yea im watching CNN...they keep on saying its coming up but all they are talking about right now is the Oklahoma floods...Paris Hilton getting out of jail...and then everyone few minutes updating the Benoit situation

For anyone intrested in the UK, the Atlanta Police press confrence into the death, is on sky sports news, starting any minute now

OK, I can see that the murder of Nancy Benoit was pre-meditated, but maybe the murder of their little boy wasn't. Maybe in Benoit's mind, the boy was better off in heaven with him than left behind with no parents. Maybe Benoit really thought, in his sick mind, that taking the boy's life was an act of mercy. Isn't it possible that Benoit believed that?? Or, do you think he killed the kid just so there wouldn't be anyone to tell police what happened? Of course that's very possible too. What are your thoughts about that?

sweet the hot weather lady is back.

Yeah I know, it's bullshit. Meh, should start any minute now. I doubt we hear anything too bizarre. It's what we have heard probably.

Either A) They didn't know, or B) They're human, and he was a friend?

the weather girl is pretty hot.

yea you in the uk will get it the same time we do

So, yeah, the Fox News live feed has a continuous picture of the front gate...

For those who want to see it live go to www.yahoo.com, it's free and it seems to be working.

For FUCK's sake, start it already.

here we go

It's started, just now.

Yup. Strangled his wife, a day later strangled his kid, then saturday evening or sunday, hung himself in the basement.

Fuck, when did Benoit have a DUI?

He killed Nancy on a friday, and then Danial on saturday.... wow... He talked to people (using their timeline) after he killed his family.

I am in complete disbelief.

Holy "very little that we didn't already know," Batman.

That is one seriously tormented man, WHY CHRIS WHY

God I hate reporters.

I'm not. Fuck Chris Benoit. They found steroids too.

This is really f*ing bizarre, and how do they know HE killed them? Were his fingerprints found on his wife, etc?

A Bible found next to each body?

Nancy bound my her feet, blood next to her

Bibles? Shit, that's... wierd.

... This is disgusting, I just can't do this. I can't.

So fuck, he tied her up first and then strangled her. Fuck.

He has some serious issues.

what the fucking fuck Benoit. Fuck you Chris Benoit, you sick fuck.

Left Nancy's body downstairs in the family room........

Wait I don't get it, how could he get text someone Sunday if he was dead on Saturday?

Ridiculous.....fucking absurd, horrible.

That Bible shit is creeping me out. Enough of this shit. I can't believe I actually teared up during the tribute show. I shoulda refused to watch it.

Fuck you benoit. Fuck steroids.

Why is the bible "shit" creeping people out. It is interesting he would do that, but I don't blame him.

They said she was bound by her hands and feet. He must have really snapped.

He completely lost it.

Man you people are fucking nuts too, calm down, all you knew was a character, nobody knew the real Chris Benoit. The tragedy is not his it's the murder of his family, thank god he put himself out so we didn't have to deal with any b/s. Sorry if I am coming across bad but it's hard to speak on obviously.

I really wish WWE wouldn't have canceled Raw, that made them seem really weak, and now it turns out they canceled for a murderer, man that sucks.

Well obviously... But we still don't know why he killed his son.

And both Nancy and Daniel were both asphyxiated, right? Some people said earlier that she was strangled.

He did break Sabu's neck, that could have been a pre cursor to this past weekends events... Chris THE CRIPPLE KILLER Benoit

Is this the end of the WWE as we know it, even professional wrestling?

Shut up. They did the right thing by cancelling.

How the fuck can you harm your own son, let alone kill him? Thats what I can't get over.

wow, this is insane. like it isn't even real

Anything's possible when you're fucked up in the head.

Either Benoit was afraid that the son would turn him in, or he really believed the son was better off dead.

No

They had a couple hours to work with, and not the whole story. You want to force a bunch of guys that just heard THAT about a FRIEND of theirs to go out and perform? Fuck you.

I bet there is some sort of message in the bibles

Same thing in this instance

Would point out that not everything that has come out earlier has been correct, all that needs to be known so far is what was confirmed, nothing else and everyone should stick to that until more is uncovered.

Like, i dont know much about the whole 'roid rage' thing, but does it just cause all out insanity? I always thought it was like, 'temporary outburst' type of thing. Dunno, but i mean, killing his wife and child on two seperate days, and hanging around the house almost the whole time seems like straight up insanity than any sort of 'rage'

I don't understand... Was Nancy bounded then suffocated?

