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deathtrap 03-29-2005 06:04 AM

I thought Jardel was around 29. He was a big feller....around Jan Molby's weight.
Must've been a while back too if you were top of the Prem:D

Mr. Monday Morning 03-29-2005 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dazz
We all do, except Robert apparently.

Nah she is a bit of a bint init

Rob 03-29-2005 10:47 AM

I'd fuck her if she didn't touch the likes of Collymore and Ferdinand (and whatever other nasty footballers she's been with). But she has so I wouldn't. My current missus is better looking anyway. She could do with her tits though. I'm dead if she reads this.

yianni 03-29-2005 10:59 AM

http://www5.sbs.com.au/home/index.php3?id=56109


Greeks appeal for calm

Greece's Euro 2004 stars have appealed for calm and sportsmanlike support from their passionate fans as they prepare to host Albania in a World Cup qualifier in Athens on Wednesday.

Otto Rehaggel's men are in buoyant mood following Saturday's 3-1 win over Georgia in Tbilisi and the supporters are expecting revenge to be exacted on the Albanians following their poor 2-1 reversal to their neighbours in the corresponding fixture last September.

Greece is currently second in Group Two just three points behind leader Ukraine and will be hoping to pick up maximum points once again on home soil to boost its hopes of reaching Germany next year.

The fixture with Albania always stirs up patriotic fervour among both sets of fans with the proximity of the two countries and the fact that many Albanians have moved across the border to live in Greece.

Although there will be no Albanian fans inside the Giorgos Karaiskaki stadium following the AFA's decision to decline their 1,500 ticket allocation to stave off the threat of crowd trouble, a red-hot atmosphere is expected.

Striker Zizis Vryzas, a goalscorer against Georgia at the weekend, led the calls for the game to be played amid passionate but controlled support from the Greek fans.

"I expect a good atmosphere in the stadium without any extreme incidents," he said.

"If we should take up our role then the win will be ours."

Panathinaikos captain Angelos Basinas added: "The game with Albania will be difficult, but if we play as well as we did against Georgia we will take the three points.

"The attitude that has been shown by the fans up to now has been exceptional. We all want for them to warmly support the team on Wednesday and nothing else."

Defender Takis Fissas of Benfica was more cautious with his initial pre-match prediction.

He said: "Just because we won in Tbilisi does not mean that we will acquire the three points against Albania. Our team owes the fans a win, and the players will do their best to give joy to the fans.

"Overall I believe the Greek team will qualify, as we have a very good team and our performance becomes better with each game."

On the playing front, Rehhagel is likely to stick with the side which was so successful in fighting back from a goal down to overpower the Georgians, with Panathinaikos centre-back Giannis Goumas continuing to deputise for injured stopper Trainos Dellas.

Goumas is relishing the match but also called for calm among the fans.

"It is a difficult game and we have to win in order for our win against Georgia not to be for nothing. The fans have to be respectable and to show everyone that we are civilised."

Hans-Peter Briegel's Albania squad arrived in Athens on Monday and the German coach has played down his side's chances of repeating September's shock upset.

"Albania has come to just play football, since we have nothing to lose," he said.

"Any result apart from a defeat will be positive for us. In reference to the game we fear nothing. I cannot use some players because of their injuries and the team will look a little different from the previous games."

Doink 03-29-2005 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob
I'd fuck her if she didn't touch the likes of Collymore and Ferdinand (and whatever other nasty footballers she's been with). But she has so I wouldn't. My current missus is better looking anyway. She could do with her tits though. I'm dead if she reads this.

Post a pic of your wife so i can judge :shifty: bty krsty gallagher denies the collymore stories and if she's been bucking Ferdinand then that must give hope to other ugly people!

I wouldnt have Mclaren as England manager, he is a clueless twat who has worse tatics then sven. He has so far managed to get boro to 6th in the league, then saw we had some bad injuries with talented kids coming through.

What would you do:

a: give the kids a run they are quality and deserve a chance
b: sign some sort of back up in transfer window as although the kids are good, they are in experienced.
c: none of above

or

d: none of above, play the kids then drop them under the 'star name' hidden rule, even though the star name isnt fit and is no where near as good as the youngsters therefore causing us to go on a winning streak of erm 1 game since the turn of year and ruining any chance he have of european football next year.

ill give you a clue Mclaren didnt choice A, B or C!

He doesnt know when or how to use subs to either win a game,get a result from a game or kill a game off.

My vote is still big Sam, although not prolific look at the transformation in players like Davies, Diouf, Gardner, Hunt, Nolan. although not world beaters he has taken them from being players nobody wanted to pushing for a top 6 spot.

he seems to have the knack of motivatin players and i think he could get the best out of our players and have them playing as a team who could finally fulfil their potential!

El Capitano Gatisto 03-29-2005 01:14 PM

McClaren is a fucking crap manager, really. Very negative, spends a lot of money and Boro tend to go tits up every season when his boring arse team is found out for what it is.

