. But most of the stuff they produce just isn’t good.

You can only ride being new and the promise of potential for so long. People who thought this was going to be something and now realizing that it’s, at best, has its place. If your engagement was conditional on this putting real pressure on WWE, then you’ve probably lost interest. If you need logical stories or want to see stars built? Yeah, you’re not really getting that from AEW.

Agreed. Heel Christian has been fantastic. He'd been teasing his heel turn for a few weeks and I was delighted when they finally pulled the trigger.

Christian vs. Jungle Boy at All Out is gonna slap. Christian is just the perfect heel for Jungle Boy to work with.

One thing I've noticed about AEW is they seem to be repeating the same markets a lot. I understood it last summer and even fall when large portions of the country were leery about re-opening, but they've been back on the road for a year now and the whole country's open. And at this point, even in another COVID outbreak, I don't see New York, California, or anything else shutting down events or anything.

Tickets still sell quickly when they hit up new markets or ones they go to less frequently. Rochester feels like a place that can only do so well going there once a quarter. Even reading the Twitter threads when they do ticket announcements, tons of people asking AEW to come to places they've never been. Change it up.

Speaking of tickets, pumped to grab Grand Slam tickets again when they go on sale in a couple of weeks. Yeah the concession situation was a nightmare last year but A) didn't really affect me since I loaded up as soon as I got into the arena and had no reason to leave my seat except to piss the rest of the time, and B) the arena has indicated there will be a lot more staff and concession areas open this time.

Anyway, it was a fun experience so I'll be happy to do it again. Do kinda hope it's a regular Rampage though instead of a 2-hour one. 4 hours of televised wrestling is a long time to keep energy and I didn't get back to my hotel til like 2 AM.

Christian is a great person for Jungle Boy to work with, but is JB going to be able to hold up his end of the bargain in this thing?

… I kinda liked babyface Christian as a big fish in a small pond in WWECW. His work was fun to watch.

Time to find out.

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Well worth clicking this for the Matt Menard promo at the start of this video. That's a goddamn promo. Love Menard and Parker.

I’m glad they’re doing it. I’ve liked Jungle Boy in the ring in the past. I hope the personality and fire comes out of him though.

I think Jungle Boy will do fine against Christian, it's what they do after he wins the feud that's going to be important.

They are not usually good with follow-ups.

So, they have announced FTR vs Briscoes 2 for Death Before Dishonor.

Well, Weather Vane is up.

Role Model and Upstanding Person

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So he got fired without actually getting fired.

Ok, time for bed. Y’all have a good night and prepare for another day of existence

Could really do without all the fuckin’ curse words in this thread

Did they have a stroke while writing that?

Are they ok?

That’s a good start.

Lol, Omega’s been coming out with some crazy shit lately. He’s going around championing storytelling and suggesting that too many guys throw their bodies out there and go splat. He knows he’s talking about himself, right?

Omega’s thought this about himself forever. During his Omega/Okada series he was talking about bringing back the element of selling from classic wrestling that is missing today. He’s the least subtle guy on the planet.

Lmaooooo SRS reported yesterday I believe Cabana was set to be non renewed but a large contingent in the locker room stood up for him so he had stayed on even though he’s not been on or at TV in ages.

I’m betting they’re gonna use him a room once they figure out what they’re doing with ROH.

Poor xrod can’t keep punks name outta his mouth. It’s sad. Nowhere in what SRS reported or that Reddit post that was stated here did it even insinuate Punk had anything to do with it lol.

Truthfully Kenny's style of storytelling at it's best is basically live Anime. Not knocking it at all I think Anime is really cool and I wish I had more of a interest to watch it but yeah I think that's what the Kenny/Devitt/Kota generation really evolved to. Live action Anime. They had personal stories and always kept the storytelling elements wrestling palpable like injuries or revenge and betrayal, overcoming unwinnable challenges etc...

I think it’s the idiosyncrasy of Omega’s opinion of himself that really irks me. He’ll often say that other people DON’T have stories, or they AREN’T breathing those details into things. If he wants to be deluded and think his stuff is high art, that would be one thing — I’d disagree with it, but it’s one thing. It’s how he suggests that his stuff is so damn different to everyone else.

He championed the Omega/Page story. I’ve seen people try and do the same thing. It was a 3 year arc, whatever. If you enjoy it, then fine. But this story was so horrible that #1-aew-apologist started clapping at me because I dared to think they were going down that route. Of course, I was right, and people were seeing it from a mile away, but they had to get him off TV and bring him back for a random Ladder Match to get the title shot. That’s it. That’s the story.

Former tag champs. They split up. One guy wins the World Title. The other guy does comedy until he wins a Ladder Match and suddenly becomes champ. If you’re super into it, that’s cool. But don’t tell me that’s fucking Shakespeare.

You could pull the same bullshit with Brock and Roman. This goes back to 2015 when Roman won the Rumble and got booed, it got in his head, and then Heyman got in his corner and now Brock’s the one that’s mad, grrr. You could argue it goes back to Heyman managing the Samoan Swat Team right through to Brock beating Rock at SummerSlam. It’s a 7, 20, 30 year old story or whatever.

Why is his special or different? Even if you liked it. A lot of people saw it for exactly what it was, but even if you liked it, and you can link these things like Adam Page’s abject failure for months with growth or whatever — what makes those sorts of mental gymnastics unique? Because he seems to think that stories like Page winning the World Title are what’s missing.