Do you work for the FBI?

Someone also said earlier that the text messages were sent during the ppv, and that's false.

Actually, did they confirm what the murder weapons were or if he did strangle them? I know one cause of death is Asphyxia by Strangulation, but I just read something about a cord and a bag, I missed the start of the press conference, so was that the cause?

Can someone get me the video of the press conference?

Press Conference Recap:

http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/pb....php?id=1/1786

All they would elaborate on is the asphyxiation. Nancy was bound by hands and feet and wrapped in a towel. Benoit hung himself with weight cord in his basement/gym.

Taken from pro wrestler boards

A press conference was held this afternoon to inform the media of the latest findings in the investigation of the deaths of Chris Benoit, his wife Nancy Benoit and their son Daniel. Here is information from the press conference, which was held outside of the Benoit home in Fayetteville, Georgia.

Sheriffs Lieutenant Tommy Pope spoke first.

- He discussed how authorities had received a phone call from WWE at 2:30pm yesterday out of concern when they couldn't get in touch with him. The police searched the Benoit home and discovered the three bodies. At this point, the autopsy has been completed and the investigators are ruling this a double homicide and suicide.

- Going by reports from the medical examiner, it is believed by investigators that Benoit asphyxiated his wife, possibly as early as Friday, then asphyxiated his son on Saturday. Both deaths are currently being ruled as death by asphyxiation. Then it is believed that late Saturday or early Sunday, Benoit hung himself. Pope stated that is was several hours, but no more than a day, between the time of Daniel's death and the time that Benoit hung himself. Toxicology reports are still being worked on, but that is the findings of the investigators at this time.

- There was no suicide note found in the home.

- Daniel Benoit was located in his bedroom, Nancy Benoit was located in an office area, both in the upstairs part of the house.

- Pope said they would not discuss any possible motives for Benoit's actions at this time. Pope also said that they were not able to determine his state of mind as a result of investigating the crime scene.

- When asked if Benoit had an arrest record, Pope noted he had been arrested once on an DUI, but in their jurisdiction they had no knowledge of any arrests or any record of domestic violence. He had no knowledge of any divorce filings.

- Pope stated that there was a lot of prescription medication, which they believe was all legally prescribed. He did not have a full list of drugs, but when pressed by the media, Pope stated that there was anabolic steroids. He noted that there was a prescription for them.

- Pope stated that Benoit did send a text message to a "co-worker" during the weekend, who received it several hours after it was sent. Pope would not disclose the contents of the message or who it was sent to.

District Attorney Scott Ballard then fielded questions from the media.

- Regarding a comment Ballard had made about the deaths being "bizarre", Ballard said that he felt the presumed timing of the deaths of the victims and the suicide was bizarre, as it would mean that Benoit was in the home for several hours with the dead bodies.

- There was a bible placed next to the body of Nancy and a bible next to the body of Daniel. There was no bible found in the room where Benoit hung himself.

- Nancy Benoit was bound around her feet and her wrists (Ballard seemed unsure about the wrists at first), and blood was found under her head. She was clothed, but wrapped in a towel in an office area in the upstairs part of the house.

- Daniel Benoit's body was found in his bed, he was clothed. His bedroom was also in the upstairs part of the home.

- Benoit's body was found in a weight room in the basement of the home. He had hung himself using the cable and pulley system on an exercise machine.

- Ballard reiterated that the autopsy reports indicate that Nancy Benoit was killed on Friday, Daniel Benoit on Saturday morning, and that it is believed Benoit died later Saturday, possibly Sunday.

- The subject of Benoit calling WWE this weekend and informing them that he had to miss the shows due to a family emergency was brought up. Ballard said was not aware of what Benoit claimed the family emergency was.

- Ballard said he had not seen the documents, but noted he had been informed of the order of protection that Nancy Benoit had filed for, but later asked to be rescinded several years ago.

- Ballard noted that toxicology reports will take time, but these are their conclusions to date.

- Ballard did not know if there were firearms in the house.

That ended the press conference, and it was noted that investigators were still at work in the Benoit house.

Were Nancy and Daniel strangled with bare hands? Maybe Benoit used the towel that was wrapped around Nancy? And maybe the bed sheets for the boy? Has any of that been addressed?