Apparently he's a great coach, but great coaches don't make great managers in the English sense.

Also, Martin O'Neill got to the top of English football by playing a very robust game, relying on very big defenders and strikers, and a very physical game. Same at Celtic really. It's the only way for young managers who make their reputation in the English game to really do things now. It'd be pointless trying to play Arsenal or Manchester United at a passing game, they'd get slaughtered.

A good manager plays to his team's strengths. For a long time, Sven thought England's strength was lumping it up to Heskey. He has been blessed with Wayne Rooney, however.

Wengerland 03-29-2005 02:00 PM

I also wouldn't like McLaren to manage England, although he hasn't spent too much recently it'd be similiar to Bolton, as in the wage bill would be pretty big.

I'd love to see Martin O'Neill manage England but it probably wouldn't appeal to him. Although we had big Emile and big defenders when he was here we did play football, not just hoof it forward.

I reckon Peter Taylor, despite his failings here, would do a decent job for England, as he wouldn't be able to spend money, fuck knows where we could've been if Martin had stuck around and spent the £11m we got for Heskey but i'm certain it wouldn't be outside the premiership, but i'm digressing. Point is, Taylor can't spend money when in charge of England, has done a decent job everywhere else but Leicester (bar the first 6 months, then he sold Lennon) and would be a decent choice in my view.

packt up 03-29-2005 03:11 PM

All big Sam has done with Diouf is turn him from a talented scumbag spitting diving cockmaster who wasn't playing, into a talented scumbag spitting diving cockmaster who plays and occasionally gets sent off for being a moron.

Mr. Monday Morning 03-29-2005 04:49 PM

:love:

Nervous Ferret 03-29-2005 05:11 PM

Anybody catch the USA/Mexico footy game this past weekend?
I didn't. I was watching March Madness like a normal person, however there was aa rerun on at like 3AM on ESPN2, so I watched it, and it was the best footy game I ever watched. Too bad Mexico kicked our butts.


We are the most powerful country in the world!! But we're not going to qualify for the World Cup!

Good job guys :roll:

Nervous Ferret 03-29-2005 05:12 PM

Do you scousers still do the world cup? Or is that "not cool" Like Olympic baseball to us

Mr. Monday Morning 03-29-2005 05:25 PM

Ugh, give it up ferret. Just go spam some other thread up, please.

Nervous Ferret 03-29-2005 05:26 PM

qhat, I actually watched it, and now I want to discuss goddamnitt!

Team Sheep 03-29-2005 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nervous Ferret
qhat, I actually watched it, and now I want to discuss goddamnitt!

You've been a right cunt lately.

toxic rooster 03-29-2005 10:33 PM

Betting Ferret doesn't know what scouser means

Nervous Ferret 03-29-2005 10:40 PM

discuss the USA/Mexico footy game godammit! And why do we play Mexico every year? :mad: Arent there like 3857-3803-8028-95728 other countries in the world?

deathtrap 03-30-2005 04:46 AM

No.

Rob Ban Fan 03-30-2005 06:51 AM

<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I saw a bit of it. Seemed like that striker (Johnson?) was a bit lost.

Rafael Marquez is the man :cool:</font>

toxic rooster 03-30-2005 07:19 AM

Betting that's Ferret's credit card number or something

El Capitano Gatisto 03-30-2005 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MuzzE
I'd love to see Martin O'Neill manage England but it probably wouldn't appeal to him. Although we had big Emile and big defenders when he was here we did play football, not just hoof it forward.

.

Bolton don't just hoof it forward, either. They have some very skillful players in their side.

Wengerland 03-30-2005 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto
Bolton don't just hoof it forward, either. They have some very skillful players in their side.

They don't always hoof it forward, no, but they do it more often than not and definetly more than City under O'Neill, maybe not under Adams to be fair. The fact that they've got skillful players makes the way they play even more annoying though.

i'd give him a chance as England boss but i wouldn't want to see the same style of football as he has at Bolton, and i'd rather have Curbishley. I'll wait and see where Bolton finish this season anyway before i consider him to be a really good manager and whatnot.

El Capitano Gatisto 03-30-2005 08:24 AM

That's bullshit, they don't hoof it forward more than any other side. They get men into the box for set-pieces, but the idea they are a long ball team is a false one. They're certainly physical, but Kevin Davies isn't good enough in the air to play a long ball game.

It's a media stereotype. Try watching the games. Big Sam basically started the trend for 4-5-1 that is doing the rounds, except he is blessed with a very cultured holding player Campo, a brilliant play-maker in Okocha, and some very good wide players. They play with a lot of width and have Nolan getting into the box to support the front man.

Campo sits and patrols in front of the defence, while the full-backs have license to get forward. It's very similar to O'Neill's game at Leicester and Celtic. Big forwards to hold it up, a play-maker, a very defensive holding player, and two dedicated wide men.

Dazz 03-30-2005 12:18 PM

Surely we are not thinking of the same Campo. He has been fucking aweful since leaving Madrid. One of the worst players in the Premiership.