Sadly nobody is blessed enough to be able to see into the future

Asphyxiation is just a term for death through some sort of suffocation. Could be strangled, smothered, choke on a hot dog, etc...I wish they would have explained that a little clearer.

I wish they would hurry up and find out (or if they already know RELEASE) the information as to WHY this happened. All they know is it happened, but don't have any other real details.:-\

Thanks for explaining... they weren't, like you said, very clear about it.

And fuckin' steroids of course. The government is going to go on a witch hunt and ravage through professional wrestling. It won't kill it but it is going to set it back quite a bit. And WWE is going to have to be extra conservative and on their toes about everything which in the long run may be the death of wrestling. As much as rating are struggling now and have been for a while...imagine if it gets exponentially tamer and more bland than it already is.:(

I am so mentally brain fucked fight now that I dont know what to think...While part of me is pissed that such a thing could happen its just hard to get it through my head that a guy that Ive looked up to all this time could do such a thing...

The one thing I really want to know more than anything right now is 1. Which Co-Worker the Text message went to...(my guess is either Edge or Dean Malenko from the way they were acting last night)...and 2. What the text message said?

Does anyone know if any of that info will ever be released to tbe public.

And there is so many conflicting reports on the times...they announced in the press conferences this whole thing started Friday. Benoit missed a house show during the week, then allegedly contacted the WWE and said he would miss Vengeance. I don't get it. And supposedly he texted on Sunday but they say he likely died Saturday. They probably shouldn't have even had a press conference yet until they organized their information better.

Yeh I wish they would come forward with exactly when he sent the messages, who they were sent to, and what they said. I dont know if they will release them, they probably won't if there is any personal details.

I'm confused.

It's believed that Benoit killed himself either late Saturday or early Sunday. I thought he was backstage at the ppv Sunday night and went home because of a "family emergency." And what's this about missing a house show?

I'm sad that he is gone, angry he took his family with him, baffled as to why it all happened and seemingly without warning, and angry at him again for detail a destructive blow to professional wrestling.

He no-showed a house show earlier in the week. And from what I believe, he was never backstage at Vengeance, but contacted them saying he was going to be unable to make it due to personal reasons.

I think the people who ran the press conferences aren't straight on their times as it conflicts with the test messages being sent / Benoit calling in saying he wouldn't make the weekend shows which at the same time other sources say he never called and besides the text messages were the reason WWE called the cops.

What a cluster fuck.

Regardless the biggest rumor going around right now is the text messages were to Chavo.

You know, back in the day when I was way younger and obsessed with WCW and The Radicals left for the then WWF, I was like, "You guys suck, I hope you all die!"

2 out of 4 now, I didn't mean it though. :-(

Which brings up a good but off topic question, has anyone heard of Perry Saturn as of late?

The whole text message thing is as stated a bit of a clusterfuck.
What they are saying is he sent the text late saturday early sunday before he killed himself,it then took about 12 hours or so for the text to be received.
And then a further what say twelve hours for the cops to go to his home.

I've always prided myself in being able to seprate the performer from the man.

Hearing that people like Triple H, Shawn Michaels, and Hulk Hogan are assholes outside of the ring, but when they are in the arena I like them...

As of right now I don't know if I can seprate Chris Benoit the wrestler from Chris Benoit the man. That is such a horrible thing in and of it self.

Their is no doubt in my mind that Chris Benoit went insane, to kill your sevben year old son you've gotta be insane, or just cold blooded.

It'll be awhile before I can watch a match with Chris Benoit in it again and not look at it with disdane. I greieve for Benoit's family that died, and I grieve from Benoit's family that now have to live with the fact that they man that they knew and loved could do such a dispicable... It'll be a long time before I can grieve for Chris Benoit, if ever.

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And the Chavo rumour has been round all day (I think Meltzer reported it)</font>

Well there could of been the problem of not having a signal for a text message....

At my cousins house I have no signal...so any message that is sent to me while im there I dont get till im down the street.

If Benoit had no signal on his phone or perhaps the wrestler who he sent the message to didnt have a signal then he could of sent the message on Saturday but it wouldnt of been received till Sunday.

That solve the problem as to why the text was received after his death...

CNN Headline News is gonna have an update in a half hour.

As I see all the reports on the news now, I still just can't believe. Why. What the hell is wrong with him? This is just too much, even though I just want to know more.

There was obviously something very deep and troubling inside Chris Benoit. I think the losses of Owen and Eddie, among others, as well as the politics of the current state of WWE, and a seemingly troubled marriage, caused Benoit to snap.

We'll probably never know his real motive, unless he left some sort of message that surfaces later.

Right now I feel sorry for the people who were close to his family, and I grieve the loss of one of the best wrestlers of all time, and for this horrible tragedy.

No i understand that the recipient may not have had a signal to receive the text.
The point i was making was the timeline of it all.if any of the conjecture regarding the text message being recived during or before the ppv,why did wwe not inform the police sooner why did the police not go to his home till the next day.
Did people at wwe try to keep it in house for as long as possible.
I just find it strange as to why the big delay in receiving the text to them informing the police.

I think the test messages will tell why he did it or at least serve as suicide notes / last goodbyes.

My guess is Nancy was going to leave him and take Daniel or reveal something terrible/incriminating about him, so he killed her to stop that and didn't want his son growing up living with what happened or having the memories of possibly seeing it happen. Chris knew what he did would mentally fuck up his kid and decided that killing him would be more merciful.

The bibles sort of representing hopes they would go to a better place because they had one next to their bodies but Benoit didn't kid himself as to where he was going since there wasn't one next to him.

Guess this is why when we see wrestlers on TV they are always referred to as "characters" because in the world of wrestling no matter what you see, even for decades, up on the screen can be worlds away from who those people are off camera.

Damn it Benoit.

I really think him and his wife and been having big trouble recently, she was threatening to leave him and he decided to kill her. So he killed her and planned on disposing of her and getting away with it. I don't know if the kid found the body, or if Benoit just realized he was going to get caught. Either way, he gave up and killed the kid and then himself.

When I was showering tonight, that is exactly what I thought

i think it might have been roid rage, the da is on fox news now.

This is all really f'd up. Since all of this appears to be true, something must have suddenly happened to cause all of this. Like his wife was cheating, or something of that nature and all of it just built up and he exploded. It's even more odd that tv has said there was no suicide note, so whatever happened, he doesn't want anyone to know. What a difference 24 hours can make.

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So he killed himself in a no signal zone. Gotcha. It's a good thing that his cell phone was one of those oens that grows legs after you kill yourself.

Or maybe, Chavo was in a dead zone for...A full day? Neither makes sense, and the carrier would still have times. Not to mention, even if Chavo got them Sunday, they'd still say they were sent Saturday if he were in the dead zone.

All in all, the only way they could have been sent after he died is one that is exceeedingly unlikely.

In all my years on tpww I have always tried my hardest to form my own opinions on whatever matter no matter how serious or trivial.

However, at this time I feel the need for someone to tell me how to feel about Benoit.

This is sick, fucked up stuff but I don't agree with MB, i don't think it was palnned.

More that he attacked her in arage after she said she was leaving, he killed her, then realised what he'd done which sent him into a downward spiral.

He knew he's hav eto face the consequences and being a world reknown star this was not going to be easy. His guilt or fear of what was around the corner for him lead him to decide to commit suicide.

I cannot for the life of me understand why e would take the life of his 7 Year Old son. There are dozens of people who could have given Daniel a safe and secure upbringing. This is the point that makes me think he literally went nuts.

I thought for a moment there that maybe he'd killed Daniel firsta nd then when Nancy returned home to find what he had done (and wanted to go to the police) he snapped and tried to stop her, ending her life. That seems to make more sense to me (if not for the timeline we're being told)

I rambled more than I wanted to there. My main point is that I feel I need to be told how to feel about Benoit. So someone tell me, please.

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This is what people have been talking about all day, the failure of everyone to seperate Chris Benoit the man from Chris Benoit the performer. None of us knew Chris Benoit the man, all we know are the general consequences surrounding his death and the very little that we have been told by the select few people who knew him.

Chris Benoit the performer should rightly go down as one of the greatest wrestlers to step into the ring, Chris Benoit the man should rightly be seen as an evil fuck who killed his family.

I also have kind of a bad feeling that there is video footage of what happened. You would have to think that a house as big as Chris' had to have some security cameras in it. Unless he would have destroyed them, there is a chance there could be video footage.

I guess Jeritron gave me his answer before I even asked the question.

And at he moment that's the sentiment I'm leaning towards. :nono:

Big house don't mean cameras.