El Capitano Gatisto 03-30-2005 12:20 PM

You said Gilberto was one of the worst players in the Premiership too, Dazz. You have a blindspot when it comes to holding midfielders, unless it's Makalele.

Campo does his job very well.

Dazz 03-30-2005 12:28 PM

Does he fuck, he can't even hold the ball up. He just runs around waving an invisible card to the ref and whines if someone touches him. You just like him for what he did at Madrid, he has been extremely terrible for Bolton, even his tackling is weak.

El Capitano Gatisto 03-30-2005 12:34 PM

I didn't even see him at Madrid. He never got on. Plus, he was a centre back then. He's better in midfield than at the back.

Like I said, you described Gilberto as terrible. You can't pick out a decent holding midfielder to save your life.

Dazz 03-30-2005 12:40 PM

ONE MAKA ONE MAKA ONE MAKELELE
ONE MAKA ONE MAKA ONE MAKELELE
ONE MAKA ONE MAKA ONE MAKELELE
CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUDE MAKELELE

That's one, you cretin.

El Capitano Gatisto 03-30-2005 12:44 PM

Notice what I said a couple of posts up.

Dazz 03-30-2005 12:52 PM

Yes, you contradicted yourself, you cretin.

If he played as a proper holding midfielder then Paddy Vieira could do the job well, same with Graveson, , Scotty Parker has potential to be able to, as does Smertin, and if you want a holding midfielder of the future, Anthony Grant for sure, he plays in our youth team but has a fucking great challenge on him. Remember the name, Anthony Grant.

Trouble is not many teams play with what I'd call a proper holding midfield, rumour has it Maka gets a nose bleed if he enters to opponents half.

El Capitano Gatisto 03-30-2005 12:57 PM

I don't think any of those players have the discipline, really (aside from the lad I've never heard of). It requires a lot of it.

Stevie Gerrard looks half the player he is when he's asked to hold. No positional discipline.

Dazz 03-30-2005 01:03 PM

Thats whats great about Maka, he doesn't like to attack so he just stays back and chats up our defence. I think the only shot I recall him having is the one that Lemon spilled and Lampard scored the rebound when we beat Arsenal in the Champions League last season. Other then that the way he sticks to just being a holding player is superb.

But yeah I suppose if they had the discipline then their manager would play them there in some circumstances.

El Capitano Gatisto 03-30-2005 01:05 PM

Well there you go. Campo does that job well. He just sits there in front of his defence, sprays passes about, doesn't think about joining in attacks.

Also, Arsenal and Paddy V both look much better when they have a holding midfielder in there to sit and protect the defence. Emmanuel Petit and Gilberto.

Dazz 03-30-2005 01:12 PM

What your forgetting is that Petit is a girl, he asked Ranieri to sub him because he had a headache. Come on now, only girls get headaches.

Campo stays in position well, granted, but he doesn't possess any other quality for the position, he seriously isn't a good tackler, he isn't solid, he takes too long on the ball, and that fucking invisible card thing REALLY winds me up.

I think Vieira is too good attacking to play as a holding player, but if they had someone like Gerrard in their team, who can defend and attack well, then Vierira wouldn't have to push up. I reckon Chelsea look to create down the wings about as much as Arsenal just breakthrough the middle, and Vieira does some shit hot accurate passes. Point is, we all known Gilberto is rubbish.

Cactus Sid 03-30-2005 02:41 PM

Lawrenson and Motson are comedy gold....they are awful. Motson starting going on about how quiet it had got, and Lawrenson started whispering :lol:

I think I've found the slowest player I've ever seen.....Feeney for Northern Ireland, and he's only just come on.

Nervous Ferret 03-30-2005 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wee Gooner
Betting that's Ferret's credit card number or something

no sat on the keyboard. - comes right after 0. So comes natural I'd hit it

SammyG 03-30-2005 03:07 PM

Greece 1 Albania 0. I LOVE CHARISTEAS, ELLADARA!!!!!

packt up 03-30-2005 03:49 PM

Hella boring game. Wtf at Hansen saying Beckham and J Cole were the best players were they blind to Rooney? Owen couldn't have scored an empty net tonight oh well.

Overall boring as hell game and a way below average performance but hey we won.



And Dazz what's with your love of the word cretin all of a sudden?

Team Sheep 03-30-2005 03:54 PM

God Wales were unlucky. We should have won that game about 4-0, and we end up losing 1-0. Oh well, it's a young team and Toshack said himself that we may need to take a few steps back to take a few steps forward. Most of those players out there tonight were from the Championship and below. They will learn in time, Toshack's the man.

Wengerland 03-30-2005 04:01 PM

I tried to defend Owen for most of that game, mainly cause my dad was on his back at every opportunity, had to give up in the end cause some of the misses were just terrible. Another pretty good display though, just poor finishing.

El Capitano Gatisto 03-30-2005 04:10 PM

You could have said Owen has 29 international goals. Pretty good defence of him, no matter what he did tonight.


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