I just dont see a rage of frenzy or fury like that lasting the course of 2 or 3 days. Now if he killed them at the same time, then maybe. But he killed her first, his son the next day, and then himself the day after that or possibly later in the same day as he killed his son.

And I agree about the son, I can't fathom doing that. Now, I can see reasoning for it, but I can't agree to it or find any sort of justification in it. Maybe he didnt want his son living with these kind of tortured memories or whatever, but still. Thats not his fucking choice to make and by that time, what, was he going to redeem himself or something by killing his son to spare him from a life of turmoil?

I just wish they would come out with all the information ASAP so we can put this to rest and start moving forward.

Sorry, can't do that. You can keep watching Benoit matches and respecting him professionally, that's fine. I find it absurd. The man suffocated his 7 year old child after committing premeditated murder on his wife. He is a disgusting human being. The same human being standing in that ring. No interest in ever seeing him wrestle a match in a business thats supposed to be fun and entertaining. A peice of shit, that about sums it up. I don't care if he's performing, thats the same person. That would be a cold blooded murderer and a peice of trash that I have 0 respect for in any department.

You think I give a fuck how any murderer or reprehensible human does at their job? Freddy Kruegger, great janitor. Don't mean shit. It's just a shame he can't live to rot in a jail cell.

Still the question remains about the timeline.Im not harping on about this to defect from what happened,but there is a huge amount of time totally unaccounted for.
Another thing if like people are laying it out,he killed his wife then left it a day to kill his son what happened in the between time as the police said the house was not messed up in anyway to show signs of a struggle or signs of him going crazy over what he done.
It just seems to me that very important factors are being dismissed without a second thought.

It finally hit me watching the press conference. Reality finally hit. Chris Benoit may God have mercy on your soul.

That kind of falls under the improbable part. The liklihood that there was such a serious service drop long enough to postpone messages this long is unlikely. I have more faith in the walking cell phone theory.

Not if he had fuckin' Verizon. My text messaging hardly ever works.

Anyone else just not know what to say and are still in shock he did this?

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The following was posted on WWE.com just now:


STAMFORD, Conn., June 26, 2007 – World Wrestling Entertainment is stunned and saddened by the details released by local authorities concerning the double homicide-suicide involving Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and his son, Daniel.

However, WWE is concerned with the sensationalistic reporting and speculation being undertaken by some members of the media following the press conference held by the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department and the District Attorney. During the press conference, the investigating authorities made the following points, all of which run contrary to the media speculation that "roid rage" was a factor in the senseless murders and suicide:

1. The authorities stated that all drugs found in the house were believed to be legal prescriptions.

2. Steroids were not, and could not, be related to the cause of death (asphyxiation). Authorities had no factual basis to speculate as to Benoit’s state of mind, and rightly did not do so.

3. Toxicology tests have not even been completed, so there is no current evidence that Benoit even had steroids or any other substance in his body. In that regard, on the last test done on Benoit by WWE's independently administered drug testing program, done on April 10, 2007, Benoit tested negative.

4. The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage. The wife's feet and hands were bound and she was asphyxiated, not beaten to death. By the account of the authorities, there were substantial periods of time between the death of the wife and the death of the son, again suggesting deliberate thought, not rage. The presence of a Bible by each is also not an act of rage.

5. WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts, especially when the authorities plainly stated there is no evidence that Benoit had steroids in his body, pending the toxicological reports, and that they had no evidence at this time as to the motive for these acts.

WWE is continuing to monitor the ongoing investigation being conducted by local authorities.

Shit here's another conundrum.

I don't have Sky/cable at home and although I found a live feed on the net last night I couldn't stay up til 4 watching Raw as I have to go to work.

So I started a download from PWTorrents before I left for work. It's fully DL'd now but I can't work out in my own head if I should watch it given what I've found out since returning home.

This thing is so fucked up I'm asking a bunch of people I don't know whether I should watch a TV show. I'm 23 for fuck sake. And KK can take the piss all he likes but I'm having trouble getting my head around how to feel about the guy.

I think it's clear what WWE's stance on it is. They've pulled all referance to him from wwe.com, discontinued his sopzone stuff and event removed his name for the advertising blurb for WM20.

WWE is walking this like better than I ever thought they would. They are throwing Benoit under a bus, but it looks like the son of a bitch deserves it.